When I think grindcore... I think Napalm Death, Assuck, Phobia, etc. Everything else that isn't along those lines could be classified in more specific genres. With that said...

listen to power fucking violence!

Infest
Capitalist Casualties
Scholastic Deth
Magrudergrind

just to name a few. It's my personal favorite style of grindcore and probably some of the most aggressive music to ever grace this earth. Dig into the early 90s West Coast hardcore. shit was ridiculous.

and if you're interested in more modern bands that you might catch on tour, check out the Houston/Gulf Coast, TX scene: Insect Warfare, Pretty Little Flower, 50/50 all deliver brutal fucking grind.

I take that back.

by the way, anyone (besides atsonicpark) know or is into XXX MANIAK?

the only band i can think of that makes every single power electronics band sound like singer songwriter folkies.



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but to keep the ball rolling, let me ask you a question:

is grindcore metal anymore? i mean, it surely was, especially with napalm, carcass, terrorizer but, i think (and here's my opinion) that most grind post-discordance axis is not metal anymore as much as power electronics or industrial are metal.

what do you think?

Wasn't Merzbow influenced by the guitar smashing of (alleged proto-metallers) the Who and Hendrix? Hawkwind have some astonishing noise sections. Perhaps metal has just reconvened with its psychedelic roots, and found industrial and noise along the way.

It's not far away from asking if doom is metal; most of it, yes, but Sunn and Earth are talking about La Monte Young; the weird thing at the moment, I find, is that metal is suddenly one of the more creative and absorbent of genres. There's only a degree of seperation between Abruptum and Derek Bailey. Madness, I tells you.

my point was mainly that, while it might be metal influenced (or, in the case of which industrial we're talking, metal influencing) you'd be hard pressed to find pantera tshirt wearing metalheads headbanging to spk or ramleh.

and i do agree about the abruptum and derek bailey relationship.

ive always thought that grindcore is the most versatile genre of metal, but still metal nonetheless. it can be argued that it is more rooted in hardcore punk though. either way, i think theres a shit load of amazing grindcore bands.

Is Grinderman grindcore?

sorry glice, but this is The Wire talk.

^ Ha ha!

they are THE grindcore band. without them the genre wouldn't exist anymore. didn't you see nick cave grow long hair? he started wearing tight black jeans and high top nikes for the grinderman shows too.

Okay, I wasn't sure. Thanks.

Putrescence
Fuck...I'm Dead
Captain Cleanoff
Unholy Grave

Thanks for the recommendation. Precisely what my Saturday morning needs.

Captain Cleanoff, Pisschrist (Grindcore AND really really hardcore Punk) , Amputated, Rort and so on.

Captain Cleanoff win,
did you go to their gig at the warehouse a month ago or something?

i've only been able to get into pig destroyer. everything else i've heard bores me after like...two minutes.