Bus station says no.NO.

When I was a kid and "political music" inspired me (unlike now, when all it inspires me to do is mourn the fact that I cannot simultaneously vomit and offer up a scathing critique on the cartoonish hilarity of musicians who want to "change the world" via song), I can assure you that whether or not the singer "meant it, man" was extremely important to me.

I never got into them, which is weird because I used to like Blink-182 when I was 15. The only songs of theirs I've ever heard are ones off American Idiot because that album was advertised so much. I just don't like how they keep calling themselves punks to look cool.

I happen to think that most people who do political music really, genuinely mean it. This runs from u2 down to Chumbawumba or Crass. They all mean it, man. You can criticise the politics, but 'authenticity' is a piss-awful criterion for doing so.

For the record, I have an awful lot of Billy Bragg records.

I used to have some Billy Bragg records. In high school.
Sincerity is not an issue there, but I have no stomach for it anymore.

He's among my favourite singers who can't sing.

I used to sit to 'Levis' tears 'or whatever it is called with my sister and think it was cool.I think both him and...................you get the drift.

You have bad taste,young man.Just,sometimes.

I can't stand them.
Oh, and the Billy whatever the fuck his name is is soooo not hot.

It's funny when you see throughout the board people mentioning bands and/or artists that are just downright shit, and then in another thread they bag out a band who they don't happen to like, like they totally forgot they like shit music themselves. Porkmarras.

I hate them, It's like a vain attempt to be robert smith, this guy.

when i listen to their albums , i feel bored
don't like them and those kind of bands

That's important though, isn't it? I know a lot of things I really like aren't 'cool', I know some of it isn't actually that good (Gene), but I can't help enjoying some things. I'm a slave to my emotional responses, not to my ration. I would rather be that way than any other, and I'm pretty sure you're much the same.

I'd just liek to toss my two cents out there as I used to be a big GD fan... i actually saw them on their american idiot tour (hey, everyone's gotta have that one big arena rock show, right?), which was about my last bout of enjoying them. I gave all their cds to my lil bro because i got into them around middle school, about the time warning came out.. and I really liked the cd, it being on eof my first and not knowing how badly they copped off 'picturebook' for the title track. I gave my bro these cds a good long while ago and don't think I've listened to any of them in a couple of years... i remember trying and failing.

I'd also like to say I've considered a fairly punk-persona-person :: Around the same time I ws listening to green day I was also buying dead kennedys, black flag, ramones, clash, nofx(a touch of more recent bands-but also childish and appealing to a high schooler), etc. And while I eventually figured GD were pretty damn commercial at times, and by american idiot were being marketed in such a way to appeal to all that good charollette shit ("You've heard good charollette rock the punx! Now watch the masters take control -complete with black eye liner-) and I thought it was thoroughly lame. But that crappy costume scheme aside I could still enjoy american idiot. By this time I think was a junior or senior- I'd come along way from finding a tape of dookie in an old tape player in the 7th grade and still got my kicks. But I'd soon capsize into either some kind of elitist cunt or just got bored- i think it was both. SOon bands like green day and weezer (whom i loved a lot) just didn't do it for me anymore- i took to sonic youth and the velvet underground, and such. It wasn;t that I no longer deemed GD cool, it just got broing after so many countless listenes.

In recent times I've been rekindling love for music that I had pushed away at younger days. LIke led zeppelin and such who'd i'd gotten tire dof and thought were overrated (still maybe, but good). I also fell out of punk at one point and sold a lot of cds (how i let myself get rid of fresh fruit for rotting vegetables still bothers me) and it's by far one of the most exhilirating things to still be able to enjoy my own little slice of anti-establishment-- even if i am some suburban white-kid pacifist who's never been to too many actual punk shows and has a deep seeded love for 5 minte guitar solos and jazz. HEy, who says you have to listen to punk (solely) to be a punk? I don't. Can you be a punk and listen to green day? Yea, just don't go out of your way to let anyone know.

theyve never been anything other than a massive pop group to me, and i think they did it very very well on Dookie which i still enjoy giving a spin on occasion. American Idiot is a nice effort, a few really really great singles from that album. So theyve not changed in my eyes, i still see them as some nice harmless tuneful mindless pop rock music. And thats no bad thing.

Green Day's American Idiot stole the story of HUsker Du's Zen Arcade. Compare the lyrics and you'll see that the story is basically the same.

I agree the first 4 kick ass all the rest sucked

They are just great. Haters keep on hating. Your cred is safe.

Prime example of Porkmarras' thesis in the "Rather Ripped ROCKS! thread" being accurate.