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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.02.2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I just wanted to highlight this bit. People will very often mention the Jewish influence on America - which is not insignificant - but there are plenty of hatstand Christians doing the rounds that actually believe that they can force the second-coming by control of the Holy Land. And the madder sorts of Christianity seem to be a very major force in the States.


Yeah. Fucking nut jobs that don't realize that the antichrist defiling the Temple Mount was a Roman Emperor. Maybe Nero in destroying the 2nd temple, or maybe Hadrian for putting an enormous statue of himself on the Mount.

!@#$%! 06.02.2010 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Yeah. Fucking nut jobs that don't realize that the antichrist defiling the Temple Mount was a Roman Emperor. Maybe Nero in destroying the 2nd temple, or maybe Hadrian for putting an enormous statue of himself on the Mount.


which is kinda why if i were christian i'd return to the catholic baa-baa herd instead of going for the free-interpretation derangement that protestantism opened the door to. nothing wrong with authority if it prevents the lunatics from taking over the asylum. lesser of 2 evils & what not.

but anyway, cock & balls to all.

Glice 06.02.2010 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Yeah. Fucking nut jobs that don't realize that the antichrist defiling the Temple Mount was a Roman Emperor. Maybe Nero in destroying the 2nd temple, or maybe Hadrian for putting an enormous statue of himself on the Mount.


This is, sadly, the beauty of John - revelation is a fucking brilliant book, but it's so fantastically ambiguous that pretty much anyone, at any point, can inscribe temporal eschatology. Millenarians, Joachimism and so on. End days strikes me as an important metaphysical perimeter, but it's excessively dangerous when used as political collateral.

Pookie 06.02.2010 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
This is, sadly, the beauty of John - revelation is a fucking brilliant book, but it's so fantastically ambiguous that pretty much anyone, at any point, can inscribe temporal (of or relating to time)eschatology (the ultimate destiny of humanity, commonly referred to as the end of the world). Millenarians (the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed), Joachimism (a millenarian group that arose from the Franciscans in the thirteenth century) and so on. End days strikes me as an important metaphysical (Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy that investigates principles of reality transcending those of any particular science) perimeter (a path that surrounds an area) but it's excessively dangerous when used as political collateral (crime thriller film starring Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx).

FYI

tesla69 06.02.2010 09:42 AM

and there's that cult of the Red Calf shit...
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WCBS reports parents were informed that a private contractor accidentally flushed propylene glycol into the water supply, but that the propylene is not toxic. Both the Department of Environmental Protection and the Hazardous Material Division of the NYPD are on the scene. Ambulances transported 51 students to local hospitals this afternoon, though none had serious enough injuries to require hospital admission. The school's air conditioning system was reportedly not working this morning, and workers called in to investigate said, "it looks like some of the air conditioner chemicals went into the water supply from the roof."

space 06.02.2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
FYI (for yr information)

tom cruise is a scientologist, but what about jamie foxx and glice?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
which is kinda why if i were christian i'd return to the catholic baa-baa herd instead of going for the free-interpretation derangement that protestantism opened the door to. nothing wrong with authority if it prevents the lunatics from taking over the asylum. lesser of 2 evils & what not.


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thats the route I went, I'm an orthodox proselyte, because I was sick of all the individualism in interpreting Christianity. I needed some kind of theological common ground and a common tradition/worship method which could be mutually shared, not argued about.

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Originally Posted by Glice
This is, sadly, the beauty of John - revelation is a fucking brilliant book, but it's so fantastically ambiguous that pretty much anyone, at any point, can inscribe temporal eschatology. Millenarians, Joachimism and so on. End days strikes me as an important metaphysical perimeter, but it's excessively dangerous when used as political collateral.



agreed. revelations should not be used for politics, it is a mythological narrative of the individual voyage of religious self discovery, the fighting against our own personal demons, and forging a cosmic understanding of a person's place in life, but by no means is a Cliffnotes to the end of the world. It is meant to be a guideline for a metaphysical introspection.

tesla69 06.03.2010 02:17 PM

stuff like this is now being reported "Kevin Ovenden of Britain said a man who had pointed a camera at the soldiers was shot directly through the forehead with live ammunition, with the exit wound blowing away the back of his skull." A coworker told me he watched this on live TV. The man was bcsting live on Al Jazeera and the first 15 mins of the attack were bcst. I'm assuming the video is onlnie somewhere if it exists. People on the boats are now missing and it is thought they were dumped in the ocean. My coworker also says the ships captain was executed.

The US media is so carefully manipulative. The Israeli's, in intl waters, 'stormed' the ship - but then the people on the ship 'attacked' the Israeli stormtroopers. Generally 'attack' refers to an offensive action. When your boat is being 'stormed', you are on the defense, not the attack. Orwellian destructive use of language.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.03.2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
stuff like this is now being reported "Kevin Ovenden of Britain said a man who had pointed a camera at the soldiers was shot directly through the forehead with live ammunition, with the exit wound blowing away the back of his skull." A coworker told me he watched this on live TV. The man was bcsting live on Al Jazeera and the first 15 mins of the attack were bcst. I'm assuming the video is onlnie somewhere if it exists. People on the boats are now missing and it is thought they were dumped in the ocean. My coworker also says the ships captain was executed.

The US media is so carefully manipulative. The Israeli's, in intl waters, 'stormed' the ship - but then the people on the ship 'attacked' the Israeli stormtroopers. Generally 'attack' refers to an offensive action. When your boat is being 'stormed', you are on the defense, not the attack. Orwellian destructive use of language.


yes, we saw this kind of thing during Katrina, when black folks were "looting" while white folks were "heroically surviving against all odds"

fuck israel, there I said it and it felt damn good. Fuck israel. Israelis are cool, but Israel the government, the military, the entity, will surely have a price to pay when Jah's roll is called up yonder..

!@#$%! 06.03.2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
and there's that cult of the Red Calf shit...
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++==
WCBS reports parents were informed that a private contractor accidentally flushed propylene glycol into the water supply, but that the propylene is not toxic. Both the Department of Environmental Protection and the Hazardous Material Division of the NYPD are on the scene. Ambulances transported 51 students to local hospitals this afternoon, though none had serious enough injuries to require hospital admission. The school's air conditioning system was reportedly not working this morning, and workers called in to investigate said, "it looks like some of the air conditioner chemicals went into the water supply from the roof."


i've heard of dogs drinking antifreeze and waking up 16 hours later

!@#$%! 06.03.2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
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thats the route I went, I'm an orthodox proselyte, because I was sick of all the individualism in interpreting Christianity. I needed some kind of theological common ground and a common tradition/worship method which could be mutually shared, not argued about..


im a little jealous of you in the sense that you find comfort in that and i live in a desolate universe. comfort is nice. i am unfortunately incapable of joining any group for any significant length of time, and being a man of little faith compounds the problem. but good for you-- really, no irony. i suppose i can see a relation between your religious practice and those reviews you got today. still, i would not leave my desolate universe for anything else-- my favorite character in "the seventh seal" is not the knight, but the esquire.

Rob Instigator 06.03.2010 05:19 PM

You remember the cop possee that started firing on black people in New Orleans who were supposedly "looting" but were actually just trying to cross an overpass freeway bridge? Just a couple of months ago they FINALLY went to trial and all charges were dismissed. Imagine being those people's families who had relatives get killed by fucking redneck good ol boy PIGS.

fucking shit

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.03.2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
im a little jealous of you in the sense that you find comfort in that and i live in a desolate universe. comfort is nice. i am unfortunately incapable of joining any group for any significant length of time, and being a man of little faith compounds the problem. but good for you-- really, no irony. i suppose i can see a relation between your religious practice and those reviews you got today. still, i would not leave my desolate universe for anything else-- my favorite character in "the seventh seal" is not the knight, but the esquire.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to !@#$%! again.

Keeping It Simple 06.04.2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
You remember the cop possee that started firing on black people in New Orleans who were supposedly "looting" but were actually just trying to cross an overpass freeway bridge? Just a couple of months ago they FINALLY went to trial and all charges were dismissed. Imagine being those people's families who had relatives get killed by fucking redneck good ol boy PIGS.

fucking shit


Maybe the black people who were supposedly looting were looting, hence the reason the charges were dismissed. I do remember reading that a lot of the black people there took the opportunity to loot stores rather than get to safety. Something the cunts of the hard left were at pains to mask by playing every political card in the book. It was a sad indictment on the character of the black people of New Orleans.

Rob Instigator 06.04.2010 09:13 AM

who loots on a freeway overpass bridge?
there is footage of this. I saw it soon after but it is now hard to find. They shot peopl who were just carrying whatever possessions they could get out of their homes.

a lot of ANY TYPE of people were looting, not just black people. New Orleans is, or was, like 75-80% black, a fact not mentioned by racist news media when describing the looting. why can't they call them "citizens?" they are all citizens. I guess "New orleans citizens loot stores" does not scare white folks like "black people looting in new roleans" does.
you do know the news just feeds the fear mongering right? it makes people watch and it makes money off of commercial adverts when more people watch

tesla69 06.04.2010 11:34 AM

Have you seen this list of things banned in Gaza? MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS?

http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/Hidd...trip060510.pdf

Rob Instigator 06.04.2010 11:36 AM

musical instruments ferment revolution!

Rob Instigator 06.04.2010 11:38 AM

and obviously so do herbs and spices

DeadDiscoDildo 06.04.2010 11:44 AM

Rob clear yer pms!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.04.2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
Maybe the black people who were supposedly looting were looting, hence the reason the charges were dismissed. I do remember reading that a lot of the black people there took the opportunity to loot stores rather than get to safety. Something the cunts of the hard left were at pains to mask by playing every political card in the book. It was a sad indictment on the character of the black people of New Orleans.


Sometimes I think you have to be just fucking with us. Dude, that is more full of shit than anything I have ever read you post. How can you be "looting" in a cataclysmic disaster? Looting from who? And even if that were true, since when does looting constitute a capital offense to vindicate those dirt bag fucking cops who pulled the trigger? One day I hope you truly come down from your palace and see the world..

 

Keeping It Simple 06.05.2010 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
who loots on a freeway overpass bridge?
there is footage of this. I saw it soon after but it is now hard to find. They shot peopl who were just carrying whatever possessions they could get out of their homes.

a lot of ANY TYPE of people were looting, not just black people. New Orleans is, or was, like 75-80% black, a fact not mentioned by racist news media when describing the looting. why can't they call them "citizens?" they are all citizens. I guess "New orleans citizens loot stores" does not scare white folks like "black people looting in new roleans" does.
you do know the news just feeds the fear mongering right? it makes people watch and it makes money off of commercial adverts when more people watch


The toadying thought police of the lunatical left have always been at pains to try and convince us that the sun shines out of a black persons ass. The same ass the fucking cunts are wont to stick their tongue up all in the name of modern day marxism commonly known as political correctness. It's beyond pathetic.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.05.2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
The toadying thought police of the lunatical left have always been at pains to try and convince us that the sun shines out of a black persons ass. The same ass the fucking cunts are wont to stick their tongue up all in the name of modern day marxism commonly known as political correctness. It's beyond pathetic.


so you just wanna bring that shit even harder eh? Jesus Christ you are truly a moron.. luck for the world dinosaur thinking like yours is going extinct, and then we will dance on the graves of your bullshit ideas.
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
One day I hope you truly come down from your palace and see the world..


 


Keeping It Simple 06.06.2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
so you just wanna bring that shit even harder eh? Jesus Christ you are truly a moron.. luck for the world dinosaur thinking like yours is going extinct, and then we will dance on the graves of your bullshit ideas.


You call free thinking "dinosaur thinking" because it wasn't ingrained into the brain by some indoctrinating, fascist cunt with a political agenda i.e. the lunatical left who are quite happy to act racist towards other races in the name of a corrupt, self-serving, greedy, insidious, egomaniacal, venal axiom.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.06.2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
You call free thinking "dinosaur thinking" because it wasn't ingrained into the brain by some indoctrinating, fascist cunt with a political agenda i.e. the lunatical left who are quite happy to act racist towards other races in the name of a corrupt, self-serving, greedy, insidious, egomaniacal, venal axiom.


its funny you believe that bullshit you spew to be free thinking..

Keeping It Simple 06.07.2010 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
its funny you believe that bullshit you spew to be free thinking..


Political correctness is the "Big Brother is watching you" that George Orwell wrote about in his book 1984.

tesla69 06.07.2010 09:31 AM

if you rely for your news on the US corporate media, whether ad-supported or underwriter-supported, you won’t learn that Furkan Dogan, the 19-year-old American citizen slain by Israeli commandos in the raid on the Gaza-bound flotilla May 31, was shot in the back and in the back of the head, as well as multiple times in the face.This is the conclusion of the autopsy conducted by the Turkish Council of Forensic Medicine, which also did autopsies on the eight other Turkish citizens killed in the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ferry and five other smaller boats in the so-called Freedom Flotilla. Of the other eight dead, the medical examiners found that five had been shot in the back, or in the back of the head.
This critically important information has not appeared in US news reports. Some American news organizations have left out the autopsy information entirely from their reports as of Saturday. CNN, in its report on Friday, did note that five of the nine were shot in the head, and at close range, but the all-important fact that most of the victims were shot from behind was left out. ABC had the same information on Thursday, again without mentioning the shots from behind. In its article on Friday, the NY Times had yet to even name Dogan, the American victim, much less mention the bullets that hit him or how he was shot.
from today's Counterpunch

ilduclo 06.07.2010 09:57 AM

no, you're defending the status quo, and that's the fucking definition of Big Brother

Rob Instigator 06.07.2010 10:28 AM

Big Brother is an omnipresent government controlling all actions and thoughts of it's populace through control of media, propaganda, social services, etc.

sounds a lot more like modern day UK than USA.

Pookie 06.07.2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Big Brother is an omnipresent government controlling all actions and thoughts of it's populace through control of media, propaganda, social services, etc.

sounds a lot more like modern day UK than USA.

Social services is the opposite of Big Brother, surely.

Rob Instigator 06.07.2010 10:50 AM

social services are used to maintain a certain subset of the population in near permanent indebtedness,/servitude.

one can control those that depend on the government for the very basics of life, foodstamps, welfare checks for housing, etc,.

Pookie 06.07.2010 10:56 AM

Back on thread topic.

ploesj 06.07.2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
if you rely for your news on the US corporate media, whether ad-supported or underwriter-supported, you won’t learn that Furkan Dogan, the 19-year-old American citizen slain by Israeli commandos in the raid on the Gaza-bound flotilla May 31, was shot in the back and in the back of the head, as well as multiple times in the face.This is the conclusion of the autopsy conducted by the Turkish Council of Forensic Medicine, which also did autopsies on the eight other Turkish citizens killed in the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ferry and five other smaller boats in the so-called Freedom Flotilla. Of the other eight dead, the medical examiners found that five had been shot in the back, or in the back of the head.
This critically important information has not appeared in US news reports. Some American news organizations have left out the autopsy information entirely from their reports as of Saturday. CNN, in its report on Friday, did note that five of the nine were shot in the head, and at close range, but the all-important fact that most of the victims were shot from behind was left out. ABC had the same information on Thursday, again without mentioning the shots from behind. In its article on Friday, the NY Times had yet to even name Dogan, the American victim, much less mention the bullets that hit him or how he was shot.
from today's Counterpunch


yes, i read that in today's paper. i'm really glad that media in belgium hasn't really taken a side: they covered both the footage of the israelis being attacked and the autopsy reports.

after hearing the stories though, it doesn't surprise me to read how victims were shot in the back.

oh and israel refused an international investigation. they'll do it themselves. all footage recorded by passengers on board has been taken or destroyed, released images or recordings have been edited. they are making it hard to be believed.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.07.2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
Political correctness is the "Big Brother is watching you" that George Orwell wrote about in his book 1984.


You can not hide racism behind a veil of anarcho/anti-system rhetoric, your pep rally is bullshit. Acknowledging the truth is not necessarily political correctness, and since you live the lies of course you can't see it, even though it is plainly in front of you.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.07.2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
if you rely for your news on the US corporate media, whether ad-supported or underwriter-supported, you won’t learn that Furkan Dogan, the 19-year-old American citizen slain by Israeli commandos in the raid on the Gaza-bound flotilla May 31, was shot in the back and in the back of the head, as well as multiple times in the face.This is the conclusion of the autopsy conducted by the Turkish Council of Forensic Medicine, which also did autopsies on the eight other Turkish citizens killed in the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ferry and five other smaller boats in the so-called Freedom Flotilla. Of the other eight dead, the medical examiners found that five had been shot in the back, or in the back of the head.
This critically important information has not appeared in US news reports. Some American news organizations have left out the autopsy information entirely from their reports as of Saturday. CNN, in its report on Friday, did note that five of the nine were shot in the head, and at close range, but the all-important fact that most of the victims were shot from behind was left out. ABC had the same information on Thursday, again without mentioning the shots from behind. In its article on Friday, the NY Times had yet to even name Dogan, the American victim, much less mention the bullets that hit him or how he was shot.
from today's Counterpunch



 

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you."

Keeping It Simple 06.07.2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
You can not hide racism behind a veil of anarcho/anti-system rhetoric, your pep rally is bullshit. Acknowledging the truth is not necessarily political correctness, and since you live the lies of course you can't see it, even though it is plainly in front of you.


"Big Brother" says it's racism! And I say "Big Brother" is racist! You can't accuse someone of something your political views is guilty of. It's known as hypocrisy, no matter how you hard you try to mask it.

Rob Instigator 06.07.2010 04:57 PM

"political views" are not entities that can be "guilty" or "innocent."
They are just positions, highly variable and not set in stone, that people choose to take.

pbradley 06.07.2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
Political correctness is the "Big Brother is watching you" that George Orwell wrote about in his book 1984.

The irony that you'd invoke Orwell is deafening to anybody who knows Orwell's political views. Is political incorrectness against the law? No? Well, I suppose there is an clear enough avenue to gain entry to promenade of bullshit that is the totality of your political views.


But of course you're the "keep it simple, stupid" troll so I'm obliged to congratulate you on your success.

Keeping It Simple 06.07.2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
The irony that you'd invoke Orwell is deafening to anybody who knows Orwell's political views. Is political incorrectness against the law? No? Well, I suppose there is an clear enough avenue to gain entry to promenade of bullshit that is the totality of your political views.


But of course you're the "keep it simple, stupid" troll so I'm obliged to congratulate you on your success.


It's a pity you clearly don't know them. A poor effort at pretending you did.

pbradley 06.07.2010 06:16 PM

Though I am very well aware of Orwell's democratic socialist beliefs, the main point of that reply is that political correctness is nothing like Big Brother because political correctness is not legally enforced. There's simply nothing "thought police" about private citizens thinking you're a shithead for saying shit things. All you have is hyperbolic nonsense that's founded in your own frustration with being shit.

the ikara cult 06.07.2010 06:41 PM

I have been more than outspoken on political issues on this board, so the advent of a fresh flashpoint in the middle east should spur me into polemical action....
Fuck, i have no solutions. None of us do.
Question Time last week had a debate on this last week where both ends of the arguement (I dont think theyre "sides") were aired, and it feels hopeless. Israel fucked it up of course, but Hamas is an explicitly antisemetic organisation. All these claims ive heard that Israel is secular are completely laughable too.
This is a conflict i can see resulting in a "dirty" bomb. But that will only happen if the two sides were to resolve and live in peace, paradoxically. The extremists thrive on the ethnic identities of civilians being indistinguishable so they can relate less to those they consider collaborators or infidels.


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