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gmku 12.28.2006 10:43 AM

They signed a lot of unknowns. I think the focus on the northwest was something they helped develop, not something they responded to.

gmku 12.28.2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
It was 'different' back then.I was 'differenet' too.I used to listen to 'Ultra Mega Ok' by Soundgarden(on SST) and think that it was the epitome of music cool.


Well, it still can be. At least for me it's one of the many different things I consider epitomes of music cool.

Savage Clone 12.28.2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
haha...wolf eyes claim it was over a bet w/ the current SP owner...and if they won (which they obviously did) sub pop had to put out an album for em..



Well, that could be a part of it too. I don't have a monopoly on information.
Pretty funny.

Savage Clone 12.28.2006 10:51 AM

Plus the fact that they tour relentlessly and know how to deliver the goods live on a fairly consistent basis.

Rob Instigator 12.28.2006 11:06 AM

Sebadoh rules all!!!

they are notorious for being an uneven live band, because they do NOT FAKE IT, and if they feel like shit or if the audience is acting like fucking dipshits they will not pretend.
they are a fucking amazing band and everything they touch is gold. great songs, great riffs, great music.
My faves are bubble and scrape and smash yr head


and Lou is a nice fucking guy to boot.

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also, part of the deal when nirvana signed with geffen was that sub pop would get a small cut of the sales, whih helped subpop develop into a bigger label and expand their catalogue.

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Malachi_Constant 12.28.2006 11:26 AM

Nirvana or Mudhoney. Can't really choose between the two right now.

The Lung 12.28.2006 12:19 PM

I'd say Sebadoh now but either Nirvana, Mudhoney or Soundgarden would have been my choice when I was a little grungehead all those years ago.

gmku 12.28.2006 12:28 PM

Soundgarden was not really a SubPop band. They were SST, mostly.

The Lung 12.28.2006 12:29 PM

You can say that about alot of the bands though

gmku 12.28.2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lung
You can say that about alot of the bands though


lol... huh!? No, you can't. Whatever do you mean, oh silly one?

Rob Instigator 12.28.2006 12:45 PM

soundgarden released two albums and an ep on subpop I thought

EDIT

Yr right gmku, most everything soundgarden did was sst oR a&m

The Lung 12.28.2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
lol... huh!? No, you can't. Whatever do you mean, oh silly one?


I didn't mean they went on to SST, I meant they didn't release alot of records on subpop. jesus everybody here is so desperate to be right and make other people look stupid, it's fucking boring.

matt g 12.28.2006 01:12 PM

the COMBUSTIBLE EDISON!

compulsive diarrhea, jico 12.28.2006 01:48 PM

kinski sub pop albums are good too... both of them

what to say about wolf eyes and comets on fire latest albums... good stuff.

let's wait and see what happens to sub pop.

gmku 12.28.2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lung
I didn't mean they went on to SST, I meant they didn't release alot of records on subpop. jesus everybody here is so desperate to be right and make other people look stupid, it's fucking boring.


Well, then, say what you mean, young man! And then you won't look so stupid. ;)

DJ Rick 12.28.2006 04:00 PM

Shame on SY Gossip board! Six pages in and no mention of the A Frames yet?

Best records on Sub Pop ever...

A Frames "Black Forest"
Beat Happening "Jamboree"
Beat Happening "Black Candy"
Beat Happening "You Turn Me On"
Dead Moon "Dirty Noise" 7"
Les Thugs "Stay Hungry"
Lubricated Goat "Play Dead" 7"
Night Kings "Increasing Our High"
Pissed Jeans "Don't Need Smoke to Make Myself Disappear" 7"
Poison 13 "Love Me" 7"
the Scientists "Swampland"
Tad "God's Balls"
Tad "Salt Lick"
Thee Headcoats "Heaven's To Murgatroyd, It's Thee Headcoats Already"
Unrest "A Factory Record" 7"
Unsane "Vandal-X" b/w "Street Sweeper" 7"
Wolf Eyes "Burned Mind"

and...
Dead Moon retrospective
Radio Birdman retrospective
Michael Yonkers retrospective

Rob Instigator 12.28.2006 04:25 PM

Unsane "Vandal-X" b/w "Street Sweeper" 7"

the single greatest 7 inch to come from sub pop in my opinion

matt g 12.28.2006 05:50 PM

I almost forgot... THE FLUID!

great band from Denver during the 'bleach' era...

when SY played in denver this past summer Thurston name-checked the fluid, that was dope.

Dead-Air 12.28.2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by grungenotdead?
mudhoney, without them sub pop wouldnt exist


My choice would be Green River, which is even moreso the case. Of course Green River never quite put on any of their records the intensity of what they were like live with Mark's Stooge rawk screamfest fighting with the obvious future pop sensibilities of Ament and Gossard. Mind, I hated Mother Love Bone and Pearl Jam make me projectile vomit, but Green River at their best were even better than Mudhoney at their best. Steve will hate me for saying it, but it's true. Mudhoney did better on record - at least you've got Super Fuzz Bigmuff and all the original singles, and maybe 5 songs from the first album... But Mark's stagedives into the crowd while still screaming with Green River back in the day before such things were cliche, paved the way for everything else Sub Pop ever stood for that was cool.

Norma J 12.28.2006 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by khchris(original)
I kinda rank bands by consistency, and to put out 3 incredibly amazing albums in a row is quite an accomplisment that not even more respected bands like Fugazi ever did.


Incorrect.

They had 7 (If you can't 13 Songs) incredible albums in a row.

DJ Rick 12.28.2006 11:15 PM

All-time worst Sub Pop records (they shoulda let C/Z release 'em)...

Coffin Break "Lies" 7"
Best Kissers in the World "s/t"
Green Magnet School 7"
Big Damn Crazy Weight 7"
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion "xmas" 7"
anything by Reverend Horton Heat
anything by Supersuckers
anything by Combustible Edison
"Hype!" soundtrack (even the great bands can't save the bad moments!)
Nightcaps 7"
glam-era Makers
Pleasure Forever
Migala

Greatest disappointment ever on the label...

Hellacopters "Grande Rock" (where did the guitars go in that mix???)

Before the Hives broke through and just after Turbonegro mysteriously broke up, it was the Hellacopters' job to take over rock 'n' roll. They made some pretty good records up through 1997-98, but then THIS??? There went their chances. They went from collector scum darlings to having bins busting with used CDs within one year of this turd of an album!

matt g 12.29.2006 01:57 AM

anything by Reverend Horton Heat on Sub Pop was good... no, really, it was still "fresh."

anything by Combustible Edison is good, the soundtrack to a drink in your hand and a lovely lady at your side, the night never ending...

!@#$%! 12.29.2006 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#%$!
What is yours?

Mine is probably Sebadoh. I would say Mudhoney, but Sebadoh put out more albums that were better.


YOUR ANUS RUNS

Dead-Air 12.29.2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lung
I didn't mean they went on to SST, I meant they didn't release alot of records on subpop. jesus everybody here is so desperate to be right and make other people look stupid, it's fucking boring.


Either that, or you're just wrong and other people are trying to point out the bad information.

Soundgarden put out one album on SST, while at Sub Pop, they put out one of the label's very first singles "Hunted Down", very firt e.p.s "Screaming Life" (which was later used as the title of Charles Peterson's book about the Sub Pop days!), and as already mentioned, wrote a song called "Sub Pop Rock City" that was on the Sub Pop 200 comp. They were on Sub Pop and associated with the people there for a number of years, going back to when they played the Ditto tavern in Seattle with Skin Yard on weeknights. While at SST they put out one record right as they got signed to the majors, and were "involved" with the label for less than a year.

Ultramega OK is just o.k. , while all of Soundgarden's best work was on Sub Pop, by the time they moved to the majors, they were Spinal Tap, and knew it to the point of playing "Big Bottom" live.

jon boy 12.29.2006 10:45 AM

mudhoney would be mine i think.

HECKLER SPRAY 12.29.2006 11:00 AM

Me too, 'cause they 're still faithfull to the label, working for it, and they have a good sound.

Pookie 12.29.2006 11:36 AM

Possibly Nirvana for me:

1. The first album was very good
2. They were great when I saw them live at the time
3. At the time, we used to have stupid arguments in the pub about who was better, them or Tad (good times for me).

king_buzzo 12.29.2006 11:59 AM

shouldnt you call this thread favourite 'grunge' artist of all time?

still not all sub pop is 'grunge'


my vote goes to mudhoney.

porkmarras 12.29.2006 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Possibly Nirvana for me:

1. The first album was very good
2. They were great when I saw them live at the time
3. At the time, we used to have stupid arguments in the pub about who was better, them or Tad (good times for me).

I was quite touched by a young lithuanian musician recently.As we were chatting about Nirvana,i told him that i've seen them 3 times while they were still around and the expression on his face was like,wow!.

Pookie 12.29.2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
I was quite touched by a young lithuanian musician recently.As we were chatting about Nirvana,i told him that i've seen them 3 times while they were still around and the expression of on his face was like,wow!.


Same happens when I mentioned it to my niece and nephew who are big fans, but weren't born when I first saw Nirvana.

Pookie 12.29.2006 12:09 PM

Aren't we just the coolest?

porkmarras 12.29.2006 12:12 PM

Yes!

HECKLER SPRAY 12.29.2006 12:13 PM

You 're the luckiest persons 'cause you 're born at the good era for rock addicts.

DJ Rick 12.29.2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt g
anything by Reverend Horton Heat on Sub Pop was good... no, really, it was still "fresh."

anything by Combustible Edison is good, the soundtrack to a drink in your hand and a lovely lady at your side, the night never ending...


I know it's all about diff'rent strokes for me and you, but I just couldn't identify with the swanky feelin's of songs like "It's Martini Time!" I like extreme ridiculousness, but it's gotta be my kinda ridiculous. And I couldn't really see too much separation between RHH and C.E. and stuff like the Cherry Poppin' Daddies and the Crazy 8's. And maybe this all got kick-started by Buster Poindexter, or going back even further...TACO!

One more really sucky record on Sub Pop was that album by Sprinkler.

Dead-Air 12.30.2006 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
I was quite touched by a young lithuanian musician recently.As we were chatting about Nirvana,i told him that i've seen them 3 times while they were still around and the expression on his face was like,wow!.



The first time I saw Nirvana it was at Squid Row, this tiny club in Seattle, and there were honestly like three people in the audience. I had gone to see Skin Yard, who they were opening for. The set was all Bleach stuff of course, and quite a bit more metal stylisitcally than even a few years later when they would still be doing that stuff (they kept doing mostly material off of Bleach for a really long time before they started the stuff that wound up on Nevermind.) I was totally floored by their set, and walked out in a total daze, deciding I didn't need to stay to watch the headlining band because this was too fucking good. I said to myself outloud, as I walked out of the club, "That's the best band in the world, and noone will ever know..."

It seemed that way at the time anyhow...

Thomas Moronic 12.31.2006 06:16 AM

Fave Sub Pop artists: Sleater Kinney or Wolf Eyes.

atsonicpark 12.31.2006 07:55 AM

sunny day real estate.

Damian 12.31.2006 03:31 PM

MUDHONEY! (aka KINGS OF ROCK)
btw their last album was the best thing that I listened to this year


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