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the ikara cult 12.25.2008 08:19 PM

Happy Fucking Christmas you Fucking Cunt

I have a considered and thoughtful position from which to argue this, but ive drunk so much today i can only count on it as faith

HECKLER SPRAY 12.25.2008 08:24 PM

What did you drink for christmas ?
The blood of Christ ?

the ikara cult 12.25.2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Furthermore, the core of Catholicism isn't that Jesus died for our sins, the core belief that sets Catholicism apart from all other religions is the mystery of transubstantiation. Unlike other Christians whose cannibalism of Jesus is symbolic, the true beleiving Catholic literally commits ritual cannibalism, idealy every Sunday morning a couple of hours before lunch.


The core belief of Catholicism is that we are sinners as soon as we are born, the rest wouldnt be possible unless we are sure we are scum for simply existing and we need to dedicate our lives to making up for it. With the promise of eternal salvation of course.

I hate this masochism shit, i might be depressed, but I refuse to be Miserable,

the ikara cult 12.25.2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
What did you drink for christmas ?
The blood of Christ ?


It is 100% proof after all

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.26.2008 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Ok, whatever. Hitler was David Copperfield and the bible hasn't changed crafty hands over the centuries, re-adjusting itself to whatever a moment in history called out for. Can't be bothered with this sort of chat. Did you learn that in school, by any chance?


No, Hitler wasn't David Copperfield. But the nazi party did some stuff that was just fucking weird. Like the Thule society.

The Bible hasn't changed since it was codified by the Roman Catholic church, except maybe wording wise. The King James Bible is different than the NIV version, but it's basically the same. People's translations of what certain sentences mean has. But I get messages of tolerance, love, and compassion from it. Jesus himself never advocated hatred towards people of other religions. You could make the argument that the writers of his life might have painted bad pictures of people of other religions.

But to me, at it's very base- Christianity is about following Christ. Not those that distorted his image for their own purposes or motives. Whether it be the Romans who edited out the Gospel of Thomas as well as other gospels, the writers who depicted pretty sympathetic portraits of Pilate, or newer interpretations- I don't think that's theologically what Christianity is about.

barnaclelapse 12.26.2008 05:20 PM

I don't hold anything against any race of people.

From what I've understood, Christ forgave those who killed him, so I don't see why anyone else should have to struggle like a jackass with the concept.

Honestly though, I don't really think about it a whole lot.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.26.2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

But to me, at it's very base- Christianity is about following Christ. Not those that distorted his image for their own purposes or motives. Whether it be the Romans who edited out the Gospel of Thomas as well as other gospels, the writers who depicted pretty sympathetic portraits of Pilate, or newer interpretations- I don't think that's theologically what Christianity is about.


truly Christianity is a mystical religion. This is why its major aspects are called "Mysteries" such as 1) the Mystery of the Holy Trinity or 4) The Mystery of the Holy Trinity or 2) the Mystery of Baptism etc

These are metaphysical events, not just symbols or motifs, and those who are initiated through experience with these mysteries understand that like pain, sex, drugs and love, religion is to be internally experienced as an interpretation of perceived feelings.

The church books and bibles and rituals and liturgies are merely vehicles, like genitals or crack pipes, which facilitate the process of the actual feelings themselves.

Look to the feelings of Christ, not merely the teachings.

HECKLER SPRAY 12.27.2008 10:41 AM

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1224770987

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.27.2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY


that seems to be a very Jihadist version of the Garden..

 


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