they're going to dig up heath's corpse and batman's going to fart on it.

That's what I think, they'll probobly mention him, to show that's he's still alive and a possible threat, but nothing on screen. As for Rose Mcgowan as HQ, wouldn't be against that at all, if this was around 1998, but she's lost a lot of weight and doesn't look nearly as hot as she used to around "Jawbreaker". Funny both her and Evan Rachel Wood get mentioned. I can see ERW getting the role, not that'd necessiarly want that.

She still looked damn good in Grindhouse

she's hot.

I'd do her

Either way, this is Hollywood we're talking about. If they can make Charlize Theron ugly, they can make McGowan hot.

Yeah, what a project. . .

making her look hot. . .

acousticrock, I'm curious... do you actually like anything ? You're making me seem pretty positive in comparison as of late haha.

she's t-t-too much.

funny how the director of that very sequence left his wife/kids for her

Haha I like a few things. I also think Rose McGowan is hot, but I was making an alternative point since that's easier than trying to convince people they're wrong.

I'm not all that negative.

cool.

That's not fair to the rest of us. . .

Great great movie. It was indeed excellent. Especially the stunts. But... I'm sorry, it will never beat


Darker film, better Batman, better and more murderous Joker. Simply the best comic book movie of all time :p

I like the Joker in the Dark Knight better because he isn't so easily foiled by Batman.

And while it had that dark Burton look, I think the Dark Knight is much darker themed.


Although there are things about the Burton Batman film that I do like more.

You're right, when both Jokers are standing in the street Batman's says "Where does it get all those wonderful toys?" and DK's says "Hit me!"

I mean, no contest there!

At a mob boss meeting, Nicholson uses the buzzer gag.

At a mob boss meeting, Ledger uses the pencil gag.

definitely, nicholson's joker owes tons to cesar romero.

the only one i think is even slightly comparable to the dark knight is batman returns.

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i always thought harley quinn was a stupid character, but i like her look; i'd fuck a girl in harley quinn costume.

Nicholson a more murderous Joker? Did you watch the Dark Knight?

this was on another board:

similarities between BATMAN BEGINS and ACE VENTURA II.
both characters:
- attend a mountain temple to get over a life changing event.
- have an intense fear of bats that they have to get over.
- are assholes at a huge party.
- drive big-wheeled, freakish vehicles.
- have to prevent a massacre of a huge population - both massacres consisting of the area's people killing each other due to outside influence.
hollywood is obviously incestuous as hell - no matter the genre, so i like to think some dude that helped on ACE VENTURA II had a hand in BATMAN BEGINS (esp. since carrey starred in one of the previous batman franchise films).

hahaha, true dat

hey dave

hey dan

Yea I have to say, Batman Begins is pretty rediculous when you watch it over again. Especially the red blinky thing he pulls out of his shoe that attracts bats. Jesus

Count the deaths, original batman's joker kills more people for the fun of it. Also to me, burning someone to death from a massive electrical shock and then talking to their burnt charred corpse is darker than shoving a pencil in someone's eye. Sorry, the crazed chemistry/artist joker is better.

And Burton's was much darker themed and had a creepy atmosphere that the new ones will never pull off. The 1st half of the Dark Knight felt like I was watching an episode of law and order

actually Nicholson's says " Come to me, son of a bitch " with his arms outstretched while an aircraft is flying towards him firing bullets and missiles

eyeball is right

:) . I don't mean to sound like a picky purist. There are just reasons Batman is my favorite movie of all time ( maybe aside from 2001 a space odyssey ). The Dark Knight was kick ass, it had great stunts, a good joker, it continued the theme of batman cracking the crimes himself just like tim burtons. But I think the first one was darker, that's all. Not saying the dark knight sucks, it was awesome.

i meant about the post immediately before mine... but i dont know which joker is better yet... they are so different

i think i lean toward heath's...

I dunno I mean, when Batman Begins first came out. Absolutely everyone I know said it was the " BEST " Batman movie of all time. And a year later when it came out on DVD and everyone saw it again, half of those people changed their minds.

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I agree with this guy

I saw Batman Begins the day it came out and thought it mostly sucked. I still think that.

yeah i remember that... i didnt agree then... but this newer one is just quicker, bigger... its a spectacle... and it has a villain to match... which is what the first one sorely lacked... liam neeson's character was just really forgettable . not so with heath's joker

IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE DONT READ THIS POST


Joker in this movie hires 4 men to rob a bank for him, then goes on along for the ride in cognito, and has them kill eachother for a larger cut. Then he kills the last surviving one by a fucking bus crashing thru the bank. Then he kills the bus driver.

He then tricks all of the mob into helping him fuck shit up in gotham to find batman. Wanting half of their money that he stole...

then...

he carves up the ghetto mobster...

has the men that he helped get into that place kill eachother in turn for joining jokers crew with a pool stick.

throws rachel off a balcony rather than fall in love with her (vicki vale)

gets captured on purpose

puts a bomb in one of his goons to blow up the police station to escape

Tortures a fake batman and then kills him, paints his face, and stabs a joker card into his chest, hangs him from a noose and has him smashed into the window of the DAs office...then shows the videotape terrorist style to the news channels

ties up the chinese accountant and burns him alive on top of the mob's money that he also burns, right before he has the russian mobster cut up into pieces and fed to his own dogs.

Tries to get the entire city of gotham to murder the guy who's about to reveal batmans identity

blows up a fucking hospital

kills the commisioner of the police with the classic acid in a glass

dresses up like a police officer to try to kill the mayor

blows up a judge

and etc.

and he does all of this to turn harvey evil and make him a villain in order to ruin gotham for the fuck of it...no real motive besides chaos.

oh yeah, and he slams a guys head onto a pencil.

that's just the physical things he does, there's also the psychological...

I'll take that over shocking someone to death with a pee wee herman buzzer.

Though yes, the atmosphere was darker in the burton films, but that's just to make up for the lack of darkness in the actual story, events, and plot. The dark knight is way darker, psychologically.

Yeah these movies are grounded in realism but they are still based off a comic book. The thing with the foot in begins isn't any more unbelievable or silly than the fucking Bat Shark Repelant of the 60s show or anything burton did in Batman Returns....(penguins carrying bombs....)

please.

Dark Knight completely kicks the ass of batman begins

batman.

serious business.

So Gorier equals darker? Plus if you look at the two, the original was gorier. You actually see the guys black charred flesh dropping off his bones while the joker is talking to him with no one else in the room. That's a little more psychologically fucked up to me too. Plus the artist joker burns people with acid and considers it his art. Even burns his girl ( who should've become Harleyquinn ) Every single thing about burton's film to me is darker and more twisted than the new one. I'm done arguing it


You are right about Batman returns though. Some people like it but I'm not a fan, but for some reason, I thought the penguins were the coolest thing about the movie. I HATED the stupid duck

Batman Returns is actually really boring.

The whole thing feels really lackluster.

Good atmosphere of course.. and snow, ohhh!

i like when danny devito bit that dude's nose off