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Rob Instigator 12.18.2012 05:39 PM

My shit be catching. I spread like a virus.
I spread pussy like a virus tooooooo

dale_gribble 12.18.2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
everything is expanding faster. Taht means that the energy of the universe is getting more and mopre spread out. eventually it will dissipate to nil.


or it will start to contract and eventually collapse into a singularity again...if it indeed was one to begin with. in fact i'm not even sure i'm using the right word, my memory could be failing me.

Rob Instigator 12.18.2012 05:52 PM

Dale. you need to bone up on the past 5 years of research. The Universe does not contain enough mass to prevent it from expanding "forever."

It is actually expanding FASTER now than it was yesterday, and the day before, etc.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.18.2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
everything is expanding faster. Taht means that the energy of the universe is getting more and mopre spread out. eventually it will dissipate to nil.


But Rob, the fact that it is not only expanding, but after an estimated 13.7BILLION years is in fact accelerating suggests the opposite of that, inexplicably it doesn't at all seem to be dissipating. Of course, this is what is leading to new examinations of the ideas of Dark Matter/Energy which is about as Mysterious as an Christian Sacrament ;)

jon boy 12.19.2012 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
work the worst invention of humans
i'm totally anti-work

let robots do the work
or software and computersystems

modern days

most jobs are totally energy waste


ok so go to the dole office 3 hours late and see if time exists.

_slavo_ 12.19.2012 05:14 AM

i feel miserable when reading these posts.
you guys must have too much time on your hands, sitting here babbling about "time".

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 08:41 AM

I love physics.

gast30 12.19.2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
ok so go to the dole office 3 hours late and see if time exists.

that has nothing to do with time jon boy

take your time and let me explain/ correct

my natural day as an animal, coming from apespecie/ex treeclimer is that i clim into trees and eat fruit and drink water at a lake or something

there is nothing more primitive then that

you can understand this

my natural day is going out, look for food and water and eat it

EVERYONE CAN DO THIS

everyones natural behaviour in nature

simpel

now because of the emergency of overpopulation and foodshortage and the industry around food

i can't do this
my basic right to eat food and drink water
is simply my basic right to eat food and drink water

if i don't get acces to food and water
i am beeing murderd
ok

everyone who has no acces to food and water dies
simpel

after explaining this
making this clear

i see no reason why i need the dole office wich i don't need naturaly

because >>> everyone can find food and water as an animal
our origin

because there is a dole office there is time is what you say jon boy

because there is food there is time?

you understand where i'm getting at
look at it from natural life perspective




what is this time then?

can you give a prove that there is time?

gast30 12.19.2012 08:47 AM

the discussion about time is more complex because it situates in the world of sapians

the real question is because sapians use time does it mean that it really exist

and we sapians have a discussion about this and are talking around this subject and share our thoughts

that is all

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 09:29 AM

Time is relative, as Einstein showed. Time flows slower if you have increasing mass, or increasing speed. One weird thing about the universe is that, because E = MC2, the faster you go the more MASS you gain! weird!

a light photon, or any energy photon, can go the speed of light becauise it is essentially massless, being pure energy, but anything that has even the slightest bit of mass, like a proton, takes massive energy to get to light speed because as it gets faster the mass of the proton increases exponentially, needing more and more energy to go faster.

that is why the LHC is so goddamn big! It needs massive energy to approach the speed of light for it's particle beams to collide creating conditions not seen since the early universe.

Time, while it may be an abstract, is as real as love, or orgasms.

gast30 12.19.2012 09:36 AM

love .. time to get romantic

if you are a product of love
you are born to expercience love

'so i am here to see love' goes the theory

if i was born to see shit
then i simply look at the poop of a cow

or not?

demonrail666 12.19.2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
the real question is because sapians use time does it mean that it really exist


Man invented clocks but to say he invented time is like saying the guy who invented the thermometer invented heat. Flames burnt people long before they conceived of things like centigrade. Man creates ways of measuring things but not the thing itself.

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 09:47 AM

demonrail666 to the rescue.

gast30 12.19.2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Man invented clocks but to say he invented time is like saying the guy who invented the thermometer invented heat. Flames burnt people long before they conceived of things like centigrade. Man creates ways of measuring things but not the thing itself.

yeah man
this is what i'm talking about

gast30 12.19.2012 11:02 AM

try to sell that to wallstreet demonrail666 lol

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 11:07 AM

wallstreet thinks they create value.

fuck those assholes

gast30 12.19.2012 11:28 AM

yeah fuck those asshole who wash clean the money of these multinationals who get rich on the back of poor people by exploiting them as a workforce and pay them 1 $ a month

free economy = free choise of poor workforces in poor countries to make MAXIMUM benefit

and then everone here complaining that there are no jobs

wake up and see the slavery you voted for
the slavery you joined
and the slavery you made legal

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 11:42 AM

They don;t care as long as they can afford the new xbox.

gast30 12.19.2012 11:50 AM

you only helping the rich when you go to vote

i see no homes beeing build for the homeless

i see banksystems that sell homes and then create more homeless when they ask their money back with a massive intrest

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Dale. you need to bone up on the past 5 years of research.

I've recently noticed a disturbing trend of the phrase "study it up" of "study on it", and now, "bone up on" being tossed about instead of fact in defense of often undefendable statements.

This often follows a duckfaced-diatribe on pro-life, anti-gun control, immigrant hate, or "intelligent design" and carries little weight on the conversation barring making the author feel more learned than...

I'm not saying you're "one of those people", but please, STOP THE MADNESS.

jon boy 12.19.2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
that has nothing to do with time jon boy

take your time and let me explain/ correct

my natural day as an animal, coming from apespecie/ex treeclimer is that i clim into trees and eat fruit and drink water at a lake or something

there is nothing more primitive then that

you can understand this

my natural day is going out, look for food and water and eat it

EVERYONE CAN DO THIS

everyones natural behaviour in nature

simpel

now because of the emergency of overpopulation and foodshortage and the industry around food

i can't do this
my basic right to eat food and drink water
is simply my basic right to eat food and drink water

if i don't get acces to food and water
i am beeing murderd
ok

everyone who has no acces to food and water dies
simpel

after explaining this
making this clear

i see no reason why i need the dole office wich i don't need naturaly

because >>> everyone can find food and water as an animal
our origin

because there is a dole office there is time is what you say jon boy

because there is food there is time?

you understand where i'm getting at
look at it from natural life perspective




what is this time then?

can you give a prove that there is time?


are you related to karl pilkington?

gast30 12.19.2012 12:22 PM

very true these undefendable statements

it is just some tsunamie of a persons 'thruth'/ force / imaginated power / rational contruction that is comming down your way

so just let it happen

if someone thinks he/she is more superiour with words or more superiour in general

let the ape fly

i think you don't need the build spaceships
sapians are already seriously fly'ing

gast30 12.19.2012 12:22 PM

karl pilkington
got to look that up

brb

gast30 12.19.2012 12:28 PM

sometimes

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 12:31 PM

Study up on the bone.

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 12:35 PM

Dark Energy experiments with gravitational lensing show that Universe will expand forever.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11030889

Knowing the distribution of dark energy tells astronomers that the Universe will continue to get bigger indefinitely.
Eventually it will become a cold, dead wasteland with a temperature approaching what scientists term "absolute zero".
Professor Priyamvada Natarajan of Yale University, a leading cosmologist and co-author of this study, said that the findings finally proved "exactly what the fate of the Universe will be".

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 12:51 PM

Maybe they should start by figuring out what dark energy is (interdimensional leak-through) before using it to seal the fate of this planar existence.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 12:55 PM

You don't need to know what gravity IS before you figure out it makes things fall and go boom.

You don't need to know what alternate tunings are to figure out that Sonic Youth ruled.

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 01:09 PM

But I DO know what gravity is.

That's simple.

Gravity is a space/time field-effect distortion caused by quarks becoming entangled with their extra-dimensional counterparts, being as the cardinality of the sum-figure of multi-dimensional universal-existence.

would you like a ride on my starship now???

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 01:50 PM

I thought gravity was the inter-dimensional accumulation of all matter in the multi-verse interacting with itself, through the near-infinite branes, causing such observable weakness that gravity becomes nearly negligible in our own personal 'verse?

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 02:01 PM

You just ran my post through google translator, didn't you??

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 02:02 PM

Fuck this shit, Rob. Let's go get high like a motherfucker.

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 02:25 PM

We will do so, and then through the wisdom of ravi Shankar's cumin-scented taint, we will traverse the meta-sphere in such a way that the Indians will make us honorary Indians, and the pakistanis will make us honorary Pakistanis. This will also create the benefit of having Norah Jones give us a spite-bang due to the hate she held for the absentee asshole who fathered her.

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 02:50 PM

Alan Alda has a contest where scientists try to explain a tough question simply, in a way that an 11 year old can understand. Last year's contest was "What is flame?"
800 scientists answered and over 6000 children worldwide judged the answers.

This year it is

WHAT IS TIME?

http://news.yahoo.com/alan-alda-scie...150249182.html

floatingslowly 12.19.2012 02:55 PM

next thing you know, the lil' bastards'll be asking "what's for supper" and "are we there yet?"

:mad:

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 02:56 PM

Wait til you have to explain to your ink-stained float-spawn what time is!
Then start telling him/her about entanglement.

Rob Instigator 12.19.2012 02:58 PM

I thought it was neat how AA mentions that around age 11 is when children are able to formulate really difficult questions and assimilate really difficult answers.

Just in time to enter the HORROR that is Public Middle Schools in America.

jon boy 12.19.2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
karl pilkington
got to look that up

brb


are you the sort of person that when a friend says meet me in an hour you say 'time doesn't exist you know', that sort of person?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.20.2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I thought it was neat how AA mentions that around age 11 is when children are able to formulate really difficult questions and assimilate really difficult answers.

Just in time to enter the HORROR that is Public Middle Schools in America.


Sometimes I often feel that children think the deepest, asked the most profound questions, and have the most existential experiences of wisdom than any other human beings. Then we domestic humans by first introducing them to the concept of language, which perhaps at this spiritual level limit understanding more so than it expands, because thoughts in this way are entirely limited by motor coordination development and vocabulary. My vibe is that infants are practically Divine, and we ruin it by trying to steadily introduce them to our confusion we call reality. Perhaps sometimes in meditation we should emulate their experience, and search for that silent, reverberating wisdom which is at the core of our existence. Even if we were just speaking purely biologically, the brain does a million things more than we are cognitive or conscious of, and we can tap into this awareness in different ways. This is what can be called "spirituality" which is to say something like extra-sensory perception in the same way the radio telescopes give as a radically different view of the Universe than visible light. Kids are deeper than the waves at Redondo Beach yo!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
you only helping the rich when you go to vote


There are perhaps three, and only three things you've ever posted here that I ever liked, agreed with, our was heavily persuaded by. This is the best so far to make it four. Keep up the good work



 

Keeping It Simple 12.20.2012 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
i feel miserable when reading these posts.
you guys must have too much time on your hands, sitting here babbling about "time".


They clearly have too much time on their hands.:D


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