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noisereductions 07.30.2013 09:02 PM

how was Yeezus a disappointment?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.30.2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
that's not a good equivalent to anything really. haven't indulged in Jay's new shit and Yeezus was a big disapointment, but comparing them to bad a$$ Hammer is just uncalled for.



 

I know, Hammer must be pissed yo ;)

Severian 07.30.2013 09:40 PM

Yeezus was a disappointment for people who thought it was a disappointment. If they m have it a fair listen, I'm not going to judge.

But I do not agree at all. In fact, I still have it above 12 Reasons..., which is saying a hell of a lot for me. It's nothing like what I expected, and that's awesome. I still can't dig the title really, but I don't think there's a weak track on that album. In other words, maybe it disappointed some people, but I think it won over more. Great album, one of the best of the year.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.31.2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

it sucks. it just fucking sucks.




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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

fact: IT SUCKS!!!! or pretend otherwise.



 

louder 07.31.2013 01:49 AM

yeah, i think that the more interesting part is he said "Lil Wayne is making some great rap records, Nicki Minaj, Ludacris, 50 Cent, Snoop [Dogg] - everybody is making great rap records". haha really?!?! i thought Snoop changed his name to Snoop Lion and started attempting to do reggae?

louder 07.31.2013 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Yeezus was a disappointment for people who thought it was a disappointment. If they m have it a fair listen, I'm not going to judge.

But I do not agree at all. In fact, I still have it above 12 Reasons..., which is saying a hell of a lot for me. It's nothing like what I expected, and that's awesome. I still can't dig the title really, but I don't think there's a weak track on that album. In other words, maybe it disappointed some people, but I think it won over more. Great album, one of the best of the year.

Yeezus still hasn't left the CD player in my car.

my fav tracks are Blood on the Leaves, I'm in It, Guilt Trip, Bound and Black Skinhead.

louder 07.31.2013 01:55 AM

and i'm pretty crazy about the new Weeknd singles.

he's making an album inspired by Portishead and 80's horror/sci-fi classics such as The Thing and Blade Runner = WOW.

he and Drake going to kill it this year just like 2011 all over again.

louder 07.31.2013 02:48 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plF_3x6Hdug

THIS is the best MCHG review ever.

actually, every review this guy does kills me. :D

Severian 07.31.2013 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
i did not like it. it was unpleasurable. boring. stupid. waste of time.

p.s. it sucks. i mean that's my opinion.:rolleyes:

it sucks. it just fucking sucks.


No, that's not a fact. It's a great album. "Hold my Liquor" and "Blpod on the Leaves" absolutely do not suck by any stretch of the imagination. Some of the rhymes are "meh" but that album is solid as hell, and I don't love it because it sucks. I love it because it's a great album... Don't go all hater on
Me now.

Rob Instigator 07.31.2013 10:04 AM

Hard Knock Life - Jay Z.

straight MC HAMMER BULLSHIT

Rob Instigator 07.31.2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
yeah, i think that the more interesting part is he said "Lil Wayne is making some great rap records, Nicki Minaj, Ludacris, 50 Cent, Snoop [Dogg] - everybody is making great rap records". haha really?!?! i thought Snoop changed his name to Snoop Lion and started attempting to do reggae?


Chuck D means "rap" like MC Hammer was "rap" and Vanilla Ice was "rap". As opposed to Hip Hop. he means disposable, dance-friendly, music for the white teens to listen to and think they got soul.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.31.2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Chuck D means "rap" like MC Hammer was "rap" and Vanilla Ice was "rap". As opposed to Hip Hop. he means disposable, dance-friendly, music for the white teens to listen to and think they got soul.


You can't dance to East Coast hip-hop, that shit is all talking and yelling. You can only dance to West-Coast rap, that shit has pure backyard boogie yo!

Rob Instigator 07.31.2013 01:13 PM

MC Hammer was Oaktown. west coast

 

Severian 07.31.2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
yeah, i think that the more interesting part is he said "Lil Wayne is making some great rap records, Nicki Minaj, Ludacris, 50 Cent, Snoop [Dogg] - everybody is making great rap records". haha really?!?! i thought Snoop changed his name to Snoop Lion and started attempting to do reggae?


Niki Manaj can crush it, but she has yet to do so on her own LP. She out-rhymed Jay-Z on "Monster," but sounded like the female Eminem (especially when "barking" with Eminem himself on their terrible little duet).

I still have faith in Wayne. It's said that he has been making such boring production decisions since the iconic Carter III. He is just an amazing rapper, and it would be one hell of a let down if his best days were already behind him.

As for Snoop- the guy has become a stoner culture figurehead. Nobody listens to his music anymore. The last thing I choose to remember is Doggfather. But shit- maybe I'll give Snoop Lion a chance.

(Must admit that I have a soft spot for reggae. Though no one's touched it since my last mushroom trip)

louder 07.31.2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Niki Manaj can crush it, but she has yet to do so on her own LP. She out-rhymed Jay-Z on "Monster," but sounded like the female Eminem (especially when "barking" with Eminem himself on their terrible little duet).

I still have faith in Wayne. It's said that he has been making such boring production decisions since the iconic Carter III. He is just an amazing rapper, and it would be one hell of a let down if his best days were already behind him.

As for Snoop- the guy has become a stoner culture figurehead. Nobody listens to his music anymore. The last thing I choose to remember is Doggfather. But shit- maybe I'll give Snoop Lion a chance.

(Must admit that I have a soft spot for reggae. Though no one's touched it since my last mushroom trip)

i like Nicki but she prefers to be a pop artist.

Luda used to be amazing, but now he'd rather act in Fast & Furious movies and work with.. Justin Bieber?

50 Cent - i miss him. Get Rich or Die Tryin'.. you guys already know how much i like that album. this is one of my fav songs ever - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FhVdohucJ4. plus he still drops a decent track every now and then.

Wayne.. :(.

Snoop Lion sucks.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.31.2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
i like Nicki but she prefers to be a pop artist.


Sighs. While I could careless about Nikki Manaj, I will say this, her embracing entirely of the empty and sterile pop music scene when quite clearly she is something resembling an artist (maybe not musically) is symptomatic of the overall decline in rap and hip hop music in the past 10-15 years. The mainstream killed it so much that rap music is the background for kids shows, they be hip hop on Sesame Street now (and not just in imitation of the Electric Company).. Rap was popular, but artists avoided that pop music suicide where you give in entirely to being just a commodity.

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Ludacris used to be amazing, but now he'd rather act in Fast & Furious movies and work with.. Justin Bieber?

Don't be hating on the Bieb yo.

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50 Cent - i miss him. Get Rich or Die Tryin'.. you guys already know how much i like that album. this is one of my fav songs ever - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FhVdohucJ4. plus he still drops a decent track every now and then.


The guy was terrible, always was terrible, I never knew what the fuck the Game was doing over there, glad he got dissed and came to his westcoast senses.


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Snoop Lion sucks.

He does actually, but lets give him credit. At first this all just looked like some crassly commercial thing, but increasingly it looks sincere, like Snoop is honestly trying to be something affiliated with positive lifestyle of Rastafari, however he is already a marketed image, the marketing baggage comes with Snoop as a package whatever he does, even if he just retired. So I'm going to wait and reserve judgment, both as a Snoop fan since grade school and a card-carrying Rastafari..

louder 07.31.2013 11:49 PM

i love Game. but i wasn't really feeling that Jesus Piece album.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.01.2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
i love Game. but i wasn't really feeling that Jesus Piece album.


No, that album was terrible. He tried way to hard to have this concept album where he bridged the gap between Church and gangsta shit like promiscuous women, drug dealing, and shoot outs. While that worked very very well on tracks like"Let us Live" "Why You Hate the Game" "Walk Thru The Sky" "Letter to the King" "It's OK (One Blood)" "Angel" Truth Rap" are all both conscious, political, and even religious tunes that blend the street vibe authentically, sincerely, and come across as genuine. When Game sat down and tried to write an album that was entirely based on the concept behind tracks like those, it was an epic fail. The only thing fly about that album was the cover art. I mean, the tracks were listenable, but on paper it was supposed to be a bad ass album, like all of those tracks I posted above combined like Vultron. I always liked Game because like Pac he sometimes spoke the real and put out some conscious music blended with Gangsta rap, sort of like how Dead Prez be "revolutionary but G" in proportion.

See I grew up hanging about with a bunch of gangsters, doing a bunch of low-life gangster shit, and so I can relate, but I'm also ridiculously conscious and a man of deep Faith, so I need my music to reflect both at the same time..

Rob Instigator 08.01.2013 08:14 AM

Snoop Lion's reggae music is the worst kind of cliche' sing-songy riddim-wanna-be bullshit.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.01.2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Snoop Lion's reggae music is the worst kind of cliche' sing-songy riddim-wanna-be bullshit.


It is. Its terrible in fact. But I think he was trying, albeit not hard enough ;)


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