I'm glad that you can feel good about your weight despite the criticism you've received.

Personally, I dropped nearly 20 pounds when I was at school in Chicago, and at first I felt good about losing a few pounds because I figured it was because I was eating healthier foods (which I was) and getting more exercise (which I was). But when it got to the point where I went to donate blood, and passed out for the first time ever doing so (I was standing up and fell back, hittting my head on the floor), only to discover that my weight was even less than I thought it was and that I should not have been giving blood in the first place, it made me feel like I wasn't even in my own body. I felt like I was in someone else's body, and it didn't feel good. So yes, while there is something to be said for being healthy and yadda yadda, if you aren't enjoying the results of those efforts, what's the point? I've since gotten back to my normal weight and I'm feeling much better (even though I know I'm not eating as well as I had been for those few months, my mental health, I believe, has improved). "Healthy" isn't only about the body. And I realize that eating healthy foods can help to improve your mental state, but not if you are a person like me who tends to feel out of sorts whenever they can't recognize their own body.

which ones? carlin is fucking funny. he may be wrong, but he's funny.

Perhaps, but if one eats well, exercises on a somewhat regular basis and doesn't shoot smakck, their body will reflect it, and the opposite is true also.
I agree you can't tell if someone is healthy by looking at them at least I can't and that isn't the point.The point is starving yourself and shoveling crap food into your body will harm, hurt and possibly kill you. And for what? On one hand looks, a job? On the other, self gratification? BOTH sides of the spectrum are wrong. if people try to be healthy with their bodies, their bodies will reflect it. Of course, some will be naturally skinnier than others and vice versa. Again a big factor is the media, its useless to negate its influence but some people really need to stop buying to everything that is presented to them.

ARGH!

I agree with this.

It's socially acceptable to make degrading comments on how skinny someone is, even if they're far from emaciated, but if you make a comment about someone overweight, then you're 'rude', and descrimitive.

again this is true, but -for example- how many women aren't hired for a job because they're too thin vs. too fat?

there was a comment made about women on magazine covers being criticized because they're too thin... well there certainly aren't any fat women on the covers to begin with.

see what i'm saying?

making comments are shitty and people are made different. they just are. people should be proud and accept who they are, but when it comes down to true discrimination... fat people take the brunt.

Maybe because it takes work to be overtly skinny and where as someone who maybe has picked up some weight could just need some motivation to get off their arse, exercise and eat better.

Personally I find that its becoming acceptable to comment on overweight people, especially in America. I think people should feel self-conscious either way, bones or belly.

if it takes work to be skinny, you're doing it wrong

wow.

we've all seen this before right?

somehow they always think it's a good idea to bleach their hair during their descent into the meth spiral

If you don't you are not a serious meth head.

word
but it can't be too well done
it has to be yellow-orange and brassy as all hell
and when you bleach the roots they must turn a separate color
believe me, i know these people

Also, if for some reason the meth didn't rot out your teeth, you better pull those bitches out!

Those pictures always scare the shit out of me from doing drugs. I am a pussy with drugs, I guess D.A.R.E. actually worked on me.

.......

needles don't hurt and drugs aren't scary

Is that a character Harmony Korine made up for a movie?

That's what happens when you do meth ONCE!

mmm yea

!@#$%! the first one is a pose for her upcoming Album.

i don't mean when you go nuts with it. jeez.

yeah i should have put it as #3

to show the progression :D

1) Excessive tanning is poor for you health. Tanning is just destroying skin cells via wind burns, UV rays, extreme sunlight, et cetera. I don't think being pale is unhealthy, and mild tanning be shouldn't any harm, but I know those that tan excessively aren't treating their skin nicely.

2) I agree with I think EMMAh who that she'd rather be just herself than anything different (super busty, curvy, whatever). I guess I'm the same way. I mean, I'm definitely not skinny. I eat whatever the hell I want to. But as a note, I will eat some junk food sometimes, but I also eat protein/healthy granola bars daily and drink protein shakes after every workout (also daily). It just so happens that I like to eat a bag of Skittles once every three weeks, and that I also like Clif bars and soy milk like mad.

So, do what you want to do, you know? Just know that you are responsible for your weight/body/physique/you get my point. I have no washboard abs, but when I want them, I'll go get them and not blame "America" for making delicious (i.e., bad for you) potatoes fried in who knows what.

Yes you started with a shocker, then your story got dull.

oh, p.s., the order of these photos would be:

alcohol - she could also seriously use some shampoo

rehab/i can't do drugs anymore so i guess i'll stuff my fucking face to deal with it

crack - bitch needs to lay off the bleach and the crazy


i will never touch crack, meth, or PCP
i drink on a regular basis
who fucking cares
i can hold down a job and pay my rent and feed my cats.

How many cats do you own cantanky?

I hadn't pegged you as a multi cat person....hmmm

I don't know if this is true anymore.
Tasteful often magazines have women who are possibly overweight on their covers, but not for the purpose of displaying how attractive they are.

Such magazines would rarely display an image of someone of might be underweight, because they are trying to emphasize the fact that being underweight is unattractive. But being over is just fine.

I agree with this.

And it's silly to think that, if given the choice, more people would rather be thought of as "too fat" than "too skinny." That's just not the way our society is.

I never gave much thought to weight in general until recently. Growing up, I never really heard people I know talk about the issues they had with their bodies. It just didn't come up. I was friends with people of all sizes and still I never heard any person judge themselves against another.

And then this year, I became friends with a girl who is short and although not skinny, she is not what I would call fat either. To me she has a normal girl's body type, she has a cute smiley happy face, and she is a little on the short side. Whatever. Anyway, she is the first person I've known who has just openly beaten herself up over her weight. She tells me that she has gained 30 pounds since high school ended because she eats out at restaurants all the time and doesn't order the healthiest of foods. I feel bad when she tells me that she feels unattractive, but then she'll switch gears and tell me that she knows it's easy for her to attract male attention, and it's easy for her to find a boyfriend (of which she already has one), and all of this other crap, but she doesn't like the way that she looks. And that's fine. Just because she has a boyfriend, it doesn't mean that it will automatically boost her self-esteem. But she says the most inane shit to me sometimes, like "Rebecca, if I were as skinny as you, I would be much more flirtatious than you are right now. I don't know why you don't have a boyfriend, like, all the time." How do I explain to her that the differences between the two of us, as far as physical appearance is concerned, are really not the issue here? We are not so different in that area that it would result in one of us having all the luck and the other having none. In this case, it is really about personality. Mine turns most people off. Hers does not. She makes guys feel like they are needed. I probably make them feel the opposite. And so on. I mean, there is a reason why she has never gone without having a boyfriend, and why she has had something like 30 of them in the past 5 years. I just wish she could see below the surface of things. She thinks I'm really fucked up, anyway.

ha ha. your friend is fucked in the head. you on the other hand are a bit peculiar, but fundamentally sane.

r.u. sirius?

pictures or it didn't happen.

meanwhile look at this pic from the current vogue website

Lux,you are really fucked up.....

I think I value her honesty, maybe. I can't relate to it (the need to be that honest all the time), but I value it.

sure she "shares" a lot, and friends don't need to be perfect-- my point simply is that according to her there's something wrong with you but by reading your report i see you as the mentally healthy one.

I don't worry that she's actually correct about any of this, if that's what you mean. I think I'm the right one, but that's a given. It's not really any kind of dilemma. I'm just trying to understand how other people think, and sharing my experiences with them.

I don't think our time together is as good for me as it will hopefully be for her, however. I try to tell her, repeatedly, that she needs to respect herself, and that she should stand up for herself when her boyfriend treats her like shit (which is constantly). And when she was having doubts about continuing her education in the arts, I encouraged her to keep trying, etc. When it comes to matters of my own life, she tends to ruin things a bit, like the time she tried to fix me up with a schoolmate of ours even though I politely asked her not to. And things were somewhat awkward between me and this schoolmate for a while because of her intervention, although at this moment they are entirely back to normal and even better than before. So it's like, as disastrous as my friendship can be at times with this girl, it really only gets that way if I give her too much power. And it's never even deliberate. I don't share "special things" with her at all, she just somehow manages to act like I do, and if I'm not on guard then I'm not always prepared to deal with whatever comes next.

I have a co-worker who is always saying she is too fat, but in reality she looks fine with the body she has.

Well, I've seen so much of Jennifer Love Hewitt, Queen Latifa, etc....

jennifer love hewitt overweight????

she's a total matchstick

though i haven't seen her in years i have to say

ok i googled something about her ass-- she has a big ass now? i might actually start to like her

oh damn i found it. it got droopy. wtf?

EXERCISE, GIRL!

i like them big, but i like them to stand up on their own.