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Just saw WEEK END in a theatre. I was so excited. Finally some Godard in an actual theatre. Took some friends to see it & there was a lot of opinions split. So many people walked out. I thought it was a great film, but the ending through me off quite a bit. I wish they had another showing of it.
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i saw vivre sa vie in theater and i liked the experience, i would go see weekend no doubt! Quote:
i thought it was great myself. i read soderbergh went to great efforts to find a city that looks like santa clara, and i think he succeeded fabulously ![]() pretty cool giallo, good visuals and a morriconne soundtrack |
They played Film: Socialisme too, but it only had one showing & I had to work :( There were two parts in Week End that I was not very happy with. 1. The animal killings & 2. The part about modern "serious" music. Godard just looked like a cunt during these two parts.
Finally got around to watching MULHOLLAND DR & I have to say, I understood Week End a lot more than this one. |
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What did you think of Kill List, Stu? Wife and I loved Down Terrace, but after she heard about the hammer scene in KL, I couldn't get her to attend....:confused: |
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It's not a nice film (obviously!). I mean, it is well filmed, good acting etc... the end is a bit strange but I have my own theories as to why it's like that but I don't want to spoil if for you if you do watch it. Its quite disturbing and I don't really want to see it again. If you like true horror films then you should probably check it out... |
![]() House of the Devil was extremely interesting, but only in a visual sense. It really nailed that whole look of those slow burn 70's horror pictures, like Race With The Devil. The cinematography, unnecessary closeups or zoom ins/outs, those tripod tracking shots, they got that on the head. Though unfortunately, they also nailed the shitty narrative most of those movies have too. If you even half way know what these movies are like, you know every beat that's going to come up through the film as you watch it. Oh, this person is going to die here, she's going to do this, she's going to get drugged here, there's going to be a chased through the woods sequence here, amazingly predictable. But like I said, the visuals, are really interesting, so there's that. |
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His films always seem a bit too much like intellectual exercises for me and I'm always put off by what I think is a certain coldness at the heart of all of them. I won't deny his status as an innovator but I've never really enjoyed anything he's done - Le Mepris aside, perhaps because that's one of his least typical. |
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I've not seen that film but I totally agree about the problem new directors have trying to replicate those low budget 70s horror given how utterly predictable they typically were, albeit in a way that ended up becoming a strange part of their cultish charm. But where I think contemporary audiences are likely to get off on the cheesy zoom ins, I'm not sure they want the leaden paced tedium that often came with it. I've shown friends some what I'd consider classics who've initially enjoyed the cheap look but soon started complaining when the plot wound down to it's standard snail's pace predictability. Whatever the intention, a 70s exploitation film that's non stop thrills and surprises is almost a contradiction in terms. |
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I have been put off by some of his films because of this (2 or 3 things I know about her, helas pour moi & a lot of film: socialsme). Some of them are very hard to sit through. He is a very cynical man & that brushes off in almost all of his work. Still he is very, very compelling & his best work has a lot of heart in it. Godard, despite his many flaws, has blown me away much more than any other filmmaker has. It's a shame you don't get enjoyment out of him, but that's the way he is. You love him or hate him. |
Godard is great. My favorite work of his is still Alphaville. I don't think anything will ever top that for me. Later efforts like Hail Mary, King Lear, or Every Man For Himself are especially interesting to me. There's that really neat Dick Cavett interview with him on YouTube from that era - it's missing Part 3 but is def. worth a watch nonetheless.
His 60's flicks are well-worth the hype. His use of foreground and extras is astonishing, especially considering how long ago most of those flicks were conceived. I also find it really cool when he'll leave the camera on only one member of a conversation, showcasing their reactions to what is being said, rather than the expression of who is saying it. Oh, and the random montages with all the philosophical mojo... those are really neat too. And the giant fonts. That flick Socialisme, that he just made was REALLY NEAT. Fucker's lost his mind. My fav. part was when he's shooting ext. scenes on the ship, and he actually leaves in all the static/clipping/whatever of the wind hitting the mic. IT'S BRILLIANT I TELL YA, BRILLIANT!!! I still haven't seen Week End though. I don't know what the hell is wrong with me. Quote:
Demonrail, you MUST SEE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL. Ti West nails the aesthetics. Completely. It is absolutely breathtaking. The story could use a little more oomph, Count Mecha is right.... but damn... it is a stylistic masterpiece. |
It's really hard to get people to check that one out too. The trailer is awful
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That quote is fantastic. I've never had too hard a time watching Godard's stuff. His stuff is abrasive, but it's just so damn clever and spontaneous feeling.
Guys like Herzog I find to be a much more difficult sword to swallow. Stroszek was pretty cool, Even Dwarves Started Small is outstanding (my personal fav) and I personally loved his Bad Lieutenant, starring Nic Cage. But goddamnit, it must have taken me 3 tries to sit through Herz Aus Glas in it's entirety. Godard keeps me guessing, I think that's why I find him so compelling. |
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I just finished watching it. At first I wasn't sure about the whole retro thing and I do sort of think that (while brilliantly done) it slightly cheapened what I ultimately thought was a great horror film in its own right and, if anything, a far creepier one than a lot of the films it's obviously paying tribute to. Thanks for the recommendation! |
![]() House of Whipcord I can't recommend this enough to any fans of quite brutal downer horror. Don't be put off by the cheesy poster. It's not a sexploitation film at all. Just unbelievably bleak and one of my favourite British horror movies of the 70s. |
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i love tati. i should see playtime again, i have only seen it once and it hasn't been for years.
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I adored it. And I"ve hated most of Ty West's output but this movie is incedible. |
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so amazing. although they are best watch in the company of others i think. |
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Cool, Adele Haenel is in this. She's cute. I'm gonna watch this, thanx |
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It's weird that I can disagree completely with you on Godard, yet completely understand exactly where you're coming from as far as your claims of feeling, "embarassment at my younger self for actually taking this crap seriously". I find Godard to be one of the most inspiring/educational cats you can possibly watch as a film buff/someone working in the industry. To me, his work showcases a multitude of unique approaches to framing, sound design, and editing. His plots may (possibly too often) get a little lost along the way, but I've never once been watching a Godard film and thought, "MY LORD! HOW MUCH LONGER IS THIS DRECK!?!" Your perspective is understandable though. I'm constantly rolling my eyes at how much acclaim many works of 'art' that I find dull, or pretentious can receive. It feels gross, and I certainly respect entertainment over art, any day. Also your image is broken. I can't see what Goldthwait film you're talking about. |
Liking Godard is purely subjective but I don't see why anyone wouldn't respect what he did, at least for a period in his career.
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![]() ![]() There's a lot of love for Herzog's version here I think. I sort of like them equally but in very different ways. Watching them back to back I was thinking how great it'd be if Bad Lieutenant became a kind of standard, being constantly re-imagined by other quite maverick filmmakers. I'd love to see a Lars Von Trier Bad Lieutenant, or a Tarantino one or a Michaerl Mann one. It could be the same with actors, after Harvey Keitel and Cage, imagine a whole sequence of films with the lieutenant played by the likes of Steve Buscemi, Christian Bale, etc. All putting their slant on it. Like a cool Bond franchise. |
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^ yeh, that's okay. Not nearly as good as it could be, though, in my opinion.
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I kind of love that idea. Michael Mann's "Bad Lieutenant" starring Tom Cruise. Tarantino's starring Bruce Willis. Lars Von Trier's starring Stellan Skarsgaard. David Lynch's starring Laura Dern. |
Sunset Boulevard.
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Exactly! A Lynch one would be great. Some other directors I'd love to see do it: William Friedkin Gasper Noe Almodovar Brian DePalma Michael Haneke The Hughes Brothers Tim Burton (:eek: ) Scorsese Spike Lee Beat Takeshi (isn't Violent Cop basically the same thing?) Robert Rodriguez Some actors: Al Pacino Nick Nolte (perhaps a bit too old now but he would've been perfect a few years ago) Gene Hackman (same age problem as Nolte but wasn't Popeye Doyle the original Bad Lieutenant?) Gary Oldman Christian Bale Robert Downey Jnr Beat Takeshi Lindsay Lohan Kevin Spacey Russell Crowe Willem Defoe Alec Baldwin Ray Winstone Ray Liotta Javier Bardem |
I still haven't seen the Keitel original (I know - shame, shame), but I'd definitely fork over cash twice to see a DePalma directed Bad Lieutenant starring Lohan.
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it's funny and absurd that an experienced hunter such as her ends up running in a straight line along a train track with no escape route. i'm like "fur sirius, bitch? why not run to the fucking trees you know so well". |
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Oh seriously, you must see it. It's completely bonkers. Bits of it are a little silly and Ferrara is maybe even more ott than normal (only he could make Herzog seem understated by comparison) but if you like gritty cop movies, Ferrara's BL has to be a must. |
Skolimowski's Moonlighting.
To think most people would only say Roman Polanski when asked about a Polish director... sigh... |
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I have, yeah, a long time ago, though. I liked it but think he really came into his own later on. Driller Killer felt more to me like he was simply trying to get in on the whole slasher thing. Over the years I think I've probably seen all hios films. I've liked some more than others but had a soft spot for all of them. If you've not already seen it, two of his most underrated are The Blackout (a sort of 8 1/2 meets Leaving Las Vegas) and his made for TV version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, called simply Body Snatchers. |
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