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Severian 09.21.2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
So.. new Lupe album is fucking amazing. AMAZING.

Easily better than Tetsuo & Youth. Jesus.


Better than Tetsuo? Eat shit.
I’ll give it a listen.

Severian 09.21.2018 10:56 AM

So maybe “Yahndi” AND Kanye x Chance “Good Ass Job” AND maybe WTT2 (?) all motherfucking coming this year?!

Yahndi, whatever that is, apparently next Friday.

Not sure whether to be stoked or horrified.

Rob Instigator 09.21.2018 11:04 AM

have not heard new Lupe LP

Severian 09.22.2018 10:01 AM

Louder,

I have DRPGAS WAVE a quick listen yesterday and I’m sorry... I have to disagree with the assertion that it’s better than Tetsuo & Youth.

I like it, it’s good, it slaps, good stuff, but sonically it is a less nuanced thing. More direct rappity rap from what I can tell. Don’t care for the extended Spanish monologues and sound bytes. Nothing against Spanish, but I find it distracting. Also not sure how I feel about Lupe affecting a Jamaican accent. Feels a bit weird.

Gotta listen more, of course, but yeah... it’s defijitely not bad, but I don’t see myself returning to it much.

Fact I put “Mural” on after like five songs and was digging that significantly more.

louder 09.22.2018 11:27 AM

"Alan Forever", "King Nas" and "Imagine", to name a few, really captivated me. Tetsuo was good but I wasn't really moved by the music or Lupe's rapping.

Severian 09.22.2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
"Alan Forever", "King Nas" and "Imagine", to name a few, really captivated me. Tetsuo was good but I wasn't really moved by the music or Lupe's rapping.


I don’t think rapping is or ever has been Lupe’s strength.
He’s like ... well, honestly, he’s almost like a Kanye figure (broken record here, I know) from another dimension. With less obnoxious behavior and less interesting music. His discography and the path of his music oddly mimics Kanye’s in a lot of ways, except where things worked for Ye, they didn’t work for Lupe.

Basically he’s Food & Liquor, The Cool and Tetsuo for me. Those are the only Lupe albums I need.

Severian 09.22.2018 12:10 PM

There’s a snippet out from Carter V. Something about pistols. It’s a snoozer. Stopped it halfway through.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 09.25.2018 07:52 PM

Carter V drops this Friday guys


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=pKWrzGKZoaQ

Severian 09.25.2018 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson


I thought it was dropping Thursday

Yahndi is (allegedly) dropping Friday

Nobody GAFs about Carter V

Dr. Eugene Felikson 09.25.2018 08:28 PM

Young moolah babyyyyy let's goooo

louder 09.26.2018 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I don’t think rapping is or ever has been Lupe’s strength.
He’s like ... well, honestly, he’s almost like a Kanye figure (broken record here, I know) from another dimension. With less obnoxious behavior and less interesting music. His discography and the path of his music oddly mimics Kanye’s in a lot of ways, except where things worked for Ye, they didn’t work for Lupe.

Basically he’s Food & Liquor, The Cool and Tetsuo for me. Those are the only Lupe albums I need.

Really? No.. Lupe is more like a Kendrick/Nas figure. He's all about concepts, storytelling and technical rapping. :rolleyes:

louder 09.26.2018 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson


I'm actually pretty excited. He's been working on this one for 6 years..

Severian 09.26.2018 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
Really? No.. Lupe is more like a Kendrick/Nas figure. He's all about concepts, storytelling and technical rapping. :rolleyes:


Disagree.
He’s about doing a variety of sonic shit, and leaning into a variety of sounds and he kinda sucks at technical rapping.

Also, Kendrick and Nas are alike now?

Pssssh

louder 09.26.2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Disagree.
He’s about doing a variety of sonic shit, and leaning into a variety of sounds and he kinda sucks at technical rapping.

Also, Kendrick and Nas are alike now?

Pssssh

He.. sucks? Whoa. You don't think his verse on "Touch the Sky" was incredible?

Man, Lupe fans are all about trying to decipher his lyrics and concepts. He was the past decade's Kendrick, albeit not as acclaimed or successful.. his first two albums are considered classics and Kendrick was probably influenced by him to an extent.

Food & Liquor 2 was pretty shit musically, almost like an audiobook. He finally stepped up his production on Tetsuo but his lyrics were still super dense and stuff. Drogas Wave is his most balanced effort in my opinion. Still has strange concepts that'll take months to fully digest but the music itself is just really fucking good.

And yes Nas and Kendrick are comparable in terms of being skilled, "conscious" rappers and lyricists. They both aim for that "best rapper" spot, while someone like Kanye is more about creating amazing, enjoyable music.

louder 09.26.2018 08:20 AM

I don't know how one can listen to Hurt Me Soul, Alan Forever or King Nas (which has nothing to do with Nas at all by the way) yet not hear how great Lupe is at rapping.. unlike Eminem, he makes his complex rhyme schemes sound so effortless too..

Severian 09.26.2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
I don't know how one can listen to Hurt Me Soul, Alan Forever or King Nas (which has nothing to do with Nas at all by the way) yet not hear how great Lupe is at rapping.. unlike Eminem, he makes his complex rhyme schemes sound so effortless too..


Ehh... not saying he’s bad, but I don’t think technical rapping is one of his strengths, nor something he’s perceived to be particularly good at by many.

He’s a so-so lyricist too.

Not hating. I like him. There’s more to making hip-hop music than R-A-Ping.

Severian 09.26.2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
He.. sucks? Whoa. You don't think his verse on "Touch the Sky" was incredible?

Man, Lupe fans are all about trying to decipher his lyrics and concepts. He was the past decade's Kendrick, albeit not as acclaimed or successful.. his first two albums are considered classics and Kendrick was probably influenced by him to an extent.

Food & Liquor 2 was pretty shit musically, almost like an audiobook. He finally stepped up his production on Tetsuo but his lyrics were still super dense and stuff. Drogas Wave is his most balanced effort in my opinion. Still has strange concepts that'll take months to fully digest but the music itself is just really fucking good.

And yes Nas and Kendrick are comparable in terms of being skilled, "conscious" rappers and lyricists. They both aim for that "best rapper" spot, while someone like Kanye is more about creating amazing, enjoyable music.


He was not the last decade’s Kendrick.

When I say technical rapping I’m taking about what Eminem and Kendrick do well — which involves not only the ability to drop bars, but to you with language and rhyme schemes and experiment with meter, all with clever lines and expertly executed raps.

I don’t think Lupe does this. Maybe I’m wrong?

louder 09.26.2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
He was not the last decade’s Kendrick.

When I say technical rapping I’m taking about what Eminem and Kendrick do well — which involves not only the ability to drop bars, but to you with language and rhyme schemes and experiment with meter, all with clever lines and expertly executed raps.

I don’t think Lupe does this. Maybe I’m wrong?

He definitely does man. That's pretty much his main thing.

Severian 09.26.2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
He definitely does man. That's pretty much his main thing.


Not hearing it. Sorry.

He can rap, but he’s no Kendrick. And lyrically, he’s meh.

But I like him. Don’t get me wrong.

“Don’t Stop” and all.

Rob Instigator 09.27.2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
There’s more to making hip-hop music than R-A-Ping.





there is more to the "culture" of Hip Hop that RAPPING, but the Yin/Yang of Hip Hop is RAPPER/DJ. Rapping is the sole reason Hip Hop managed to tie in break boys, club/party DJ's, street culture, and graffitti culture into what is now called HIP HOP


There is very very very little more to Hip Hop THAN RAPPING. RAPPING IS EVERYTHING.


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