so which one is that?

How about we start with NOT buying an Apple? That is the biggest threat, then we can move on from there. I am glad that you think you are so damned smart, but you have a phone and an iPod and a computer too, so what is your advice !@#hole?

Again, you think you are making me look stupid, and that may be to other stupid folks like yourself, but how do you explain your own absolute moral and ethical hypocrisy? After all, you own phones and computers too ;)

what brand is that?

We all are. But this is simply about an electronic device, regardless of where it comes from. We all hate these companies and their selfish acts, and you must understand that symbols man nor others(the only apple products I've owned are 2 iPods and now on my second iPhone after my first broke 2 years ago.) are fanboys of such a company. This is all just an objective view on technology. You can't help it if a company like apple creates a quality product.

severian, suchfriends recommends e.noisefield gets a campbell's phone

There are several quality products on the market, what Apple has done is successful marketing and branding, and there is a world of difference. !@#hole is the perfect example, on this very thread he has pointed out several of the harmful and exploitative practices of Apple, and yet, he also is defiantly PROMOTING these very same products?

What I recommend is you grow the fuck up. Do you talk to people you meet on the street this way too? I bet you get your fucking ass beat a lot then, maybe you pity yourself about it by lashing out on me on your mac ;)

campbell's it is

Chinese people are a population entirely living on the stuff, according to Suchfriends.

Yes, I may be showing my teeth in anger too much, but you straight provoked me! What is your beef lately exactly? Why do keep antagonizing anything I post? I didn't call you out on shit, in fact, I believe this whole dance got started by me lamenting my own griefs about owning an Apple product in the first place, and further, I feel I can express my opinions about the question, "Should we buy iPhones."


Did I ever mention you? Was I even necessarily responding to your posts in anyway at all? No. I was answering the thread question, "Should we buy iPhones."

Initially you were a bit more mature and interjected:


That is true, and I appreciated you adding some substance to the discussion, but then you just devolved into a personally driven tirade about my own integrity as a person? Lord have His mercy! What has any of that got to do with a discussion about Apple or electronics? Nothing. See, you didn't want to have a conversation, you wanted to shit talk. I wasn't shit talking, and I appreciate it more when you aren't then when you are just trolling around..



Obviously you think we should, obviously I think we shouldn't, why does it have to be so personal with you? All this bullshit lately is so ridiculous. I've greatly appreciated a lot of your rational insights, the way you seriously helped me out when I was navigating grad school, but this? This childish nonsense is ridiculous! Again, you badgered me first, and I should have had the sense to know you were just trolling, so it is my fault, but could you go back to the more reasonable !@#$%! from before? This contrarian phase you are going through is stupid. I expect crap from Genteel Death, he is just a cockney version of AmerikanGod, a troll with a sense of Victorian manners, you on the other hand, used to rely on substance rather then emotionally aggravating hyperbole and straw man bickering..

LOL, you have to stop smoking so much pot.

:fuckyou:

People who buy Apple products should read this.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=chinese%20factory%20workers%20app le&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCMQqQIwAA&url=htt p%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fbusiness%2Ffeedarti cle%2F10453902&ei=WyljUIm-NIWZ0QWZtYDYBQ&usg=AFQjCNHBwmcMEf3RzAmpFaSWYtjWtvL mtA

Goddammit. I honestly wish E. and I read this thread in its entirety before yesterday, when we walked into our carrier's store intent on purchasing 2 iphone4s's for $99/each, and walked out an hour later with two 5's on backorder, minus $400, with nothing in our hands but a pair of receipts.

I'm still not sure what happened in the interim.

lololol

so who is your carrier? at&t? verizoff? ess-print?

ps- the difference amounts to $4.17 per phone per month over the next 2 years. likely it's well worth the difference.

pps- i you really wanted a 4S i'd have said get on vergina mobile but if you're w/ a regular carrier the 5 might serve you better esp. if you need a "portable office".

ppps - having said that, walking out with just a piece of paper in your hand is rather petarded i'm afraid... :(

(okay, yes, i laughed, but i'm still sad about your weird deal)

and the rest of the people should read this:

samsung:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...roup-says.html


http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/06/samsun...inese-factory/

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/329...age-employment

AT&T + Motorola: http://www.globallabourrights.org/alerts?id=0387

LG: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=LG

nokia: http://www.inquisitr.com/221109/noki...10000-workers/

etc., etc.

people like to single out apple because of its sucess, and saying "workers in emerging economies work harder under more difficult conditions for less pay, and capitalist enterprises take advantage of this, including the electronic component industry" doesn't sound so sexy, though it's more accurate than brand-target propaganda


i'm "defying" who? you???

I tried to be compromising, even border on apologetic and appreciative, like I said you've actually done a lot of good in my life in the past EIGHT years I've known you. But if you want beef, as we say in the hood, "It is what it is." I say fuck it then, whatever you want silly Apple brainwashed, American brainwashed, childish, increasingly bitter yet won't realize it jerk ;)

I thought we could have an honest olive branch moment, I really was trying, remember you provoked me by your comments, I was never even TALKING to you initially about Apple, but again, it is what is homie

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