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pepper_green 10.27.2016 08:46 PM


they should break up the band and become school teachers instead. they do really make shitty ass music. like a modern punk rock Black Flag on XTC recording for an after school special retro "don't do drug kids" vibe capitalizing on their prison time.

ugh! stupid ass band. Green Day is pretty cool compared to them.

pepper_green 10.27.2016 08:59 PM

they should change their name to Pussy Tussle. or Weak Cat Fight incorp.

evollove 10.28.2016 06:24 AM

The fascist carrot is at 17.8%.

What have you done today to combat evil?

ilduclo 10.28.2016 10:20 AM

one of my real dissapoints on this cycle is the change in Wikileaks. What had a good beginning and a reasonably balanced exposure model is now apparently owned by the right wing. And this is bad, especially because there is so much more venality and corruption on the right. If they'd spent any effort whatsoever, we'd have a lot less military-industrial crime and overall economic malfeasance.

Severian 10.28.2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
you do realize some people are ACTUAL assholes?! that's your fairy lib optimistic brain with a tic prob. hate is more than enough of a powerful motivator for some people.

teams seem Nazi. I like sitting on the bleachers watching while dabbling in this and that/political ideals and opinions. variety is the spice of life.


Yeah, I realize that. Did you happen to see my posts about hearing my neighbors joke about murdering "niggers" by putting them through woodchippers? Or the trend in my area of hanging massive confederate flags on trucks? Yes. I get that people are assholes.

But I also get that "America" means something to people. Even (dare I say especially assholes), and I think the crowd that Trump is appealing to would genuinely dislike the idea of having the leader of their country be a former reality show star -- the absolute zenith of American tackiness and idiocy.

I'm not saying they won't vote for him, I'm just saying I hope they have a "gut check" where they ask themselves if it's worth it.

ilduclo 10.28.2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove


What have you done today to combat evil?


we're cooking chicken burritos for our Democrat volunteer staff. (and we get to eat some, too);)

!@#$%! 10.28.2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
You may recall my earlier thread: US Bottom-Tier Shoppers Too Poor To Shop (available at: http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...d.php?t=113252

Well, here's another example as to why white folks seem to be in a pre-revolutionary situation right now:

maybe white folks are stupid and want to eat in restaurants all day

i see that all the time with people who claim to be "poor"

breakfast at macdonalds
lunch at wendy's
dinner at panda express or whatever shit

result: malnourished obese and broke

me, i just came back from walmart with a giant 15lb brisket for $30

it's a fatty cut, so a lot will melt, but that's enough for 2 to eat all week + a sunday BBQ feast

you can't fix stupid.

i mean, i see people with food stamps buying chips and colas.

and you wonder why people die earlier. ha ha ha ha.

_tunic_ 10.29.2016 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
a sunday BBQ feast

what was your address again? I'm going to invite myself. :)
What I possibly most like of the US is the meat you can buy at the supermarkets. In Europe it's simply impossible to find.

Anyway, Trump is doing very well these days. Here's what I read just now:
Someone Was Actually Arrested For In-Person Voter Fraud. She's A Trump Supporter.

 




and


Trump Calls Black Supporter 'Thug,' Throws Him Out Of Rally

dead_battery 10.29.2016 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
maybe white folks are stupid and want to eat in restaurants all day

i see that all the time with people who claim to be "poor"

breakfast at macdonalds
lunch at wendy's
dinner at panda express or whatever shit

result: malnourished obese and broke

me, i just came back from walmart with a giant 15lb brisket for $30

it's a fatty cut, so a lot will melt, but that's enough for 2 to eat all week + a sunday BBQ feast

you can't fix stupid.

i mean, i see people with food stamps buying chips and colas.

and you wonder why people die earlier. ha ha ha ha.


what you fail to understand is that every white person is a unique individual on the cusp of becoming an ultra rich celebrity so things like eating healthy with relatives and friends are beneath us. all white people can lose weight, become rich and look like a jpeg if we just apply our mental energy and there are deep mechanisms of shame and denial to keep us in line when we don't. it's all working out great. you just need to be more positive. life is about ENJOYMENT! TAKE SOME PILLS AND SHUT UP!

!@#$%! 10.29.2016 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
what you fail to understand is that every white person is a unique individual on the cusp of becoming an ultra rich celebrity so things like eating healthy with relatives and friends are beneath us. all white people can lose weight, become rich and look like a jpeg if we just apply our mental energy and there are deep mechanisms of shame and denial to keep us in line when we don't. it's all working out great. you just need to be more positive. life is about ENJOYMENT! TAKE SOME PILLS AND SHUT UP!

i don't understand what you're saying. i mean i do parts but not the whole point (the pills, ect). ETA: oh i think i do now. [entertainment+fictional status] > survival, for the entitled set? if so, i agree.

i was just trying to show schunk that 'merica is still a land of plenty if people just know where to look. this is why an immigrant can feed a family of 6 on 50 bucks a week while entitled aspirationals claim that it's impossible to live on $40k/yr and rural schools can't fill teacher positions with salaries like that. so they are actually bringing foreigners to do the job.

[eta: this is from a very conservative website, pre-trump days: http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...acher-shortage ]

but instead of saying "oh look at these clever immigrants, i'm gonna adapt to my situation and and copy them" now they say "bad hombres, rapist drug dealers, trump make america great again" and "there are no jobs for white men"

i mean once i was helping this friend work on a project he couldn't afford to pay me. he'd show up at my house every morning with a bag of mcdonalds breakfast. i'm looking at his junk food thinking "that's worth at least 2 dozen eggs, and this is why he can't afford to pay me". it takes 1 minute to microwave a fucking egg that cost 10 cents.

another night i call him to discuss some details of his project but he's in a bar drunk. can't talk on the phone.

but i had to wait 6 months for my nominal fee because he's "broke."

lol

broke is sooooo relative.

!@#$%! 10.29.2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
what was your address again? I'm going to invite myself. :)
What I possibly most like of the US is the meat you can buy at the supermarkets. In Europe it's simply impossible to find.

well this is a big country with a lot of land, so there is a lot of cattle. you could come if trump lets you!

i like cheap meat cuts-- well prepared, they're the tastiest

pork is even cheaper btw. $1.50/lb at the right store. i roasted a pork shoulder last week, juicy and magnificent.

the week before that i went on a wednesday (when sales are on) and got a massive butt roast for $8. it was like, 12 lbs. i couldn't stop laughing. made some awesome carnitas and still have some frozen. beef is a splurge!

dead_battery 10.29.2016 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i don't understand what you're saying. i mean i do parts but not the whole point (the pills, ect). ETA: oh i think i do now. [entertainment+fictional status] > survival, for the entitled set? if so, i agree.

i was just trying to show schunk that 'merica is still a land of plenty if people just know where to look. this is why an immigrant can feed a family of 6 on 50 bucks a week while entitled aspirationals claim that it's impossible to live on $40k/yr and rural schools can't fill teacher positions with salaries like that. so they are actually bringing foreigners to do the job.

[eta: this is from a very conservative website, pre-trump days: http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...acher-shortage ]

but instead of saying "oh look at these clever immigrants, i'm gonna adapt to my situation and and copy them" now they say "bad hombres, rapist drug dealers, trump make america great again" and "there are no jobs for white men"

i mean once i was helping this friend work on a project he couldn't afford to pay me. he'd show up at my house every morning with a bag of mcdonalds breakfast. i'm looking at his junk food thinking "that's worth at least 2 dozen eggs, and this is why he can't afford to pay me". it takes 1 minute to microwave a fucking egg that cost 10 cents.

another night i call him to discuss some details of his project but he's in a bar drunk. can't talk on the phone.

but i had to wait 6 months for my nominal fee because he's "broke."

lol

broke is sooooo relative.


my point is to try and illustrate the dynamics of the decadent white mind.

ask yourself what the outcome would have been if you grew up in a situation were basically everyone was like your friend or worse.

lot of white people burnt themselves out chasing simulacric gold, fleeing from the very reality that immigrants are an uncomfortable reminder of

!@#$%! 10.29.2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
my point is to try and illustrate the dynamics of the decadent white mind.

ask yourself what the outcome would have been if you grew up in a situation were basically everyone was like your friend or worse.

lot of white people burnt themselves out chasing simulacric gold, fleeing from the very reality that immigrants are an uncomfortable reminder of


ah yes yes yes yes

i remember when i came to this country, i had a classmate who hated everyone. when i asked him why, he said because he grew up poor and they had an old car. he said it with a whining voice.

i almost laughed to his face and said-- you had a car! didn't have to spend 4 hours a day crammed in a bus! how is that poor?

fucking crybaby! decadent is the right adjective. americans are rich and most don't even know it--would rather whine about not being infinitely rich--that shit has no end. comfort KILLS.

boohoo why do i have a new toyota and not a mercedes waaaaaaah i'm a loser god hates meeee

etc

lives of the rich and famous + celebrity worship + proletarians in denial = conned by trump as "leader"

dead_battery 10.29.2016 01:13 PM

yes, we're a bunch of horny decadent protestants living in a digital rome, spending hundreds on skinny jeans and praying for daddy while the drones police the skies

ilduclo 10.29.2016 01:57 PM

I'd be a little leery of the cheap meat, if I were you. The conditions in the slaughterhouses in Iowa and Colorado are approaching that found in the Jungle. I'm of the more veg and salad meals and less of the pork and beef. Food safety is a real crap shoot in the USA these days, so best of luck to ya!

!@#$%! 10.29.2016 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
yes, we're a bunch of horny decadent protestants living in a digital rome, spending hundreds on skinny jeans and praying for daddy while the drones police the skies

okay but now speaking without irony i have a problem with racial generalizations

besides, it's not a skin color thing-- it's truly a class thing

the problem is class is somewhat racialized, so things get conflated

e.g, the "broke" friend i helped was a well-educated brown guy with a better/steadier income than me

problem is, everyone regardless of "races" is brainwashed to spend above their income level and gets clusterfucked in aspirational lifestyles-- one month without a paycheck and the house of cards collapses

the difference i suppose is that for brown people the indentured servitude of debt feels somewhat familiar, whereas for blancos it's a loss of status from the "good old days" of growing prosperity and having servants--hence the resentment

so schunk and tesla think that trump is going to make them rich again after the country is "cleaned up" of "bad hombres" who work at the restaurant kitchen. the meat guy at my local walmart is a mexican--i heard him speak mexican [okay a little irony there].

but tesla would never do that job, even at gunpoint. same thing as the brexit people complaining about polish workers-- they don't wanna do "undesirable" non-hipster jobs, but complain about the migrants who fill the vacancies.

it's not really "white" decadence--it's first-world decadence. it's still quite a feast though if you know where to get your scraps haaa haa haaa.

dead_battery 10.29.2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
it's first-world decadence. it's still quite a feast though if you know where to get your scraps haaa haa haaa.


#lifelessons

!@#$%! 10.29.2016 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
#lifelessons


http://earlyretirementextreme.com

the hipster/glossy version:

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com

when the shit hits the fan (for students):

http://www.thesimpledollar.com/nouri...perate-income/

pepper_green 10.29.2016 10:16 PM

1. this page is too funny!

2. speak for yourself.

3. what would top this off is some story of Sev and his problems battling confederate flags and dodging kkk hoods on his way home from work.

4. also. white people! I would love to hear yr thoughts on white people.

5. while yr at it....immigrants and blacks too.

6. hell, since im getting lower on the list, how bout jews, extraterrestrials and microbe life.

7. yes, that last one was to offend.

evollove 10.30.2016 07:48 AM

The one and only way HTC wins is if turnout is high. I went canvassing yesterday, and don't think every HTC voter knows where to go or even when the election is. Statistically, if it rains, there's a 20 percent drop in turnout! Dems are scatterbrained and need your help. Contact your county dem office or go to her website to search for local info.

Or take a trip to a state that might be more urgent than yours.

Yeah, I fucking don't wanna either. I'm half painfully shy and half misanthropic, but these are dire days.

Imagine: it's next Tuesday evening. The TV is on. The results come fast and furious. And then you hear the words. "It's official, folks. America has spoken and Donald j trump will be the next president of the United States. Now back to our team for analysis."

Bothering a stranger for thirty seconds doesn't sound so bad now, does it?

ilduclo 10.30.2016 09:05 AM

8 days to go, I think there's no problem. I'll still put $ on her to win. Any takers?

!@#$%! 10.30.2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
I'd be a little leery of the cheap meat, if I were you. The conditions in the slaughterhouses in Iowa and Colorado are approaching that found in the Jungle. I'm of the more veg and salad meals and less of the pork and beef. Food safety is a real crap shoot in the USA these days, so best of luck to ya!


oh hey man, i inadvertently missed this post and didn't reply earlier

cheap meat and cheap cuts are not the same. i buy the same meat everyone else buys, USDA inspected and graded, but i buy the cheap cuts.

the same cow that gives you the ribeye steak gives you the chuck roast/pot roast

the same veal that gives you the luxurious cutlet gives you the supernutritious and inexpensive liver

furthermore, i buy large cuts instead of retail bits

so a pork loin that's $2/lb gets sliced into pork chops and it magically goes up to $5/lb-- because it had to be cut and repackaged. roasts beat steaks & chops by a large margin.

large vacuum-packed roasts give you the best value also because of reduced spoilage. which means safer meat that wasn't handled twice. you cook & cut & freeze at home.

as for jungle conditions etc-- large meat processors have to be compliant with the humane slaughter act, which has been in the books since 1958... more on that next.

while enforcement back in the day was very spotty, these days cattle handling is pretty great. don't know if you know who temple grandin is, but she's designed more than half of the large beef processing facilities in the country. sure, the are cases of animal abuse but those are far from being the rule.

fact is, stressed out cows yield carcasses that are called "dark cutters" and are undesirable in texture and appearance. those are not sold to consumers but end up in school cafeterias, restaurants, the prison sytem, etc etc. so i can tell by simple visual inspection that my meat was handled gently (lol).

sure there is still a way to go in animal welfare, and sure there are boutique processors who exceed those standards, but american beef is generally very safe and of great quality, especially if you buy like i do, vacuum-packed whole roasts.

chicken is what i don't trust due to antibiotic use and bleach for processing. another thing that i don't trust are those tubes of ground beef that mix meat from 5 different countries... i don't buy ground beef anyway, i can make my own if i need.

as for salads, etc-- yes they are nice for the vitamins & phytochemicals, but they have almost no macronutrients. beans are great though! but i'm temporarily off starches--even my menudo will have to wait in the freezer because of that tasty corn.

Drjohnrock 10.30.2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
8 days to go, I think there's no problem. I'll still put $ on her to win. Any takers?


Sure, no problem. Let's ignore evollove's warnings and just be complacent. The Columbian government thought the peace deal with the rebels was a done deal with the voters. Guess what happened? The BREXIT opponents across the pond thought the no vote was a sure thing. Guess what happened?

Drjohnrock 10.30.2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
The one and only way HTC wins is if turnout is high. I went canvassing yesterday, and don't think every HTC voter knows where to go or even when the election is. Statistically, if it rains, there's a 20 percent drop in turnout! Dems are scatterbrained and need your help. Contact your county dem office or go to her website to search for local info.

Or take a trip to a state that might be more urgent than yours.

Yeah, I fucking don't wanna either. I'm half painfully shy and half misanthropic, but these are dire days.

Imagine: it's next Tuesday evening. The TV is on. The results come fast and furious. And then you hear the words. "It's official, folks. America has spoken and Donald j trump will be the next president of the United States. Now back to our team for analysis."

Bothering a stranger for thirty seconds doesn't sound so bad now, does it?




Wise, wise words. I've been talking to a lot of wavering "progressives" I know in an effort to talk sense to them. But I really should do some of what you're doing. So should a lot of us.

!@#$%! 10.30.2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
A lot of Americans these days, white and non-white,


right, you're the one who started with the "pre-revolutionary white folks"

i just went along with that nonsense for a bit, to mock it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
are balancing two or three part-time jobs without benefits to feed their families. Slow public transit being their means from job to job, and the wife working as well, means there's often nowhere to grab a quick meal save for fast food joints.


if you're going to be in a bus for hours you can pack some cheese and peanuts and a REUSABLE bottle of TAP water and some veggies. 4 oz deli style mozzarella give you 32g protein for a whopping 87 cents if you buy it in the large package. peanuts have 8g protein per ounce plus 170 calories from good fat. carrots come ready to eat in "baby cut" packages. bananas are dirt cheap. takes a minute to microwave an egg. milk is $2/gallon. instant coffee is 5 cents a cup. cabbages are cheap and superhealthy. etc.

why pay someone to serve you unhealthy food in a paper container if you're making minimum wage? that's fucking stupid both for health and financial reasons. brownbag it, dumb sucka.

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Walmart gets their meat from the ranching system out West etc etc


i live in a ranch out west (i don't have cows at the moment) and cows can be sold to a number of buyers /resellers/auctions/etc. prices go up and down-- they've been quite high in recent years, are predicted to come down in the next decade.

but if you want to have a long-term contract with walmart you probably have to go by their rules which likely are designed to optimize the supply chain. DON'T want a contract with the security it entails? sell cows at auction.

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Yet more corporate welfare!


this is why i'm in favor of raising the minimum wage which HRC will pursue and trump won't

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
You've just provided me quite the perfect example of that!


i'm not the one who drinks deodorant!

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Look at the actual causes of death in the piece I linked.

i did! it says that the death rates vary wildly from year to year, which actually disqualifies your reaction to the stats.

dead_battery 10.30.2016 12:38 PM

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016...acrifice-zone/

!@#$%! 10.30.2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery


 

The Soup Nazi 10.30.2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
The one and only way HTC wins is if turnout is high. I went canvassing yesterday, and don't think every HTC voter knows where to go or even when the election is.


Halley-type comet?
Harrisonville Telephone Company?
Horry Telephone Cooperative?
Hungarian Telephone and Cable?
High Tech Campus Eindhoven?
Holy Trinity College?
Hangzhou Teachers College?
Harrogate Tutorial College?
Hebrew Theological College?
Hennepin Technical College?
High-throughput computing?
HTML Components?
Heat transfer coefficient?
High temperature superconductor?
Hanseatic Trade Center?
Harrisburg Transportation Center?
Hydrothermal carbonization?

Oh, wait, you meant HRC... I know, I know, "R" and "T" are right next to each other on your keyboard, whatchagon' do...

The Soup Nazi 10.30.2016 02:46 PM

Fuck the FCC / Fuck the FBI / Fuck the CIA / Livin' in the motherfuckin' USA!
__________________________________________________ ______________


Fareed Zakaria today on FBI director James Comey and his horseshit letter to Congress. (I had to type this shit, so ya better read it):

Quote:

There are so few details provided by FBI director James Comey that it is impossible to know what to make of his decision to inform Congress about new e-mails relating to Hillary Clinton's server. The timing is unfortunate, since Justice Department guidelines expressly advices officers to be careful not to do anything, through action or announcement, that could interfere with elections or the democratic process.

It also raises a larger issue. The United States has gone too far down the road of criminalizing public policy. When your oponents do something wrong, even profoundly wrong, in politics it is often best to treat it for what it is: bad judgement, bad policy, bad ethics, and then make the case to the electorate to hold those people accountable. It should not be standard practice to instantly begin searching for ways to treat that behavior as criminal.

This has been a bipartisan problem. When Democrats controlled the Legislature under the Reagan administration, they turned the Iran-Contra affair into a legal matter which resulted in the appointment of an independent council, years of inquiries, and bitter partisan divisions. Then came the Clinton years, when the zeal exploded. The investigations of Bill Clinton consumed public attention, cost tens of millions of dollars, and resulted in an impeachment that was totally unrelated to the original alleged offense: Whitewater, on which no charges were ever filed.

The last two presidencies have seen something of a respit from these witch-hunts, but it seems possible that we are ramping up again for a round of criminalization of policy differences. House Republicans are now promising years of hearing and inquiries should Hillary Clinton be elected President.

The FBI and the Justice Department in particular should stand as independent institutions, and not be swayed by demands made by partisans on either side. James Comey's decision to provide lively commentary on his decisions to testify to Congress, to send them raw FBI data, and now send them this vague letter, are all a break with longstanding practice and established procedures. Not since J Edgar Hoover has an FBI director positioned himself as a player in the political realm.

The power to use the State to put someone in jail is an awesome authority. It should not be used against political oponents. It poisons the public arena, it makes politics a life-and-death affair, and it reminds one of Third World banana republics, not an advanced democracy.

The Soup Nazi 10.30.2016 03:57 PM

Kellyanne Conway Admits At Least One Trump Supporter Is Deplorable
The man yelled "Jew-S-A" at the press during a Trump rally.

ilduclo 10.30.2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Fuck the FCC / Fuck the FBI / Fuck the CIA / Livin' in the motherfuckin' USA!
__________________________________________________ ______________


Fareed Zakaria today on FBI director James Comey and his horseshit letter to Congress. (I had to type this shit, so ya better read it):



so, yeah I read it. I think equating Iran/Contra with a blowjob is a little too much for my sense of balance, though. A LOT of people died in Nicaragua during Reagan's bullshit proxy war there. The only thing dead in the blowjob was sperm, and that's only sacred when.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

The Soup Nazi 10.30.2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
I think equating Iran/Contra with a blowjob is a little too much for my sense of balance, though.


Agreed, and I think horseshit equivalency is the fucking cancer (well, one of 'em... If I remember an episode of House correctly, you can have more than one type at the same time, right?) of current politics. But I think FZ wasn't so much directly equating the two events as the parties' behavior, and he made a point out of distinguishing Whitewater from the BJ. In any case, I posted his opinion because it criticizes this Comey Clown rationally instead of just sniping at him from the void (not that the fucker doesn't deserve the latter).

But HEY, does that Steve Earle song ROCK or WHAT!

 

The Soup Nazi 10.30.2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Imagine: it's next Tuesday evening. The TV is on. The results come fast and furious. And then you hear the words. "It's official, folks. America has spoken and Donald j trump will be the next president of the United States. Now back to our team for analysis."


I'd like to think that in that scenario I would move to freakin' MARS and hang out with David Bowie and Matt Damon. My rocketship, however, will most likely be blocked from leaving Earth by the Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse. It'll make me wish the planet had in fact been blown up during 1962's Cuban Missile Crisis — a much more humane way to go, you follow...

evollove 10.31.2016 07:44 AM

Woke to Trump at a 21.1 chance of winning. Do you enjoy Russian Roulette? Does a 1 out of 5 chance of blowing your brains out feel like comfortable "won't ever happen" chance?

But SYG is on top of things. Strong arguments, interesting links. What more does a campaign need?

Here's what happens:

Pollster calls Person, who reports they are voting for Clinton.

Then I knock on the door. Turns out their car is fucked. Or they have to take their mother to the hospital that day. Or every Tuesday they work a 12 hour shift.

They've heard of early voting, but don't know where to go or what the hours are. I tell them. I hand them literature with an address and hours. They thank me. I thank them.

But above all this, merely knocking on a door, being a presence in a neighborhood, gets votes. It's been proven time and time and time again.

So I don't care how blue your state is or if it even has early voting. You are NEEDED.

evollove 10.31.2016 09:16 AM

Update: 22.7

!@#$%! 10.31.2016 10:34 AM

ah, fucking comey

why do democrats always have to get kicked in the huevos like this?

republicans are always willing to go further. this is why they win even if they're 20,000 kinds of wrong.

i've gotten some people to vote early (democrat, of course).

but fucking shit. these fuckers.

russian roulette: i might try it if trump wins

Severian 10.31.2016 10:44 AM

I'm not actually "allowed" to voice political opinions in public or to become involved in registration or campaigning efforts because of my job. Honestly I'm not even supposed to talk about the election on Facebook or Twitter. It's not that I'd be fired necessarily, but it wouldn't go over well.

I don't like it. I've always been active in election events. I've volunteered for the Dems in two states and formally worked for them in one. But now "ethics" prevents me from so much as putting a sign on my lawn or a sticker on my car. Which is funny, because law enforcement officials and Sheriffs and even Judges do this. As long as they don't piss off enough people that a complaint is filed at the district level, they're fine.

ilduclo 10.31.2016 12:41 PM

^ but fucking Comey can insert his mug into politics all he wants. Hopefully the first one to go in the HRC/TMC admin shuffle

!@#$%! 10.31.2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
^ but fucking Comey can insert his mug into politics all he wants. Hopefully the first one to go in the HRC/TMC admin shuffle


hopefully he dies in a fire

ilduclo 10.31.2016 01:38 PM

or is caught in a J Edgar position....


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