everything in popular culture has went downhill since the 80's really.

amen. ever since then weve had to go deeper into the underground for good tunes. even college rock today is shit frat music. even popular literature has gone downhill. the only thing in the mainstream that is still good is film. especially the past year or so, theres been a lot of big budget flicks thatr i have loved.

Yeah, and wasn't trepanning so much better than these modern fangled MRI machines?

Umm, not anytime soon. Who cares, enjoy music. Carry on.

No, let's discuss the trepanning issue. It's far more interesting than Rock Gods, surely. And i say this as one of the few people on here who still reads Q magazine!

Yeah, and while both have their strengths... one is always infinitley more entertaining to see.

I mean part of teh fun of rock and roll is that its supposed to frighten the elderly... I mean I'm sure part of the fun of liking metal in the eighties was the fact that the pmrc and religous groups were throwing an absolute fit about it..
When your parents music was more scandolous and rowdy than your generation's is something's wrong.
I mean like I've said there's always room for the mellow artists, but when even the "rock" bands have no real star quality there's a problem.
There also seems to be a lack of classic singers either (no morrisons, plants, or hell even osbornes...)

Another truth that I think isn't really faced is that in mainstream music culture, rap is the new rock... it still shocks, and while there is barely any creativity going on in the genre any more, there are still some genuine stars of that genre.

Rap is where music went after Kurt Cobain died and people got tired of the lame post-grunge shit thruted upon us by the radio.

i love some rap

most of the rap i like happened 20-30 years ago though

grandmaster flash ftw
and NWA

That was when it was musically interestsing.... even if NWA were shit heads in real life.

I mean you listen to Public Enemy and then you hear Soulja Boy and you just get sad how much mainstream rap has regressed...

lol @ soulja boy


YOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I mean what the fuck....
XD
Learn the soulja boy (and many other shit modern rappers) method of song writing: Punch buttons on your cell phone in a pattern until you find something that sounds 'catchy', repeat it for five minutes, and brag about yourself in the third person in less than 10 words for those five minutes.

basically

they're making shitloads of money off it though

Yeah...
Doesn't make it cool... XD
Haha I have to hear it far to often, so I can't even give them credit for exploitation XD

The problem with the current crop of Rap 'Gods' is that they really are the genre's least interesting figures (musically at least). Say what you like about Clapton, Hendrix, etc, but at least in their day they were on the cutting edge of what they did. you just can't say the same about someone like P. Diddy.

I don't know, Lil wayne is pretty interesting.
And Kanye is if nothing a dynamic person... XD

But yeah. Its easy to forget clapton's awesomemness when he became such a wimpy shit head in the eighties...

I can't read a metal magazine without drowning in articles on Disturbed or Corey Taylor's recent onslaught of suck.







*spews in mouth*

I don't think that qualifies as rock god.
I don't think the kids really go crazy for these people
And I doubt either one of them will be immortalized in later generations.

Wow. Do people actually take a band that looks like that remotely seriously?

You're lucky if you've never crossed the path of a dim witted teen who swore on either band/artist as the best thing since sliced bread. They breed like rabbits 'round these parts.

All the pre-teens who think their problems are unique an life shattering seem to think they are the shit....
And who else thinks the name disturbed is a load of shit? XD
Charles Mannson was distrubed...these guys are just unnecessarily angsty (in the worst way)

Haha, I'm sure. although i did have the misfortune recently of having to endure someone trying at great length to convince me that Avenged Sevenfold would totally change my life.

They could....
They might make you decide you wanted to kill Avenged Sevenfold thus ladning yourself in jail... I guess they could change your life in that way.
Sadly I like them better than fucking disturbed...

Disturbed has 0 redeeming qualities. There are very few bands I say that about.

I don't think I've heard either. Probably best I don't. Who knows, I might end up liking them. Then I'd have to kill myself. Which would be really life-changing.

They also lack originality in the marketing department...

EDIT: Click the link, sorry I couldn't find a good source for the image I was looking for.

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That's actually made me quite intrigued to hear them.:eek:

Basically, Korn minus the creativity.

disturbed used to be hilarious!

"ohh-wah-cacaca"

ffs

korn are not creative

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zzak8Gq3KO0

Blimey. They really are unbelievably rubbish aren't they! I'm surprised they have a record deal, let alone a fanbase.

the guitar sounds deliciously evil right at the beginning

Hahaha. Word-for-word, too.

I was about to say, "Actually, the song 'Walk' was really good."

But it's by Pantera.

Please tell me that nobody over the age of 8 actually likes them.

pantera were great.

disturbed are very ridiculous, funny as shit. at least the first album.

I think the shock of a lot of youth music is that the older generation simply don't get it. And you, my dear, clearly don't get Soulja Boy. Not that I do myself. I'd be surprised if anyone over 18 did. And that's why a lot of kids love it. Because it really, really pisses people older than them off. Maybe the big change since the late 70s is that by now people are expecting young people's music to be different from theirs.

I'll tell you one thing that pisses me off. Kids no more than 17 going on about fucking Clapton. I'd prescribe them all masses of gurners and a visit to Helter Skelter. Your teen years are the time to listen to music that is deeply regrettable in years to come. It's a time to wear clothes that you'll never be able to pull off in maturity. Look at the nu-ravers. I would look... actually, I'm fucking amazing at clothes, so let's assume the 'I' is someone other than me... 'I' would look fucking awful dressed like a nu-raver, because I'm not a lithe and slightly spotty, bad-haircutted 17-year-old.

To summarise - if the music you're listening to doesn't piss off your parents, you're doing something wrong.

I agree to an extent, but I think it's fine for kids to listen to Clapton, too. While my dad seemed quite confused when he found out I liked Neil Diamond ("Huh...That was old people music even when it came out...") they still couldn't stand (and still can't, I imagine, though I no longer listen to hardcore/metal) most of my music. Now theres about 1/3 of my CDs that my dad borrows on occasion and 2/3 he would never even touch. It's a delicate balance.

EDIT: Oversubordination rules.

I absolutely agree with this. Pop music is a young person's game. I can't stand it when people my age force their opinions on kids.

Getting older should be about becoming comfortable with your own taste, not worrying about those of kids who are no doubt having an absolutely brilliant time, regardless of whether some wide waisted old fart like me thinks what they're listening to is utter poo - which I usually do.

There are two great joys in a person's musical path. The first takes place in your early teens when you develop your first musical obsession, the second comes much later, when you realise that, actually, Dire Strait's first album is a bit of a corker. But if I ever saw a 17 year old bopping along to Sultans of Swing, I'd hang the imaginationless little bore from the nearest willow.

Classic rock is like pyjamas. You need a good few years before realising that, actually, they're great. But you need those years to prove it. Wearing pyjamas before your thirty is, like listening to Dire Straits, a complete betrayal of your youth.

I expect there's a 40+ year old chap reading this going, "Ah, I remember that. I hope that jumped up little twat doesn't think he's old enough to listen to Chris Rea. That's for people my age".

The thing that makes me uncomfortable (sometimes) is the bands that I like that the kiddies of 16-19 or so also like, and I get a bit too excited and starting gashing on about how if they like x they should listen to [hopelessly obscure]y. You see their eyes glaze over and they're looking around for their mates, but they're not there, so the only option is the toilet, which they've just come from. Next thing you know, they've had to suffer the indignity of me realising that I'm one of those people t'other side of 25 who is, in fact, a bit of a music snob/ bore, no matter how many times I say I like Michael Jackson. Luckily, I don't hang around with kiddies that young too often, if I can help it.

Incidentally, it makes me feel slightly relieved that I still think Dire Straits are pretty dull. Ten years ago I would've said something far more vituperous (but it's unlikely I'd've known what 'vituperous' meant).

Well it's certainly my new word for the day.