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Cantankerous 08.07.2008 12:54 AM

i agree

as the stones sound evolved though, ronnie's the right man for the job

gmku 08.07.2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
it should have been "the rolling stones featuring mick taylor" rather than "mick taylor featuring the rolling stones"

he's a damn good guitarist but he needed his own band.


Oh, come on. He was an integral part of their sound. He didn't derail their sound. He contributed to it. What the Stones sound like with Taylor is simply what the Stones sounded like during that era. They don't sound wrong because of him, or un-Stones-like. The Stones sound changed continually, so to say that he caused a problem is simply ridiculous. He was part of their evolution into the band they became circa 69 to 73. And I think the success of his part in the band is at least partly supported by how well, critically and commercially, those albums are received.

Ewww, yer a gettin my blood boiling!

Cantankerous 08.07.2008 12:58 AM

i'm never going to agree with you. don't even try.

gmku 08.07.2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
One thing is for sure as far as the studio albums though. Sticky Fingers would not be possible without him.

But hey, how 'bout that Goats Head Soup album?


AH, piss on Goats Head. Mick Taylor can kiss my ass.

gmku 08.07.2008 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i'm never going to agree with you. don't even try.


So you don't like Sticky Fingers and Exile, I take it?

Cantankerous 08.07.2008 01:00 AM

i love all of their albums up to tattoo you but it's got nothing to do with who was playing guitar. the fact of the matter is while mick taylor is a phenomenal guitar player i don't think he was the right guitar player and i never will.

gmku 08.07.2008 01:03 AM

Well, as atari has said, I believe this is pretty far from the consensus of Stones fans like everywhere and throughout all future time... . I think you have to consider, too, that several of the albums you love simply would not be the albums you love without Taylor and his contributions, credited and otherwise... .

atari 2600 08.07.2008 01:10 AM

She likes them with jack-of-all-trades Brian best I guess (I love that stuff too) and then she likes when Ronnie came in as a guitarist.

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i love all of their albums up to tattoo you but it's got nothing to do with who was playing guitar. the fact of the matter is while mick taylor is a phenomenal guitar player i don't think he was the right guitar player and i never will.


I was being harsh with Ronnie earlier. I even like most of Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You.

Per the thread, "Tops" and "Waitin' on a Friend" (feat. saxophone collosus Sonny Rollins) from Tattoo You were recorded during the Goats Head Soup sessions and Taylor plays on those.

Cantankerous 08.07.2008 01:12 AM

the albums i like best are actually the ones with mick taylor on them, followed by the ones with brian. studio and live are two different things.

gmku 08.07.2008 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
She likes them with jack-of-all-trades Brian best I guess (I love that stuff too) and then she likes when Ronnie came in as a guitarist.



I was being harsh with Ronnie earlier. I even like most of Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You.

Per the thread, "Tops" and "Waitin' on a Friend" (feat. saxophone collosus Sonny Rollins) from Tattoo You were recorded during the Goats Head Soup sessions and Taylor plays on those.


Hey, yeah, that's right. I forgot Taylor's on that record.

atari 2600 08.07.2008 01:16 AM

Wiki is my friend; I had completely forgotten too. At one time, (just like you) I did know though...really. ha

Rob can arrive later today to remind us how much he digs "Waiting on a Friend."

Tank Girl, if you can get past some amount of Taylor's playing that you perceive (or so it sort of seems) as showing-off-for-showing-off's sake live, there's also plenty of zeniths.

Taylor is technically great, yes, but he's naturally such a wunderkind that he plays the songs live different all the time. I don't see your objection to it to the same degree, but then again, there's no use in splitting hairs. You like what you like.

gmku 08.07.2008 01:18 AM

I have a boot called Nasty Music, culled from the 72 and 73 tours, that just blow me away because of Taylor's playing. And in spite of whatever personal friction they had, you can hear Taylor and Richards click perfectly together as players, working off each other's parts, picking up subtle clues.

gmku 08.07.2008 01:27 AM

So now that I've thoroughly beat that dead horse of an argument to death (and won, I might add), how about that Goats Head Soup album?

atari 2600 08.07.2008 01:27 AM

Damn, how great would Goats be with "Waiting on a Friend?" Why would they not include it? It boggles the mind.

...Jus' sittin' here pickin' "Angie" thinkin' that I should go to bed...

Cantankerous 08.07.2008 01:28 AM

you can't win an argument if no one even understands the opposition

as usual

i quit.

gmku 08.07.2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
Damn, how great would Goats be with "Waiting on a Friend?" Why would they not include it? It boggles the mind.


Yeah, seriously! In place of Starfucker or Can You Hear the Music, especially.

gmku 08.07.2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
you can't win an argument if no one even understands the opposition

as usual

i quit.


You know I'm just teasing. Jesus. Come back! We LOVE you. Even if you don't love Mick Taylor, we still love YOU! I'm sure Mick Taylor would love you, too, if he knew you. Please come back.

atari 2600 08.07.2008 01:34 AM

I was just bored when I called ya 'Tank Girl.'

Come back Glimmer Gal!

I really do need to retire, however. Tried to call a friend in Seattle to help keep me up, but they aren't answering.

Cantankerous 08.07.2008 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Yeah, seriously! In place of Starfucker or Can You Hear the Music, especially.

no
i love both of those songs so much

gmku 08.07.2008 01:37 AM

I'm hitting the sack. Good night, atari. Sweet dreams, Cantankerous.


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