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atsonicpark 01.18.2011 05:33 PM

and yeah I think serial mom and cecil b demented are two of waters best films. Though my fav. wil always be MULTIPLE MANIACS

noisereductions 01.18.2011 07:46 PM

I liked Human Centipede. More because I thought it was better than the shit it could have been. I mean the idea of it just could have been cheap. But instead it was pretty aware it was meant to just be a b-movie and went more mad scientist route instead of just ewww-throw-up route. Shit was amusing to me.

deflinus 01.18.2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
and yeah I think serial mom and cecil b demented are two of waters best films. Though my fav. wil always be MULTIPLE MANIACS



cecil b demented? really? i saw it and i was less than impressed. serial mom is a classic waters film though

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.18.2011 08:28 PM

Cecil B. Demented gets much better with repeated viewings. It's actually sort of inspiring, in an incredibly lofty sense.

Human Centipede wasn't bad at all. The opening tracking shot made me very nostalgic for my exploitation favs. I thought parts of it were absolutely hilarious, like the much over-exposed-due-to-the-internet diagram of the medical process. Also any part that involved one of the links shitting into the other's mouth... I live for that kinda stuff - sadly enough. *SPOILER ALERT* Especially the Asian man's 'death shit' *END SPOILER* That part had me dying.

The writing was so/so, as was the acting, and I saw the ending coming from a mile away... but that's just typical b-movie fare. I think what I really liked most about it was that I had 2 friends, who normally detest this kind of schlock, or anything with subtitles, showing me this incredibly schlocky film with all kinds of subtitles. Like I said in my initial comment, I really appreciate that something like this broke into the eye of the mainstream. I remember reading about it on BloodyDisgusting way before it came out, and would have never dreamed it would've become such a well-known flick.

deflinus 01.18.2011 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Cecil B. Demented gets much better with repeated viewings. It's actually sort of inspiring, in an incredibly lofty sense.


i guess i could see it that way. last time i saw it was years ago and i just don't remember it being all that great. of course this was during a time where i was sort of obsessed with his films.

have you seen Pecker? i've never met anyone who has seen it before and i'm wondering what other people think of it. i enjoyed it

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.19.2011 12:12 AM

Pecker's alright, it's a little bland for a Waters film. But if you're a fan, you should still appreciate it somewhat. The jokes that make fun of art snobs work well enough, and the talking Virgin Mary statue gag, though not as funny (to me) as it was intended to be, was at least memorable. Edward Furlong and Christina Ricci both give pretty strong performances, but for some reason a lot of the delivery just seems off. Definitely not one of his best flicks, but I'd still pick it up if I found a cheap copy of the DVD somewhere. It's worthy of a download, to say the least.

TheDom 01.19.2011 01:39 AM

 

Everyone else hated it but I thought it was pretty awesome.

deflinus 01.19.2011 01:58 AM

 


i laughed my ass off. plain and simple. i need to see michael keaton in more comedies. he's getting old as fuck too

LifeDistortion 01.19.2011 03:29 AM

 



For the first time.

atsonicpark 01.19.2011 06:54 AM

Pecker's very bland. I don't like A Dirty Shame at all either.

diegobra 01.19.2011 11:25 AM

Alfred Hitchcock's The Rope

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.19.2011 01:40 PM


 


Boy, did they fuck this one up. It's a lot like the original, except with less than 10% of the first film's charm. Robert Englund's absence from this picture is the least of it's multiple problems. Not one character is anywhere near as likable as their counterpart in the original film (to be fair, the new Nancy wasn't that bad), Freddy's new backstory was unnecessary, and having a recently killed character's girlfriend fall asleep and have a nightmare AT HIS FUNERAL is unforgivably sloppy writing. Any classic moment from the original that they attempted to recreate through CGI turned out shoddily, and hardly 25% as effective. This film left a bad taste in my mouth, and I think I may have even hated it more than Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare.


 


While not as dreadful as 2010's NOES, or Rob Zombie's potty-mouthed attempt at recreating the Halloween series, 2009's Friday the 13th suffers from one fatal flaw: they fucked up Jason. Instead of being a near-invincible mongoloid who's only thought is, "KILL, KILL, KILL...", now Jason Voorhees is a skilled woodsman who not only runs around Crystal Lake killing teenagers, but he even sets traps, and shoots arrows too!

There was enough fuss over the zombies running in the Dawn of the Dead remake, but can you imagine if they laid down bear traps, and shot guns as well? It really makes you wonder if the filmmakers even began to understand what set Jason Voorhees apart from other slasher villains. NOTE TO MICHAEL BAY: IT'S MORE THAN JUST A HOCKEY MASK.

I did appreciate the early tribute to the potato sack mask in F13: Part II though, and some of the stoner jokes made me smirk, but the black guy was beyond annoying. Is there anything more token black guy than having your black character constantly bitch about how he's not the token black guy?

It's a real shame that they couldn't get any of the major slasher remakes right.

noisereductions 01.19.2011 02:11 PM

I liked the F13 remake. Actually Jason in this one seems very similar to Jason in F13 pt 2 Joe. Remember? He was a human. he had that shack and everything? He used a lot of tools to kill with. I think it came out waaaaaay better than I expected. And it's fun enough.

demonrail666 01.19.2011 02:19 PM

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For the first time.


What did you think of it?

demonrail666 01.19.2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
and yeah I think serial mom and cecil b demented are two of waters best films. Though my fav. wil always be MULTIPLE MANIACS


I've not seen all of Waters' later films but those I have seen always remind me of just how much he relied on Divine's persona. Even some of the earlier films that didn't include him (Desperate Living) seem to lack a kind of centre. I'm sure Waters would be the first to admit that Divine was irreplaceable but I wonder if he realises just how much. And not just Divine. David Lochary too, and Edith Massey, and Cookie Mueller - all of whom were just as integral to the success of films like Pink Flamingos and Female Trouble as Waters was, and arguably even Divine. Now we have the likes of Johnny Knoxville, which hardly compares. IMHO.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.19.2011 02:52 PM


 

American Psycho

so I finally saw this flick, not bad at all! But I'm not sure, was this film really a facetious analysis of the sociopath mentality of the Wall Street in the Ronald Reagan era? Even deeper, was it just a cap on Ronald Reagan himself, a suit and tie, fashionable, old money-oriented, 80s yuppie with a veil and facade of normality and yet under the plastic surface of style and trendiness lies a true and absolute murderous monster? Are all brokers and traders and politicians really murderous sociopaths? I mean, their lives result in just as much senseless violence across the world, but it is a bit more under the covers, veiled behind their artificial lifestyles? At least thats how I felt, especially with that ending focusing on Reagan's contra scandal speech. All these guys are murders hiding behind nice suits and a high-dollar lifestyle, but I think this was showing perhaps an extreme variant there of? Several African films of the 1970s played on this exact theme, pointing out the ostentatious wealth and plastic lifestyles of the wealthy and elite in African political/economic sphere as a kind of mask giving false legitimacy and a hiding place from all the blinding and hopeless violence perpetrated by their reckless decisions..

noisereductions 01.19.2011 04:01 PM

American Psycho is a 5/5 for me. Or 10/10 or whatever. I've seen it easily over 50 times. It's one of my favorites.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.19.2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
American Psycho is a 5/5 for me. Or 10/10 or whatever. I've seen it easily over 50 times. It's one of my favorites.


so would you agree with my interpretation? Is it all just a commentary on the flaws and sociopath tendencies of Reaganomics?

atsonicpark 01.19.2011 05:19 PM

8 1/2 is one of the best movies ever.

American Psycho is a pretty hilarious film. The sequel is so awful though.

atsonicpark 01.19.2011 05:22 PM

 

freak orlando - 5/10

demonrail666 01.19.2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Is it all just a commentary on the flaws and sociopath tendencies of Reaganomics?


Insofar as Brett Easton Ellis appears incapable of writing anything else, I imagine so.

atsonicpark 01.19.2011 06:38 PM

Right on.

I watched Less than Zero last week actually. I just kinda shrugged.

noisereductions 01.19.2011 07:15 PM

yes he's a one-trick pony. But I love it. I've read most of his books, seen all his movie adaptations.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.19.2011 09:13 PM

 

a-p a. niemi 01.20.2011 04:27 AM

 

Pelle 01.20.2011 07:46 AM

Funny People.

Not so very funny. I usually love Adam Sandler.
Seth Rogen saved this one.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.20.2011 08:09 AM

 



Blair Witch 2

Not exactly the most well-made film, but this was surprisingly effective and unnerving. I definitely would've lost Jeff's pointless mental asylum backstory, and not have made the ghost of the little girl look so silly. Other than that though, this really creeped me out - which very few horror films actually do. An unexpected treat.

sonic sphere 01.20.2011 08:28 AM

 

noisereductions 01.20.2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
 



Blair Witch 2

Not exactly the most well-made film, but this was surprisingly effective and unnerving. I definitely would've lost Jeff's pointless mental asylum backstory, and not have made the ghost of the little girl look so silly. Other than that though, this really creeped me out - which very few horror films actually do. An unexpected treat.



this movie is actually a lot better than people assume. It's obviously not like the original, but I think they did a really good job with it. Also that redhead that gets naked.

EVOLghost 01.20.2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
this movie is actually a lot better than people assume. It's obviously not like the original, but I think they did a really good job with it. Also that redhead that gets naked.



lol

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.20.2011 09:23 AM

Oh yeah, I really liked her...uhhh... performance. Same goes for the goth girl, even though she didn't get as naked.

noisereductions 01.20.2011 09:55 AM

the redhead I've seen in other stuff. But she wasn't a redhead.

keep poppin pimples 01.20.2011 10:04 AM

 

6/10

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.20.2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

American Psycho is a pretty hilarious film. The sequel is so awful though.


The first one is borderline b movie enough, what could honestly be expected of the sequel considering the horror movie tradition of crap?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.20.2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic sphere


this is such a great film, and what sucks most of all, is how realistic is actually was (and remains unfortunately)


"so you bought the bottle of beer at 11 o clocl.. so you say you bought the bottle of beer at 12 o c clock.. you know you done fucked up right?"


 

tw2113 01.21.2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous



 

American Psycho

so I finally saw this flick, not bad at all! But I'm not sure, was this film really a facetious analysis of the sociopath mentality of the Wall Street in the Ronald Reagan era? Even deeper, was it just a cap on Ronald Reagan himself, a suit and tie, fashionable, old money-oriented, 80s yuppie with a veil and facade of normality and yet under the plastic surface of style and trendiness lies a true and absolute murderous monster? Are all brokers and traders and politicians really murderous sociopaths? I mean, their lives result in just as much senseless violence across the world, but it is a bit more under the covers, veiled behind their artificial lifestyles? At least thats how I felt, especially with that ending focusing on Reagan's contra scandal speech. All these guys are murders hiding behind nice suits and a high-dollar lifestyle, but I think this was showing perhaps an extreme variant there of? Several African films of the 1970s played on this exact theme, pointing out the ostentatious wealth and plastic lifestyles of the wealthy and elite in African political/economic sphere as a kind of mask giving false legitimacy and a hiding place from all the blinding and hopeless violence perpetrated by their reckless decisions..


Wrong screenshot from the movie though. That's a shot from this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPuaqGZGro

which I find to be quite a nice cover of a great Talking Heads song.

Torn Curtain 01.21.2011 06:23 AM

We are four lions.

I think it's just OK (even if the film is supposed to be satire I have trouble imagining terrorists to be that stupid - I expected something deeper than that).

sonic sphere 01.21.2011 07:40 AM

 

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.21.2011 08:39 AM

 

atsonicpark 01.21.2011 09:03 AM

INSOMNIA '97 - 9/10
 


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