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louder 01.06.2014 08:25 AM

DOOM kills it behind the boards on Take Me to the Leader. i love that album, i just wish he was rapping more on it.

yeah, he never made a bad album. it took a while for JJ DOOM to grow on me, it's such an angry album. it caught the time he was pissed off about living in America.

Severian 01.06.2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
yeah, still need to get used to 2014 hehe.

hey.. we've been through this before, but what are y'all fav DOOM albums?

mine is Madvillainy. in my opinion, a 10/10 and one of the best rap albums ever.

followed by MM.. FOOD and Born Like This.

the mid-late 00's were such great years to be a DOOM fan. now not so much.


My favorite has always, ALWAYS been MM.. FOOD. I don't really know why that album has always been so special for me, but there you have it. Followed by Madvillainy, the Viktor Vaughns, and Born like This.

For quite a while he was my favorite hip hop artist. I would LOVE to hear something new from him this year.

louder 01.06.2014 04:35 PM

 


:D

noisereductions 01.06.2014 09:22 PM

right this second, I feel like an idiot for having never checked out Mac Miller before. Wow.

louder 01.07.2014 12:53 AM

oh yeah, that album is so cool! i don't even like Mac Miller as a rapper but the production.. wow.

louder 01.07.2014 12:54 AM

"Just as promised, at halftime of the national title game, No ID drops off this new record after announcing Common’s new album Nobody Smiling, which is entirely produced by No ID, earlier today. Listen to ‘War’ below."

http://fashionably-early.com/2014/01...ar-prod-no-id/

apparently the album is going to be inspired by the violence in Chicago.

Severian 01.07.2014 09:10 AM

Gravitas is the best thing Talib's released in years. Shit.

Kind of disappointed by Del's new one after a listen. That will probably change, but I just wasn't feeling it. This makes me sad.

noisereductions 01.07.2014 01:04 PM

yeah sev, the new Del feels a little meh. A lot of it feels really sloppy and unfinished.

Severian 01.07.2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
yeah sev, the new Del feels a little meh. A lot of it feels really sloppy and unfinished.


Know what I think? His idea of good production is totally rooted in the early '90s. He produced this himself, yes? Well... The production slaps and thumps with no real purpose. Which is exactl how "... My brother George" would sound if released today.

He was once the emcee I respected most. But I think he only hits home in the proper context, like alongside Kid Koala and Dan.

We'll see though.

louder 01.07.2014 01:40 PM

i'm worried about Common's new album. the single isn't bad, i mean Common's rapping is excellent but it's kinda hard to pay attention to him when that awful beat is all over. plus he's already tried the whole "full No I.D. production" idea on his last album and that didn't end up so well. the concept is what makes me excited to hear it though.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.07.2014 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Gravitas is the best thing Talib's released in years. Shit.

Kind of disappointed by Del's new one after a listen. That will probably change, but I just wasn't feeling it. This makes me sad.


better than prisoner of conscious? Really? its good, but I'm not sure its that good.. As to Del, yeah, just stick with that Hieroglyphics album from last year.

louder 01.07.2014 04:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7B2VgRShew

so amazing.

can't we just get another album like this?? please?

Rob Instigator 01.07.2014 04:36 PM

this thread is so quaint.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.07.2014 04:38 PM

You ain't added nothing to it though, and chillax, we've been talking about good hip hop lately, don't be all Dennis Rodman in North Korea and jinx that shit yo!

 

Rob Instigator 01.07.2014 05:01 PM

Rodman just wants to play ball Yo. He should be the Vitiligo spokesman, since MJ is gone....

Severian 01.07.2014 08:49 PM

I'm anti-common and I don't even know why. I've never heard a song of his that made me feel anything other than suspicious.

Also- most appropriately named rapper ever. lol.

noisereductions 01.07.2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I'm anti-common and I don't even know why. I've never heard a song of his that made me feel anything other than suspicious.


uh... did you never hear the album Resurrection.

I mean. If you like hip hop and don't like "I Used To Love H.E.R." well... that shit doesn't add up.

noisereductions 01.07.2014 09:09 PM

(also his name used to be Common Sense til he got sued by a reggae band w/ same name)

Severian 01.07.2014 09:17 PM

Sorry. I don't mean to be a hater. I just think the guy is kind of an opportunistic "rap star" type. Very few rappers can act in romantic comedies with Queen Latifah and still maintain cred.

Also... I'm totally down with positive tip. Gang Starr, Tribe, Mos Def, Black Moon, Lootpack... All of these artists have albums in my all time favorites list, but BE took the whole "positive tip" approach to a retardedly bushy-tailed new extreme of pussiness. I remember hearing it for the first time and thinking, is this even rap? Like, it belonged in the "Inspirational" section at the record store.

Tight soul beat production though.

Severian 01.07.2014 09:19 PM

To be fair, I've ignored him for quite some time now. Based on your recommendation, NR, I will give that track a listen.

noisereductions 01.07.2014 09:52 PM

give that track a listen, but give the album RESURRECTION a listen. Gawd, that was such an important record to junior high me. Haha. That's so classic dood trust me. No matter what you thnk of his latter day career. That's up there for me in the era of Bizarre Ride II Tha Pharcyde, Alkaholik's Coast II Coast, Tribe, Roots, De La's Buhloon Mindstate & Stakes Is High, etc.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.07.2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I'm anti-common and I don't even know why. I've never heard a song of his that made me feel anything other than suspicious.

Also- most appropriately named rapper ever. lol.


I'll admit, I don't outright hate on Common, but I've never particularly been feeling him myself yo. More into the Mos Def side of that equation.. as to Gravitas, its a good record, and I also dig that Talib Kweli is going Killah Priest and self-releasing it, post-2000s independent music is fucking an epic movement allowing artists to entirely obstruficate the mainstream process. Its too bad it hasn't helped for MC Tree, dude almost seems kind of burned about that.. He had critical acclaim but makes no $$$

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Originally Posted by Severian
Sorry. I don't mean to be a hater. I just think the guy is kind of an opportunistic "rap star" type. Very few rappers can act in romantic comedies with Queen Latifah and still maintain cred.


Don't be hatin on Queen Latifah yo, Kadijah will fuck you up! That, and have you noticed how fine she is lately? That at the thick big-boned Latifah of the 1990s yo,

louder 01.07.2014 11:25 PM

Resurrection was his rapping peak, dude was straight spazzing on every track. Like Wate for Chocolate and Be have his best music though.

louder 01.07.2014 11:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTGxPiEg7iM

prod by DJ Premier. Common is the opposite of a pussy, don't forget it's the dude who destroyed Ice Cube's career.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.07.2014 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTGxPiEg7iM

prod by DJ Premier. Common is the opposite of a pussy, don't forget it's the dude who destroyed Ice Cube's career.


Did Severian call him a pussy? that's cold yo! Fuck Ice Cube

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC Ren
only niggaz buying your record iz cuz they thought it was us..


 

louder 01.07.2014 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Also... I'm totally down with positive tip. Gang Starr, Tribe, Mos Def, Black Moon, Lootpack... All of these artists have albums in my all time favorites list, but BE took the whole "positive tip" approach to a retardedly bushy-tailed new extreme of pussiness. I remember hearing it for the first time and thinking, is this even rap? Like, it belonged in the "Inspirational" section at the record store.

Tight soul beat production though.

hahahahaha, good one.

of course, Kanye production.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.07.2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
(also his name used to be Common Sense til he got sued by a reggae band w/ same name)


They had the nerve to sue Common? Those dudes FUCKING SUCK SO FUCKING BAD! I've had the misfortune and displeasure to see this fuckwads open at some local reggae shows, my Lord, its the definition of plastic, God-awful, absolute shit imitation reggae. Fuck them, if anything, Common probably didn't want to be confused with those lamez

louder 01.07.2014 11:43 PM

Common could do gangsta rap if he wanted. instead he decided to make inspirational records for the people. that's great to me, not corny.

louder 01.08.2014 12:04 AM

i know i've alredy posted a ton of Common songs.. but here's my fav track on Be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foU_vnO1wKY

"I wonder is the spirits of Bob Marley and Haile Selassie
Watch me as the cops be tryna and pop and lock me
They cocky, plus they mentality is Nazi
The way they treat blacks I wanna snap like paparazzi"

that's not corny. that's not some Macklemore shit.

never thought i'd have to defend Common.. i mean some dudes' music just speaks for itself.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.08.2014 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
never thought i'd have to defend Common.. i mean some dudes' music just speaks for itself.


You ain't got to defend him to me, dude is soulful, I just ain't quite feeling it particularly. Not hatin though

louder 01.08.2014 01:17 AM

on "The People" (which i posted earlier) he defines hip hop as "rebel Cadillac music".

so yeah.. the music might really be as "positive and inspirational" as it seems, but the spirit is definitely there. SY would be proud. ;)

louder 01.08.2014 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
You ain't got to defend him to me, dude is soulful, I just ain't quite feeling it particularly. Not hatin though

that's cool. it would be boring if we all agreed with each other all the time anyway.

Severian 01.09.2014 07:43 AM

I'm not hatin' either. I have enjoyed Common a lot in the past, but I quit him some years ago because I was in a totally different kind of mindset, and I just stopped keeping up with him. This was around the time he did some commercial for some short-lived music discovery service with Afrika B.

Anyway, like I said, I'll check out some of this newer shit you guys are referring to. I have an open mind, and I honestly want to see the guy make great music.

Besides... if I hated all inspirational hip hop then I could toss my copy of Graduation in the trash. Which I am NOT going to do. So no hatin' goin' on here.

Severian 01.09.2014 07:44 AM

I've actually been listening to a lot of 2pac lately; an artist I thought I was done with. Specifically RU Still Down? and All Eyez on Me.

Long story short, turns out I am not done. Fascinating story, I know. :)

Severian 01.09.2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
Outkast are back. at least at Coachella. and at least fucking hope a new album is on the way.


I saw that! Are they *the* headliners, or is some british and/or '80s indie band reuniting too?

Oh yeah, the Replacements. Not headlining, but they're gonna be there.

Yes, an Outkast comeback would be very very good indeed.

noisereductions 01.09.2014 08:36 PM

things that don't need to be said: Outkast reunion would be awesome.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.10.2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
Outkast are back. at least at Coachella. and at least fucking hope a new album is on the way.


Coachella reunions are often one-only events.. as to Kast getting back together, meh, I think what they did together stands on its own, sometimes art has to move on. Looking forward to this new Kool Keith and twitter gossip about a new MC Tree mix tape..

louder 01.10.2014 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
Outkast are back. at least at Coachella. and at least fucking hope a new album is on the way.

they just announced they'll perform at the New York City's Governors Ball too.

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
things that don't need to be said: Outkast reunion would be awesome.

i can't even imagine how a new Kast album will sound like in 2014. either way i would be crying tears of joy.

noisereductions 01.10.2014 08:03 PM

new Kast album will sound like Big KRIT haha.

Severian 01.11.2014 10:28 AM

Predicting how a new OutKast album will sound is like predicting what kind of shoes Dennis Rodman will buy on his 55th birthday...

It could just not happen (no shoes) but if it does, the possibilities and variables are endless. Hell, Rodman could walk into an antique store and buy 1920's flapper shoes for a chick with huge ass feet. Similarly, OutKast could make anything. The decision is theirs in the end.

I kinda hope Andre boosts up his solo career and opts out of the horrible idea that is the Hendrix bio-pic.


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