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Originally Posted by tw2113

Pointless interjection, Kyrsten can have my phone number any time she wants.

^ see what i mean? leaving aside her politics, she's the worst kind of stereotype about every "quirky" and "edgy" middle aged woman.

I'm just thinking with my private parts here.

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Originally Posted by tw2113

I'm just thinking with my private parts here.

From Fareed Zakaria's newsletter:

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Brexit: Done?

In 2019, Boris Johnson won the job of UK prime minister on a campaign slogan of “Get Brexit Done.” Has current Prime Minister Rishi Sunak just achieved it?

The UK and EU agreed on Monday—pending a vote in Britain’s Parliament, promised by Sunak—to alter the so-called “Northern Ireland protocol,” a major point of tension over Brexit’s finalized form. That had established a customs border in the Irish Sea, which separates the island of Great Britain from Northern Ireland, as an alternative to establishing such a border on land, between UK-member-nation Northern Ireland and EU-member-country Ireland. (The issue remains contentious and has raised fears of violence. Whether there should be any border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, after all, was the subject of a civil war and a decades-long insurgency known as the Troubles.)

As the Financial Times explains in detail, the newly agreed-to “Windsor Framework” would sort goods flowing from Britain to Northern Ireland into “red” and “green” channels, based on the likelihood they’d end up in Ireland (and thus within the EU). The former category would be checked before entering Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK. “Parcels to friends or family (in Northern Ireland) and online deliveries from Great Britain will not require customs paperwork,” the paper writes, “ending another significant source of aggravation for Northern Ireland residents. Businesses using approved parcel carriers will have simplified customs procedures.”

The deal is being celebrated by many. The Economist urges support for it, noting a dearth of workable alternatives from “(h)ardline Tory MPs.” At CNN Business, Hanna Ziady reports potential economic benefits, as the existing arrangement has “upended supply chains (and) raised costs for businesses.” In an editorial, the Financial Times calls this “a significant moment for post-Brexit Britain.” The New Statesman’s Andrew Marr declares, “Rishi Sunak has become Prime Minister. I exaggerate, but only slightly.”

Or, Not So Fast?

Not everyone is wowed. In a Telegraph op-ed, Sherelle Jacobs argues the deal enshrines “Northern Ireland’s fate as a vassal state of Brussels,” as the EU will retain a say over how all of this is put into practice, and thus over Northern Ireland’s trade policies. The Spectator’s Freddy Gray lampoons the uncertainty (and the history of wooden jargon surrounding Brexit), arguing for instance that a so-called “Stormont brake”—included in the new deal to give Northern Ireland’s devolved government a chance to reject EU mandates—might or might not be so meaningful, in practice. Multiple observers have cautioned that it’s not clear whether Brexiteer MPs and Northern Ireland’s top unionist party will line up behind the deal, as the details are examined more fully. The New Statesman’s Marr notes warily the bitterness that any Irish Sea border could incur from unionist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland.

Still, some who back the deal hope it will deliver the UK from a miasmic political era dominated by Brexit and its aftermath—along with, they hope, broader geopolitical windfalls.

“With luck, the deal may yet begin a normalisation of UK-EU relations, and of UK politics,” the FT writes in its editorial. The Economist offers similar sentiments, writing that the new deal “paves the way for much improved UK-EU relations. … It should bolster security and foreign-policy co-operation, something that matters more since (Russian President) Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Better relations with France could boost bilateral co-operation to deter migrants crossing the channel in small boats. And the deal would do much to repair Britain’s relations with America, whose president cares deeply about peace in Northern Ireland.”

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

From Fareed Zakaria's newsletter:

boris just came out against this "windsor framework", because of course.

reported 2h ago by the ft

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

boris just came out against this "windsor framework", because of course.

Maybe because it didn't occur to him? ;):D

"Achieving Brexit".

Lol.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Maybe because it didn't occur to him? ;):D

who knows. trying to stay relevant by stirring up shit without offering any actual solutions, i guess?

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Originally Posted by Skuj

"Achieving Brexit".

Lol.

anything they could do to diminish the damage of their own stupidity would be a good thing.

cutting your nose to spite your face: a tried-and-true recipe for the ages!

their next genius move: sticking one's dick into a nest of wasps. for science!

anyway see if this link works for you: https://www.economist.com/britain/20...exit-in-charts

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...lance-footage/

In a perfect world, this would be McCarthy's first huge blunder and he would pay dearly for it.

But.......

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Originally Posted by Skuj

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...lance-footage/

In a perfect world, this would be McCarthy's first huge blunder and he would pay dearly for it.

But.......

yeah and that wasn't just "access", it was *exclusive* access given to this little fucking goebbels apprentice.

but this isn't gonna be the end of it. this may not be a perfect world, but everybody else isn't just gonna do nothing like a moron. there will be a response.

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and now here for a bit of fun...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...orce-rcna73451

overdue i think, it should have happened years ago

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oh, and this here tweet is where those 2 subjects merge:

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/statu...300003329?s=20

The Conways. Just your typical, well-adjusted American family. Coming soon on Nickelodeon.

And in CPAC news (one of those Cs must stand for "crazy"), who won the president and vice president polls? Ron Oversized Jacket and Darling Nikki? Nope, it was you-know-who and... Kari Lake! ROUND THREE IS COMING.

I never could figure out how the Conways were together.

And I think the C is for cunt.

trying to watch powell testify before congress, and i can't fucking believe the level of imbecility of so many grandstanding congress members trying to get powell to agree with their idiotic speeches.

jd vance wants to give up the reserve status of the dollar so that appalachians can "make things." ��

and lizzie warren wants to have her cake and eat it too and scold powell like an angry schoolmarm while she does it.

i hate everyone of these people hahahahha. please put some grownups in charge.

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oh here comes motormouth sinema... is she on coke?

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

oh here comes motormouth sinema... is she on coke?

Actually, I think that's Greene, sorry.

Wow.

McCarthy gives Fucker Carlson the tapes.

Fucker does what he does.

And then.....

Bipartisan outrage!!! (Well....some Repukes, anyway.)

Sometimes I have some faith in America!!!

Will McCarthy pay a price now??

(Carville is right: McCarthy is the DUMBEST Speaker ever.)

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Will McCarthy pay a price now??

No. Who's gonna police him - the Republican-controlled House? He's Drumpf's designated Speaker.

Electoral defeats after electoral defeats after electoral defeats: the only thing that will take power away from Trumpism.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Electoral defeats after electoral defeats after electoral defeats: the only thing that will take power away from Trumpism.

YEEEEEEES.

but there are also donors and grassroots operations and lawyers and legislators and a whole universe of political operations around all that, including of course (haha, i almost forgot to mention them) voters (and their media channels).

and i guess one has to keep an eye on the suburban voter and the youth turnout, because that's what made a difference last time, plus some other critical constituencies that need to deliver the goods.

in light of the progressive take on the fed lately, is there anyone around willing to discuss mmt a bit?