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when i was about 13 i listened to only Hip Hop, more what i thought was underground and takin-it-back-to-the-old-school type stuff. Now I've realised the more politiically incorrect stuff is much better:
NWA Wu-Tang Clan- First two albums(favourite ever) Dr. Octagon Dr Dre (the chronic) Biggie Edan Dizzie Rascal |
Mr. Lif!!!!
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Wow!, i want one of his books, are they available to buy? |
No mention of the British stuff? Kano, Dizzee, Wiley, Lady Sov, MIA or even the mighty Tystion and the frankly shit Ciderdelic? Anyone know the Aspects? Pitman? Eric B & Rakim?
Ooh, Chilli Gonzales' 'The Entertainist', that were a good 'un. "The entertainist who entered your anus/ said he was Jewish just to get famous" and so on. Nice to see comp flow and can ox get a mention. Edit: Tone-loc, neglected to mention him. |
Yep Da Flow rulezzzz man.Dizzie and Sovereign are up there with the god of lyric-writing as far as i'm concerned.
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http://www.amazon.com/said-shotgun-h.../dp/0743470796 I really want to get this one: http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Emcee-Scr...176030?ie=UTF8 As for Ghostface, I'm still missing one of his albums (Bulletproof wallets). But I have his latest DVD, and for a live concert it's the best quality I've ever seen. |
Anyone got any recommendations on French rap? Also, I seem to hear a lot of Senegalese stuff on the radio, but I can never remember to write down the names. Any rap from non-English speaking nations herewith appreciated.
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From Austria: Total Chaos - Nachtschattengewächs
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xy4zr7 |
Kool Keith is one if not the most original mc, amongst those ranks is O.D.B. (R.I.P.) but theirs a shit load of dope mc's out their. Mf/Vik, GZA, J-live & so on.
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The Nogatco shit is some of the hottest shit I've heard lately. |
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I liked this. I'm not sure why but it made me want to listen to DAF. |
Winter Warz
Verse One: U-God This rhyme you digest through the RZA console Ask why I slam, non-diagram pole Raekwon dropped the bomb, Hunchback, Notre Dame Golden Arms is bronze, buddah palm hit Qu'ran It blows extreme, mean stream be the theme Supreme team, America's CREAM team, redeemed Vidal Sassoon, chrome tones hear the moans of Al Capone Gun POW to the dome And split the bone, wig blown off the ledge By the alledged, full-fledged, sledge RZA edge One dose of my feroc(ious) hand held trigga cuts Acapella spittin shell paralyzed when you get touched And critical, mic cords, hangin like umbilical Cords, dope swords, five star general Raw be the quote rap style sore throat Through the fully operational, hand held tote Verse Two: Ghostface Killer More than thousand times one, snatch up, my styles get done I hold a title, enhanced how my belt was won, check it Slick majestic, broke mics are left infected Germs start to spread through your crew, drew like an epic You asked for it, shot up the jams like syringes My technique alone blows doors straight off the hinges Masked Avenger, I appear to blow your ear like wind With a freestyle, sharper than the Indian spear So sit back and let the king explore Describe me, the kid's nice and he holds swords And his name, black attack's the nerve like migraines With more games than beggars on trains, livid sharp pains Poisonous Rebel like Deck, you can't destroy this You get ambushed, skate, try to avoid this Side effects of, hot raps and hot tracks A duffle bag full of guns son, dipped in black My culture, slides and attacks like a vulture Ghostface and Madison Square is on your poster |
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Out of the recent bands, one of my favourite is La Caution. They are one of the most innovative as far as the music is concerned. Here are the videos for two songs from their last (double) album "Peines de maures / Arc-en-ciel pour daltoniens": La Caution – Code Barre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cdUtM80bO0 La Caution – Thé à la menthe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akFZtK0GVU4 and two from their previous album « Asphalte hurlante »: La Caution – Toujours électriques http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnYdcPInaeM La Caution – Casquettes grises http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3WqqlaTGY Maybe I will simply continue with youtube links, it makes this easy… A track I really like by Karlito, from the album « Contenu sous pression » (the rest of the album is great too, as much as I can remember) – the video is nice too: Karlito – La rue cause http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0dKvYmBPaE Then, maybe I can mention Booba, the arrogant muscled ego-trip rapper, nearly a caricature of the gangsta-rapper rapping about crime and money (he is also mocked for dressing and acting "like an american rapper"): he's apparently really famous now in France and selling a lot of his records. In general, French rappers are always torn between the politically-conscious and the individualism, but Booba did not hesitate at all between the two. Then again, sometimes, for a short moment, on certain songs, he also seems extremely lucid about what is doing, what "role" he is playing… some sort of nihilism... And he writes great lyrics, sometimes it feels like he is having one punchline after another… Some writer even wrote a long article about Booba’s lyrics at the Nouvelle Revue Française (prestigious literary magazine), comparing Booba to Céline and other writers, and calling the violent images in Booba’s lyrics "métagores" (a mix of "métaphores" and "gore"). He is certainly gifted with words, but I guess one does not realise it immediately. Anyway, here are four videos, which probably don't do him justice (a list of some extracts of his lyrics would be a better way to develop the interest of other people in his music… then again, if you don't speak French…): Booba – Mauvais garçon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcwq2lyAon4 Booba – Repose en paix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_lbiuvVHjY Booba – Garde la pêche http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i35YW36H7NA Booba – Boulbi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AifzEVPbJ_c |
Now a song that has been apparently (I was not in France then) somehow put into the spotlight during the recent "riots" in France, because of one of its line ("J’ baiserai la France jusqu’à ce qu’elle m’aime"): Tandem’s "93 Hardcore". I have read an album review that was sort of arguing that Tandem was France’s N.W.A., and that this song was their "Straight outta Compton" ("Straight outta Aubervilliers", then):
Tandem – 93 Hardcore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgzkRimUQ0k In a totally different style, TTC, who actually might be relatively well-known because they are signed on Big Dada (here: http://www.bigdada.com/artist.php?id=36). Friends with La Caution (they made a record together). Video of a song from their first album "Ceci n’est pas un disque": TTC – De pauvres riches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNy3ETXEzOs Video of « Dans le club » from their second album (nice production on this song), live in concert and live on television TTC – Dans le club (live) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o00_EISM4RQ TTC – Dans le club (live on TV) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5508YbCU0P4 The two big « historic » french hip-hop bands were probably NTM from Seine Saint-Denis / Paris and IAM from Marseille. "Demain c’est loin" by IAM might be my favourite French hip-hop track: it’s more than 9 minutes long and the beat doesn’t change once, but the lyrics are great, and even better combined with the images from the video (of course, you will miss out a lot, if not everything, if you do not understand French): IAM – Demain c’est loin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYMjRvgh8s Another song from IAM : IAM – Petit frère http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2rEdM5x4DU IAM – La Saga ft. Timbo King & Dreddy Krueger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuB2bx_0sr4 And videos from NTM : NTM – Qu’est-ce qu’on attend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMbey5x1xgQ NTM – That’s my people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88tsEjceu78 NTM – Tout n’est pas si facile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPMig1cZm7I NTM – Authentik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8j8GHNpP0 Ah I forgot that among the first groups to play hip-hop in France, there was also Assassin… but I actually never listened to them… Here is their first video (that voice one can hear between verses is annoying): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Ikk9JUJEc Oh and I also have never really been into Saïan Supa Crew, but they are probably worth mentioning: Saian Supa Crew – Raz-de-marée http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzMmGgC_ps |
all of this is a bit ridiculous since i actually do not know much about french hip-hop (well, i know the singles, and it was fun looking at those old videos)...
anyway, a final one with Vincent Cassel playing human beatbox at the end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9uWJV3uI4c |
Someone else rep o o o. I have done once, but I think he needs another few for good measure.
Many thanks for that. Saian Supa Crew were the ones I was trying to remember, I have a few mates who're into them. There was this excellent Chinese rapper that a mate turned me onto, I wish I could remember his name. Nearly as good as Faye Wong, but, obviously not quite. |
well, saian supa crew are good, i just did not listen to them a lot (and if i remember correctly, i used to find them a bit disappointing as far as the lyrics are concerned...).
i really like that song "raz-de-marée", though. i don't know if they split, but two guys from saian supa crew formed a new band called OFX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PseXIPg3cw8 |
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Ive heard 'Spleen's Meant to be quite good. Ive only heard him rapping on CocoRosie's latest record , still worth checking out though. |
some Tanzanian hip-hop... apparently called "bongo flav" over there:
X Plastaz - Msimu Kwa msimu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuciBmFde1M if anyone can recommend some german hip-hop, that would be lovely... i know a few stuff, but i would be very interested in some informed opinions... or not so informed... |
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