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SynthethicalY 07.27.2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
"OH and I buy more music than you could probably ever DREAM of! I can't even fit it into the house anymore I have so much of it."

Sounds like you're a spoiled brat with rich parents who is just whining because you didn't get your way when your favorite shitty rock group played a few minutes less than you wanted them to.



Wow finally a post I read about you that makes me laugh, well most post by you make me laugh. But this one is hilarious.

persona non grata 07.27.2007 01:38 PM

maybe there was a reasonable explanation why they played a shorter set that night?

perhaps the drummer couldn't handle playing the same beat for every song.

baby bulldog 07.27.2007 01:55 PM

This board is frickin' hopeless......

SynthethicalY 07.27.2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by baby bulldog
This board is frickin' hopeless......


The board is full with people who have hopeless views.

atsonicpark 07.27.2007 03:59 PM

yeah, i don't see why they don't just get a shitty little kid's drum machine to play meg's parts anyway. i guess it's just cuz she has big ugly boobs.

Rob Instigator 07.27.2007 04:16 PM

she plays what jack asks her to play. do not denigrate megtittieswhite because of it! he has stated many times, and she has corroborated, that he specifically asks her to play simpl;e beats the better to wail his massive guitar sound upon the world.

atari 2600 07.27.2007 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
like I said before, bruce springsteen and the E street band play 3-4 huor shows REGULARLY.

a great long show can change your life!


There are three groups whose full shows often require three discs to burn:
Bruce Springsteen & The E. Street Band, Grateful Dead, and Led Zeppelin.

atsonicpark 07.27.2007 06:15 PM

regardless, do you think that ol' flabbytits could actually drum a complex drum beat? i wonder.

Pookie 07.27.2007 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
regardless, do you think that ol' flabbytits could actually drum a complex drum beat? i wonder.


I was about to accuse you of being a nerdy, woman-hating twat. And then, as if you can hear my thoughts, you start a thread about rpg's.

atari 2600 07.27.2007 06:33 PM

She ain't no Moe, that's for sho.

(sure)

Yeah, rpgs
ha.

atsonicpark 07.27.2007 06:37 PM

yeah man I sure am woman hating nerdy twat for liking to play video games where you have to read a little bit of text!!! oh man!!! i TOTALLY confirmed your suspicious!!!

seriously, stop being asinine. if i played games where i shot people and blew 'em up all day, i could be "just one of the good ol' boys"!? "man, he likes SHOOTING GAMES, i guess i can't accuse him of women-hating now!!!" that makes no sense. wait a sec, i like sports games afterall... so, i'm not a misogynist at all now!!! oh shit!

seriously, what you said makes no sense. and i KNOW what you're saying, i'm smart enough.. no, NERDY enough, apparently... to "get" what you're saying, but it still actually makes absolutely no sense. that's like saying, "Man, I love to read." And you go, "SEE? YOU'RE A WOMAN HATING NERDY TWAT CUZ YOU LIKE TO READ!!!!!!!!" Or if I go, "man, I love movies." And you go, "SEE? YOU'RE A WOMAN HATING NERDY TWAT CUZ YOU LIKE TO WATCH MOVIES!!!!!!!!!"

What you say just has no basis or argument to back it up... seriously, what does liking rpg's have to do with my thoughts on meg white? and, actually, what does women hating have to do with meg white? etc. I can hate a woman without being WOMEN-HATING. in fact, a few weeks ago, i defended women and said how women have it much worse than dudes do. but no, i'm just a woman hater because i don't like ol' no-talent flabbytits! see, that's the thing: I hate the white stripes. I don't like Jack or Meg. neither one. So, am I man-hating too?

Pookie 07.27.2007 06:39 PM

You used completely unnecessary insults about her physical appearance when talking about Meg White's drum playing. Why?

fugazifan 07.27.2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
There are three groups whose full shows often require three discs to burn:
Bruce Springsteen & The E. Street Band, Grateful Dead, and Led Zeppelin.

and pearl jam
i once saw them play for three and a half hours...

Pookie 07.27.2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
You used completely unnecessary insults about her physical appearance when talking about Meg White's drum playing. Why?


And did it again in your edited post. Again: why?

atsonicpark 07.27.2007 06:47 PM

I don't like her PERIOD. So, I was being insulting, period. When people go "MAN THAT IDIOT MONKEY MAN GEORGE BUSH SURE DID FUCK UP BLAH BLAH BLAH" people don't stop and go "why you callin' him monkey man?" He looks like a fucking monkey! Sure, you don't necassarily HAVE TO say he's "monkey man" in order to get your point across, just like I don't have to call her ol' flabbytits, but .. well .. why not? What's the difference?

But anyway, I already discussed this many threads ago... me saying I find meg white ugly is the same as people saying meg white is hot... and there are threads wherein people discuss her big "hawt" boobs and her "beautiful" face. Well, I disagree. And maybe this thread didn't need me to say that, but you know, it was one throwaway word ("flabbytits") that I thought no one would give two shits about... but I guess I was wrong.

Pookie 07.27.2007 06:54 PM

It's the fact that you were talking about her drumming, and so physical appearance shouldn't (although apparently does to you) enter into it.

Your hatred of a woman you don't know (correct me if I'm wrong) is strange.

The "throwaway" insult was used three times, incidentally. You have issues here I feel.

ThePits 07.27.2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Concrete Abutments
Safety? How do you mean safety? The goons in that place were probably ready to eject that idiot they were so hardcore. And I know this thread is getting too long to read the whole thing, but I DID post a link to Rolling Stone where they reported that Jack and Meg cut out early because he backed into a microphone stand and was injured. That is allegedly the real story but NOBODY said anything at the damn show.

OH and I buy more music than you could probably ever DREAM of! I can't even fit it into the house anymore I have so much of it. So a few White Stripes burns 'til I figure out whether I need to own them or not doesn't bother me and shouldn't bother them either. I ALWAYS buy whatever is worth owning.


So now you are saying they cut the show short because one of them was injured?

How selfish of them!

Nice to see your take on intellectual property theft too

You sound just the sort of fan bands would love to have

Not

atsonicpark 07.27.2007 10:07 PM

Nah, I don't have "issues"... I just don't like her.... But fair enough.

Concrete Abutments 07.27.2007 11:58 PM

Hey Adam! That is your name right? I'm in my 40's and I KNOW I have more life experience under my belt than any of the snotty, stupid kids on this friggin' board. Spoiled kid with rich parents sounds more like 90% of the jerks that post here and use this board for BS instead of real information. Which would explain a LOT since several postings express a complete disregard for forking over $50 for barely a full concert.

I've been collecting music since before you were born! And I know a LOT more about the industry and how it's turned into more of a corporate scam over the course of my life. Getting screwed at a White Stripes show is about much more than Jack and Meg deciding they just couldn't finish the show.

A lot of you kids are NOT getting it and that's REALLY scary!

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
"OH and I buy more music than you could probably ever DREAM of! I can't even fit it into the house anymore I have so much of it."

Sounds like you're a spoiled brat with rich parents who is just whining because you didn't get your way when your favorite shitty rock group played a few minutes less than you wanted them to.


Norma J 07.28.2007 12:14 AM

I hope when I'm in my 40s I can get over things alot easier than you seem to.

But I'm not jumping on the bash CA bandwagon. you have your reasons for being pissed, I just don't see them that way.

sonicl 07.28.2007 12:36 AM

I'm in my 40s, and the number of times I've seen bands play shows that I wasn't impressed with is countless, but I've always taken it as being part of life. "Rock 'n' roll" isn't about value for money, it's about the moment.

Concrete Abutments 07.28.2007 12:39 AM

Norma! I'm pretty much done with the White Stripes show angst. I just thought it was a good time to let out some more steam as far as this board goes. It's nothing but absolute BULLSHIT most of the time which is why I stay away. I'm not here that often.

Starting this thread was sort of a test. The board failed. I am amazed at how much bashing and name calling and utter stupidity is on here. I expected a community of music minded people (apparently most of the ones with brains aren't here like myself) to look at my story and most of you to come back with replies like "WOW yeah that is a short set. Fifty bucks is a little much for under an hour and a half." Or maybe something like; "I guess it could've been a bit longer considering they had never played in Connecticut before and this was a lot of the audience's first time seeing them." Or possibly; "It's good that you finally got to see them at all, but YEAH under 90 minutes is somewhat under par for the price of a concert ticket now." Or even; "WOW I'm envious that you were even in the same room as them! I wouldn't complain but it is your money."

Instead all I read was bashing and name calling. Pitiful.

OH and when you hit 40, you just get so SICK of getting ripped off at every turn in your life, from a gallon of milk to the electric bill, that you either snap every once in awhile or go INSANE! Especially when you know the raised price is just giving some CEO another downpayment on his next SUV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
I hope when I'm in my 40s I can get over things alot easier than you seem to.

But I'm not jumping on the bash CA bandwagon. you have your reasons for being pissed, I just don't see them that way.


Concrete Abutments 07.28.2007 12:51 AM

Yeah absolutely Sonicl! It's ALL about the moment! I'm totally with you on that. An intangible high of emotion that's yanked out of you by the art. I'm addicted to it always looking for the next rush or I wouldn't go to shows or buy music at all! And you don't always get that "moment" either!

But the getting bilked part is explained in my response to Norma. I'm always on the alert for it. Can't help it. I don't have money to burn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
I'm in my 40s, and the number of times I've seen bands play shows that I wasn't impressed with is countless, but I've always taken it as being part of life. "Rock 'n' roll" isn't about value for money, it's about the moment.


sonicl 07.28.2007 12:58 AM

To be honest, if it's intelligent discourse you want, you're in the wrong place, not because we can't have it but because this isn't where we come to do so.

Norma J 07.28.2007 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Concrete Abutments
Norma! I'm pretty much done with the White Stripes show angst. I just thought it was a good time to let out some more steam as far as this board goes. It's nothing but absolute BULLSHIT most of the time which is why I stay away. I'm not here that often.

Starting this thread was sort of a test. The board failed. I am amazed at how much bashing and name calling and utter stupidity is on here. I expected a community of music minded people (apparently most of the ones with brains aren't here like myself) to look at my story and most of you to come back with replies like "WOW yeah that is a short set. Fifty bucks is a little much for under an hour and a half." Or maybe something like; "I guess it could've been a bit longer considering they had never played in Connecticut before and this was a lot of the audience's first time seeing them." Or possibly; "It's good that you finally got to see them at all, but YEAH under 90 minutes is somewhat under par for the price of a concert ticket now." Or even; "WOW I'm envious that you were even in the same room as them! I wouldn't complain but it is your money."

Instead all I read was bashing and name calling. Pitiful.

OH and when you hit 40, you just get so SICK of getting ripped off at every turn in your life, from a gallon of milk to the electric bill, that you either snap every once in awhile or go INSANE! Especially when you know the raised price is just giving some CEO another downpayment on his next SUV.


Fair enough.

Unfortunately I've hit that "fuck this" wall and I'm only 24. I truely believe the statement "It's all downhill from 21". Sounds negative but I try to look up. I got pissed off during a game of Monopoly the other night, haha, because I couldn't catch a break. Sounds funny and I laugh at it too, but it seems like life is one big Monopoly game. I dread to think of what I'll be like at 40. I'd like to think I'll have found a way of accepting it by then though.

As for the thread, I didn't give you shit.
But to me, $50 seems fair for an hour show - fair for a name such as the White Stripes anyway. We'd pay like $80 for them here, and then I'd have to travel a few hours as they wouldn't come to my town. Although I wouldn't pay $50 for them guys, even though I own a few of their records and think they're pretty cool.

fishmonkey 07.28.2007 05:52 AM

i saw the Stripes live twice. i could never boycott them. they are fuckin class live. that Jack lad is a genius on the geetar

SonicSam 07.28.2007 06:04 AM

Wah wah only 70 minutes. Most of the gigs I go to you'll be lucky if the main band playes for 35 minutes. I'd be bored as shit watching the white stripes for 2 hours. Or any band really.

ScreamingSchool 07.28.2007 08:22 AM

I'm not sure if everyone's angle here is to bash the starter of this thread, although I also havent read through all six pages. I think the overall vibe here is that to tell music fans to straight up BOYCOTT the White Stripes is a little harsh for something that is a VERY common event in rock and roll: The short set. And as others have said, by today's standards 70 mins is safely outside the parameters of what a short set is. I'd say 45 mins or less. As for the shoe thing, I see it like this: A band is a service employee just like a waiter is. If you treat a waiter like shit, do you think they are going to keep the refills comin' at lighting speed? How about you leave them a shitty tip then come back the next day? Same thing with a show. Somebody throws a shoe at the band then that person has violated the server-servee code. They are now no longer obligated to encore or go that extra mile. I mean, they weren't in the first place, but you know what I mean.
Now I agree, if you are just blowing off some steam after a frustration then of course you'll be speaking in absolutes and be like "Boycott this band" and say that you were ripped off and such, but on a public forum like this you GOTTA expect people to see that as one-sided, and then reply with equally one-sided responses in order to kind of even out the absolute statements you made. I think it was the wording that seemed extreme and was therefore met with extreme responses. But yeah I'm like hardly on this site either but I do enjoy alot of the discourse. I've had some of my posts called 'rubbish' and such but it's no big deal. You know what they say about opinions and assholes.

soapbars 07.28.2007 09:01 AM

well $50 is just less than 25 GBP,

which id pay for entry to venue/travel/1 or 2 drinks for me and the lady, to see a small unheard of band play for 30 minutes and i wouldnt winge,

the really issue here is you wasted money on the shite wipes

atsonicpark 07.28.2007 11:32 AM

You're in your 40's?

My dad is in his 40's...

And if my dad was complaining about something so stupid as this, I'd punch him in his balls while he was boning my fat mom.

drrrtyboots 07.28.2007 11:55 AM

I sense angst in you astonic.

atsonicpark 07.28.2007 12:22 PM

nah, i'm not angst-filled.

i'm actually a really nice person. i've only been in one actual fist fight, and i didn't start it, though i won, which is ridiculous, since i'm 5'2 118 lbs and he was probably 5'4 and he worked out. but yeah. i actually won my only fight. not that i wanted to fight. i'm somewhat of a pacifist. and everyone around here likes me and thinks i'm really cool, which is why i kind of hide from people, because i hate being well-liked by methed out idiots.

...

but yeah. no angst for me!

Pax Americana 07.28.2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Concrete Abutments
Yup K-Krack I see your point. I don't blame Jack and/or Meg for getting pissed about it. HOWEVER, the BIGGER person would realize that there ARE 15,599 other people waiting for them to return. And they can't slip out on this one because most people KNOW they habitually play longer.

I mean come on; Jack didn't even acknowledge the fact that the shoe pissed him off. SAY SOMETHING TO THE FUCKING CROWD! Have some balls and stay in good graces with everybody else that's there enjoying themselves. We'll back you up and lynch the fucker that threw it if you open your mouth!

Look, they can do whatever they want obviously, but when you're as big as they are or bigger you're basically running a business. You piss off the customers and you're shooting yourself in the foot!

I can't WAIT to see what the newspaper is going to say about this tomorrow.


SOMETIMES i LIKE to CAPITALIZE totally random WORDS that i PLACE in SENETENCES! Seriously THOUGH, i DON'T care at all ABOUT the white STRIPES gig, but THESE kinds of POSTS are JUST really annoying TO read.

atsonicpark 07.28.2007 06:18 PM

hahahha.,

rep'd.

ThePits 07.28.2007 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Concrete Abutments
Hey Adam! That is your name right? I'm in my 40's and I KNOW I have more life experience under my belt than any of the snotty, stupid kids on this friggin' board. Spoiled kid with rich parents sounds more like 90% of the jerks that post here and use this board for BS instead of real information. Which would explain a LOT since several postings express a complete disregard for forking over $50 for barely a full concert.

I've been collecting music since before you were born! And I know a LOT more about the industry and how it's turned into more of a corporate scam over the course of my life. Getting screwed at a White Stripes show is about much more than Jack and Meg deciding they just couldn't finish the show.

A lot of you kids are NOT getting it and that's REALLY scary!


Just to make a few salient points clear

I am in my 40's

I come from a working class background and didnt have rich parents

I have worked in the music industry for 24 years

I am involved in 2 - 300 shows per year not including major and minor festivals

Guess that means I aint a kid and might, just might, know a little about live music and the music industry

You didnt get ripped off by the White Stripes, on one of your own posts you state the reason given for the shortened set was an injury

If you feel that agrieved, look up the bands agent or management in the White Book and complain

As you are in your 40's I am kind of disturbed by the fact that because you started this thread and received dissenting opinions you dismiss the whole board as "bullshit" and "apparently most of the ones with brains aren't here like myself"

Why start a thread if you simply want to dismiss or belittle any opinion that differs from what you want to hear?

Wouldnt you be better off simply unplugging your computer and sitting there talking to yourself?

More to the point, isnt it time to get over it and move on?

SynthethicalY 07.29.2007 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePits
Just to make a few salient points clear

I am in my 40's

I come from a working class background and didnt have rich parents

I have worked in the music industry for 24 years

I am involved in 2 - 300 shows per year not including major and minor festivals

Guess that means I aint a kid and might, just might, know a little about live music and the music industry

You didnt get ripped off by the White Stripes, on one of your own posts you state the reason given for the shortened set was an injury

If you feel that agrieved, look up the bands agent or management in the White Book and complain

As you are in your 40's I am kind of disturbed by the fact that because you started this thread and received dissenting opinions you dismiss the whole board as "bullshit" and "apparently most of the ones with brains aren't here like myself"

Why start a thread if you simply want to dismiss or belittle any opinion that differs from what you want to hear?

Wouldnt you be better off simply unplugging your computer and sitting there talking to yourself?

More to the point, isnt it time to get over it and move on?


That needed repped.

sonicl 07.29.2007 02:27 AM

The guy seems to have deserted us as a punishment for our failing is test. Which is a shame, as I saw Scissor Sisters last night and they were excellent, AND they played over ninety minutes. I was going to recommend that he goes to see them next time. They were probably a damn sight more fun than Jack 'n' Meg too.

There a bright stage light that shone in my eyes sometimes though, which spoiled my enjyment a little bit, and I did wonder about asking you all to boycott Scssor Sisters because of that. But, hey, they's the breaks.

SynthethicalY 07.29.2007 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
The guy seems to have deserted us as a punishment for our failing is test. Which is a shame, as I saw Scissor Sisters last night and they were excellent, AND they played over ninety minutes. I was going to recommend that he goes to see them next time. They were probably a damn sight more fun than Jack 'n' Meg too.

There a bright stage light that shone in my eyes sometimes though, which spoiled my enjyment a little bit, and I did wonder about asking you all to boycott Scssor Sisters because of that. But, hey, they's the breaks.


Yeah we should boycott them, it will make us smart, according to this dimwit.

sonicl 07.29.2007 02:38 AM

So it's the expeiences we don't have that make us smart? Shit, I could be so much more intelligent if I hadn't spent all that time at school!

Norma J 07.29.2007 02:39 AM

Hey now, come on. Let's not start a shit fight. Put down and step away from the shit people.


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