No. "Latin" does not equal Santana.

Ok, I've done a bit of research and concluded that Omar Rodriguez-Lopez = Santana +Prog.
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"Carlos Santana is a very versatile musician and his music is a highly successful blend of salsa, rock, blues and jazz fusion."
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"Carlos Santana's band has been swirling blues, Afro-Cuban Jazz, rock, Fusion, and Psychedelic guitar elements into his brand of Latin Rock since the 1960s."
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From Progarchives.com
Poll Question: Do you think Santana is a progressive band?Poll ChoiceVotesPoll StatisticsYes32 [31.37%]No70 [68.63%]

The Shadow Ring already invented it
http://www.myspace.com/theshadowring

^^I liked the first 2 Shadow Ring LPs, but haven't heard anything by them in donkey's years. I'll have a look at their myspace later on.

they've split up now, have you got their first LP?

I've been listening to Cajun and Zydeco for quite a few years now. A couple of years ago I bought a job lot ex-jukebox of Cajun 7" singles from a man in Louisiana.

Alas just about all of my Cajun records went when I sold all my vinyl.

La Valse de Kaplan by the Balfa Brothers never fails to bring a tear to my eye.

Way more original than the average band though.

i don't agree, they're just a math rock meets tortoise, their stuff sounds like it could have come out any time in the last 12 years

I had it, but sold it a couple of years ago, I'm afraid. I used to have their first single as well. I'll let you know if I can find anything by them on soulseek or whatever...

don't worry, i was just wondering if you still had it whether you'd sell it.

i have all their singles, and a few albums.

ha! was wondering when the battles slagging would start....

originality can not be predicted that is why when something blows up, like grunge (gah, wash my mouth.. horrible word) rock n roll, hip hop, punk, whatever the scene is.. it always makes an impact.. its effects are long lasting but the immediate actions are shortlived...... like a punch in the nose. it takes less than a second for the whole action to take place but it will hurt for days.......

fuck knows what will come next, but something will come next and it will be unique, original and get everyone excited for a while.. everyone here will rave on about it and then it becomes popular and no one will like it anymore because we are too cool for that shit......

battles may not be original but they are something that sounds interesting and they rock... thats a fact!

anywhay.. what do you relally want in originality.. everytime someone picks up a guitar or a drum stick.. its just repeating the same standard thing again... everything is imitation, everything is based on human memories... in fact new original music is likely to occour somewhere that hasnt heard or seen modern civilisation for generations... we have become too engrossed at being individuals to the point that we have become the polar opposite of that.. sheep to coin a phrase...

anyway i ramble on...

A lot of the punk that made an impact on the charts when it came out wasn't exactly as original as hip hop. Not that I'm saying that it is all crap, I really like The Buzzcocks, to name one, but I wouldn't say that they are a terribly original band. Originality is not the only thing that pushes music forward.

i wasn't slagging them off, i don't mind their music, it's not my cup of tea, but i don't object to them either, i was just stating that they aren't particularly original band at all.


i disagree, everyone here will only rave on about the next new thing if it's played by scruffy dudes and sounds like it could have been recorded any time between 1978 and 1996

no punk wasnt original.. punk was a young persons take on the rock n roll thing crossed with hillbilly but this was a fresh approach to it. the sex opistols are one of the mostt unoriginal bands ever but yet are classed as being original.. if you get my point.... personal tastes aside....

but then again was hip hop truly original or was it just another version of tribal beats from the african jungle.. rock n roll wasnt original.. it was old blues scales and shit beefed up a bit...

so what is original? what is original in todays sense????

hey toilet, that comment wasnt aimed at anyone.. its was a sweeping statement thats all...

In rock music alone, I like the way some bands are making records that sound fresh, take from the past, yet you can hear that more contemporay non-rock music is an influence on their records too. Battles are ok, they just sound like they try too hard and force the way they play their instruments onto themselves to my ears, it's just an opinion.

To name a few 21th century's band (I'm probably gonna be criticized because "they're not original", but I think they are: Animal Collective, Liars, Gang Gang Dance, Psychic Ills, Telepathe, Excepter, and a lot of things on Paw Tracks, The Social Registry, etc. Fuck Buttons for this year

I think we are going to have music made with programs that organically grow and learn and create their own music, either that or we will figure out a way to make music directly through a neural connection from our brains to a computer or other such device that will aloow for the sounds we make up nin our head to be transmitted or played through a speaker, there by blowing our collective minds.

Psychic Ills might not be original at all but I like them.

With the high price of gas I don't see it will be possible for people to tour so casually as they have. Especially if they are working people. I think there may be a new kind of regionalism, as bands are forced to stick around the homebase. you may think that you'll be able to hear anything thanks to the net but they have Internet 2 coming along soon and the built in "security" in that network may prohibit any music (digital file) that hasn't been vetted by some corporate authority like the RIAA. I believe now you upload your shit to myspace with just a clickbox agreement that you are the copyright owner but I2 may have built in structural "security" that would force users to have all those files approved. I don't know for sure, mostly what they say about I2 sounds to me like Vista, which means it will be SHIT FOR THE USER. And everyone WILL jump to I2 like lemmings because it will offer great video game quality.