Every page of this thread discusses tons of different types of movies....

This thread is cool (minus the horror)

FOLLOWING is an absolute masterpiece. Memento is cool, though there's a really stupid part near the end that makes no sense. His INSOMNIA remake is nice too.

the gauntlet - 7/10

Hilarious film.,

haha you rule Derek

Derek rules (minus the .... well, Derek just rules).

well i've seen none of them.

btw nolan is just an idiot. he ruined inception by making it into an action movie about rich city executives and their bland world.

he should have been slapped in the face and told - do it again, but you can only use guns in a few scenes and only for a few seconds.

how amazing would that movie have been if instead of running around shooting they had to pyschologically manipulate their way through?

Well, I mean, Nolan -- the real Nolan -- is the guy who made Following, and -- to some extent -- Memento. Every other Nolan film has had some kind of studio interference and shit -- I mean, you can't make some psychological mindfuck with DiCraprio starring, no studio is going to give $200 million dollars and say "Here, make something that only like 5 people will enjoy."

That being said, I was surprised by how clever and intelligent the movie was, even when it kinda turned into a crappy action flick near the end. The movie is a bit too long, and it never quite reaches the heights of its first hour (astounding visuals like the train in the city, the manipulation of reality, and such). Still, Nolan is a studio director, working for the studio system, and the studio ultimately is what approves/gives money to/releases/etc movies, so there has to be some spin on it to make it accessible to all audiences, not just us.

It's a brilliant mainstream film, certainly the best mainstream film of the year next to Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (which did seem to cater only to a specific audience, which is why it's one of the biggest flops of all time, despite being insanely clever and brilliant)... but yeah, I definitely agree that it kinda falls apart near the end. But that didn't surprise me -- what surprised was how GREAT most of it was.

As for Stephen King's film adaptations... uhhhh... I guess Shawshank Redemption and the Dead Zone are great. The Shining isn't too bad. Surprised you didn't list any of those, Joe. Most of King film adaptations suck, though, or are just silly. THINNER is entertaining, surprisingly, they change a lot from the book. I think the Green Mile is a terrible film, so ridiculous, and MAUDLIN. How can people praise that film and insult something like (the equally godawful) Patch Adams? Both are "Feel-good" crapfests! I'll tell you one really underrated King movie, GRAVEYARD SHIFT.



I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in the world who likes this movie, but indeed I do. Great atmosphere, dark as hell... the whole film is these rednecks cleaning out this sloppy lair of rats and shit... just weird. Weird movie.

If you want to see the absolute worst in King adaptations, check out MANGLER 2



This is truly one of the worst movies ever made, though it's fucking hilarious. Yes, King didn't really have anything to do with it, just the first Mangler -- which was quite bad too -- but still. Check it out!

I was just listing off my favorite post-Shining, King adaptations. ni'k you should get around to checking at least a couple of those out. Especially Pet Sematary, which I personally like even more than The Shining.

I haven't seen the sequel to The Mangler, but I can only imagine how awful it must be. I was surprised at how bad the first one was. Stephen King, Tobe Hooper, Robert Englund... and it was dreadful! I think maybe Hooper and Englund have bad luck together, have you ever seen Night Terrors? Ugggh.

You know what I SHOULD have mentioned though?

FUCKING LAWNMOWER MAN!!

hwut??? It was pretty good. But yr stretching.

really? You liked 1408? My wife did too. I just didnt really think it was that great.

I'm the one guy that really liked Dreamcatcher. Haha.

^nice gag.

I thought it was fantastic! I do have a total soft spot for John Cusack though.

Has anyone seen Night Flier? That one has always caught my eye, but I've never gotten around to checking it out.

I like Cusak too. But I dont know. I didn't hate it. Just didnt love it.

I'm the same way on Night Flier. I'll see it at some point.

I always forget Lawnmower Man is a Stephen King film. Er, wait..


The plot of Stephen King's 1975 short story "The Lawnmower Man" concerns Harold Parkette, who hires "Pastoral Greenery and Outdoor Services Inc." to cut his lawn. The serviceman who arrives to do the job has a lawnmower that mows the lawn by itself while he crawls, naked, behind the mower, eating the grass. The serviceman himself is actually a satyr who worships the Greek god Pan. When Parkette tries to call the police, the mower and its owner ritually kill him as a sacrifice to Pan.
The film's original script, written by director Brett Leonard and producer Gimel Everett, was titled Cyber God and had nothing to do with King's short story. New Line Cinema held the film rights to King's story, and decided to combine Cyber God with some minor elements of King's "The Lawnmower Man". The resulting film, originally titled Stephen King's The Lawnmower Man, differed so much from the source material that King sued the filmmakers to remove his name from the title.
After two court rulings in King's favor, New Line still did not comply and initially released the home video version as Stephen King's The Lawnmower Man. A third ruling granted the author $10,000 per day in compensation and all profits derived from sales until his name was removed.[3] On King's official website, the film is not listed among the films based on his work. The Lawnmower Man was released in Japan under the title Virtual Wars; Fuji Creative's Masao Takiyama is also credited as a co-producer.

yeah it's totally not a King film. Haha. The story is awesome though. I mean his story. The film is um. Funny.

Eh. Pierce Brosnan sucks. If I wanna watch Jeff Fahey, I'll watch Body Parts.

Body Parts is great.

Rented "Dial M for Murder" from Netflix just last week and got a scratched up copy, now I'm watching it on Turner Classic Movies.

pretty awesome thai film

chasing amy - 7/10

Pretty cool movie. Love how trashy, sloppy, and nasty it is... kinda felt like Smith was trying to sabotage his own career, in a way. I mean, the film flat-out feels WRONG at times, yet it works. At the same time, it feels REAL -- something I can't say for any of his other films (even the other 2 I like). It feels like Smith putting all his cards on the table -- really opening up, putting himself out there. It felt personal. And it's fascinating. Oh, and Jay and Silent Bob aren't in it for a while (and when they show up, they get a great scene). So, that's definitely a plus, they are the worst characters ever. Jason Mewes is just a talentless heroin addict. Anyway -- made for like a FIFTIETH of the budget of Dogma... and this is 5000000 times better! Haha! Anyway, I watched it like 10 years ago and thought it was garbage, but now, I really dig it. It's not nearly as annoying as Smith's films after this one! It actually seemed to have a heart, something I can't say for any of Smith's films. Here's all my Kevin Smith ratings:

clerks - 9/10
mallrats - 8/10
chasing amy - 7/10
dogma - 3/10
jay and silent bob strikes back - 2/10
jersey girl - 3/10
clerks 2 - 4/10
zack and miri - 6/10
cop out - 5/10

related:
vulgar - 7/10
drawing flies - 5/10
a better place - 7/10


Re-watched

Hudson Hawk - 8/10

This is a great film. It's fucking hilarious! Why would anyone dislike this movie? "The last time you saw me, I had a bald head, a moustache, and a fake nose." Hahaha! All the singing, dancing... David Caruso's mime character painted like a statue. Hilarious film. So absurd. My favorite part has to be when Hudson Hawk is falling from a building and it cuts to him falling into some guy's chair. Obviously supposed to be completely different scenes in completely different times, but they got all elliptical -- which apparently confused Roger Ebert, even though it's supposed to just be a comedic cut! There's no deeper meaning in it, or the rest of the movie -- it's just fucking funny! I'm just not sure why great films like this, and LEONARD PART 6 -- absurd surreal comedic masterpieces -- are so overlooked and underappreciated. Awesome movies!

I like Zack and Miri. The gross out comedy/romance stories definitely get me.

I liked it too. I didn't think it was funny at all, but at least it didn't annoy me or bore me like most of his stuff.

These are cool:

8/10

A solid effort.

clerks - 9/10
mallrats - 8/10
chasing amy - 8/10
dogma - 8/10
jay and silent bob strikes back - 4/10
jersey girl - didn't bother to see it/10
clerks 2 - 7.5/10
zack and miri - 7/10
cop out - 5/10

related:
vulgar - 8/10
drawing flies - ?/10
a better place - ?/10

I love Smith.

I hate Smith. But I like 3 of his films. Most of his filmography is some of the worst shit ever made. I guess his film company dropped him or something, so he won't be able to make his "horror movie"? Can you imagine a Kevin Smith horror movie? Ugh.

Kevin Smith is one of my favorite directors of all time (in my top 10 or so) and CLERKS. is one of my favorite movies. It would be hard for me to give a bad rating to any of his movies, even though Cop Out was really disappointing (well, he has an excuse, he didn't write it). I think he's not an AMAZING director, he's just fine at directing but what makes him so great is the writing. I mean, look at Clerks: the dialogue, the situations, the jokes... Everything is 100% pure gold and quotable as hell ! This guy is even really funny in real life ! Has anyone seen "An Evening With Kevin Smith" ? That's probably one of the funniest things he has ever done.

Clerks. 10/10
Mallrats 9/10
Chasing Amy 9/10
Dogma 8/10
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back 8/10
Jersey Girl 6/10
Clerks II 9/10
Zack and Miri Make a Porno 8/10
Cop Out 5/10

Also, Adam, I agree with you about Hudson Hawk, I can't believe how underrated it is, seriously... It's really THAT funny !

I've seen part of Evening with Kevin Smith 2... and then I realized it was 4 hours long and promptly turned it off. All the people asking him questions were just trying to be "cool", anyway. EVERYONE was trying to out-clever each other. Smith talks too much, too.

Clerks was good, but mainly because the actors were amazing, long unbroken uncut conversations -- great stuff. Reminds me a lot of SLACKER -- those superinteresting tales in the superlong takes. Smith is a decent dialogue writer, but tends to go overboard with the in-jokes, homages, parodies, etc. Some of his stuff is almost as bad as Family Guy. I had more fun watching the silly Cop Out than something like Dogma, which deeply offends me (not the religious aspect, mind you, I mean the quality of the film). Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back I've accepted as a film 'for fans only' and since I absolutely HATE those character with all my heart, it's no wonder I hate that film with a passion. He' not the worst director in the world but I highly doubt he'll do anything half as good as those first 3 films again.

Minor trivia: GIRLS AGAINST BOYS are on the soundtrack to Clerks AND Mallrats. And, in fact, that's one of the main reasons I saw Clerks -- I've always been a big GvsB fan, and my friend had the Clerks soundtrack, I was like "whoa! Neat! A soundtrack with GvsB AND Jesus Lizard! Ohh!" so I said "what the hell?" and decided to watch it. It's probably the only time I've ever watched a film because the soundtrack was cool.

I think An evening with Kevin Smith 2 is really funny but it looks more like a stand-up comedy show, whereas the first one is more of an actual Q&A thing and he says really interesting stuff, like the time he had to work with Prince or when he was supposed to write a Superman movie, etc. Very funny stuff !

Yeah, I've heard all about his Superman script... there's a giant spider in it... hah. I'm sure his version of the film would've been better than that awful film that eventually ended up coming out.

Chasing Amy was always one of my favorite Smith flicks.

clerks - 4/5
mallrats - 4/5
chasing amy - 4/5
dogma - 2/5
jay and silent bob strikes back - 1/5
jersey girl - 3/5
clerks 2 - 4/5
zack and miri - 4/5
cop out - WTF is this?

^that's the Fred Dekker one right?

ni'k is right. This was pretty good. Not sure if I'd consider it the best King adaptation since The Shining though.

8/10

The first Evening With Kevin Smith is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the 2nd. Watch it on YouTube or something, Adam. It's worth your time.

4 hours of Kevin Smith worth my time? Hmm.

BTW, I watched Play Dead, per your reccomendation. Uhhhhhhhhh.... yeeeeeeeeeeeeah... haha.

5/10

jackass 3d .

i lol'd.

'the volcano' skit is ridiculous, and you'lll likely hear about it