Maryland my friend, Maryland!!


"Oh, I work in a gay bar in Baltimore, we call EVERYBODY Mary."

lambsbread? is that patrick o dell, skateboard photographer and vice photo editor's sistor? thats all i know about her . is her music good?

no, this lambsbread is a trio that are kinda like magik markers but more aggressive. they have an lp on ecstatic peace and did a split with sword heaven.

yeah, im pretty sure pat odell's sistor is in the band

they moved to uniontown later, but they grew up in ann arbor, and that's where they got their musical schooling & (i think) recorded calling all girls

you gotta hear david fair talking about it in the band that would be king-- he's hilarious.

batreleaser: the word for lambsbread is inconsistent. check out stereo mars, smelly harbour and the aforementioned split with sword heaven.

dude, unless theres two noise bands called lambsbread i think im right, check this link.

http://www.viceland.com/int/v14n4/htdocs/sweet.php

shit, sorry!! i forgot to say that maybe you are right, i'm not that much of a fan by them. and the comment about inconsistency was directed towards their discography, most of which suck.

oh haha. ive never heard them, i just thought id maybe check them out because im a huge pat odell fan, his skate photos are cream of the crop, and maybe id show his sistor some support. but if the suck, they suck. why has thurston been signing so many crappy noise bands?

appearantly they can really put on a show live and he dug that; besides, the one he put out in ep! (stereo mars) is one of their better ones. when they are good, they are really good, but when they are bad, and they are bad a lot more times than they are good, they suck.

gotcha

Hey, everneurotic, I just wanted to chime in again and mention that Wolf Eyes has been covered in Spin, Blender, Rolling Stoner, Alternative Press, etc. Mainly just little blurbs about "Burned Mind" (never saw a "human animal" review) but there was some live reviews too.

sure, who can forget the spin coverage of "noise punk", metioning such luminaires like wolf eyes, hair police, prurient, carlos giffoni, mouthus, lightning bolt and...err...the locust, the blood brothers and the mars travolta.

yeah, i'm pretty sure every rock publication reviewed burned mind, revolver reviewed it, rolling stone reviewed it, spin reviewed it.

Yeah, I've actually had that DVD for awhile now.....pretty good stuff.

Thurston Moore onstage in Baltimore, 11/24/02: "We're gonna do this cover
for one of the best bands from Maryland...Half Japanese."

SY then revved into a 20-second cover of "Calling All Girls".



I so desperately want to strangle Gerard Cosloy with this flag just thinking about him in that DVD.

That was one of my favorite SY shows. The Recher is great because it is so easy to get to.

they would be king wa boring. they said almost noting about the band, instead it wa a bunch of middle aged geeks wanking about how this band is the greatest thing to ever hit the niverse, but they never actually show why. the live footage was ok but it was mostly more poppy songs and not the early noise songs which are why they are supposed to be so great (i never heard them before or after the dvd so all of my exposure to HJ is from that Doc, so it kind of put me off.
gerald cosloy seems to be one of the dullest people imaginable and ever byro coley, who is usually interesting, was a dull fuck who just talked about how half japanese are greater than the beatles...

when did they do all of the interviews?

haha fugazifan rules.

Exactly.

There's also the fact that some people who post on here might listen to types of music that might be virtually unknown in the western world but they are known as traditional, therefore well known and established, in certain other continents.

Pitchfork is a non-issue to me. I don't think I'm their audience, because I never read it. Most of the stuff they cover is stuff I'm not interested in, and on the rare occasions I have been tipped off to them covering something I like, they usually aren't into it. Haven't paid attention in forever. There are many other much more reliable (and rewarding) sources for me to find out about music I might actually want to purchase or shows I might actually want to attend.

I don't get the fuss about pitchfork at all. Good or bad.

why do all these people read pitchfork if they find it so aggrovating?

lambsbread suck, they sound like a boring version of harry pussy's ride a dove LP

wolf eyes and animal collective count as obscure in the greater scheme of things, and it's naive to think that just because something gets a tiny piece of coverage in a mainstream magazine that that means band x are no longer obscure.

the michigan noise scene is mostly rubbish that all sounds the same, aside from wolf eyes, graveyards & demons (i.e. all wolf eyes related things) every noise band i've heard from i've heard from michigan is pretty much indistinguishable from the last.

I never said the Michigan noise scene was "good", I said that there's a huge noise scene there.

Also, look, define obscure however you want, but if a band like Animal Collective is on television and in feature articles in magazines and known by MILLIONS of people (and listened to by hundreds of thousands of people), I don't think that makes them obscure. Then again, some people on here think Sonic Youth are obscure. So, obviously, my definition of obscurity is different.

End of argument.

I find it ironic that going through what's written on some of this thread reminded me exactly about the standard of writing on pitchfork itself and automatically my brain blanked a lot of it.

do any of the michigan noise bands (aside from wolf eyes) put out releases in editions above 500 (at the absolute max) copies?

how many people do you think who read about animal collective in a mainstream magazine paid any attention to the article, or more to the point, how many people skipped over the article to read about a band they'd heard of before?

I'm really confused by what point you're trying to make, toilet and bowels. There is a LOT of noise bands in Michigan, moreso than most other states I've noticed. That's ALL I'm saying. There's really no reason to debate this, I'm simply stating that there's a ton of noise bands/shows/a big scene there, it doesn't matter if every band releases 1 copy of every release. I've just noticed a huge influx of noise bands that are from Michigan.

Also, the "obscure" is a synonym for "unknown", right? If you bring up Animal Collective to 100 people, I bet you at least 3-8% have heard of if not heard Animal Collective because of their exposure on television. That doesn't seem like a lot -- but it's certainly not UNKNOWN. Animal Collective are extremely popular and getting more and more popular... again look at the last.fm play count/listeners if you don't believe me (and take into account that probably 3 times that many people actually listen to Animal collective that don't have last.fm players). Also note, unlike what someone said earlier (that people will hear 2 seconds and turn it off), I'm almost 100% positive last.fm only counts plays if you play the ENTIRE song (or most of it) all the way through. Anyway, my point is, someone said Animal Collective are "obscure" -- to even be mentioned in something like ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY or to be on CONAN O BRIEN means you're not obscure anymore. Why bother arguing with that? It doesn't matter if people ignored them or didn't like them -- they still saw them. I just don't understand people's definitions of obscurity on here: It's like saying Zappa -- for lack of a better example right now -- is obscure because he doesn't have a platinum record or something... EVERYBODY knows Zappa.

Anyway, off topic, and I don't think I have anything left to add here, but:
http://www.last.fm/user/AleXX%5Bjournals.ru%5D/

This guy sure does love Radiohead!

I call fake.

There's another similiar one called radioheadman that's also obviously fake.

It's pretty brilliant though honestly.

He probably just has a separate computer playing all that shit for him all the time. Doing the math real quick, he listens to radiohead roughly 24 hours a day.

It's difficult for me to listen to radiohead 24 minutes a year usually so that's crazy haha..

SYRFox, did I mention I'm going to see Mahjongg next Saturday?

Oh you lucky guy! I really wished they would play near me but they have no European tour planned for the moment, I really can't stop playing Kontpab. Enjoy yourself! They must blow everything live

there is no way in HELL that animal collective has sold more than 120 thousand of ANYTHING

obscure is NOT a synonym for "unknown"

It means LITTLE KNOWN, in the shadows, not in the mass consciousness, and animal colelctive and nearly 90% of what you ahve ever m,entioned on here as listening to applies dude. get over it. enjoy the cache'

I never said Animal Collective sold 100's of thousands of records. I said they were LISTENED TO by 100's of thousands.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/obscurity
Obscurity - The quality or condition of being unknown.

Yeah, it is more synonymous with "little known" or "virtually unknown"; I didn't mean "completely unknown. period" because if it was THAT obscure to begin with, we wouldn't even be talking about it. I guess I'm willing to accept that there are different levels of oscurity.

Point is, kinda what batreleaser said a few pages ago, if you have records in every record store in America and you've been on television in front of millions of people, you're not obscure. I really would like to reiterate a point from earlier: Animal Collective are a CULT band... but not obscure.

I don't know who the Toadies are :( Now I feel like an ignorant :(

Also, I'd like to mention, AGAIN based on something like last.fm which may not mean anything to you, Animal Collective are more popular than a band like the Toadies. And the Toadies -- I mean, fuck, everyone knows who they are! "I Come from the Water"!... they have a song on Guitar Hero.

No reason to keep debating this with you, I just know if I mention Animal Collective to my peers, they'll know who they are. That's not obscure in the least.

Also, you keep suggesting that Animal Collective hasn't sold enough records to not be obscure. Look, I don't own the Godfather -- but I've seen it. There's thousands of movies people haven't owned but have seen. Would you consider those movies obscure? Animal Collective has been seen by millions of people on television and read about in magazines; even if they didn't necessarily enjoy the performance or whatever, it still elevates Animal Collective beyond obscurity.

SYRFox, I edited that out of my post to make a new post about it haha.

You don't know possum kingdom? "DO YOU WANNA DIEEEEEEEEE?" That song was pretty huge. 90's rock radio classic.

Okay so know, I feel ignorant AND idiot because I posted something that wasn't even related to the last post! What am I going to do...

Anyway, no, I don't know this song, or maybe I heard it actually but don't know the name for it...

Sometimes I don't understand why minute things like that are blown out of proportions.

^^^ agreed

Guess you're just not a product of 90's alternative rock :) ...

It's interesting, there's a Toadies song called "Tyler" that's almost identical to where is my mind.

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You do at least know blur's song 2 right? "WHOO HOO"!!!

Yeah yeah, of course, this one's even on my iPod (only Blur song on there though). But yeah, I'm definitively not an 90's alternative rock fan... Probably relevant as I was born in 1990.