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Kuhb 03.03.2018 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
HOLY SHIT THERE’S A NEW BREEDERS ALBUM OUT!!!


Fuck me!

And it’s goddamn GOOD!


Seconded. Absolutely worthy of anything in their catalogue

Severian 03.03.2018 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb
Seconded. Absolutely worthy of anything in their catalogue


Absolutely. I’ve loved every one of their albums (Title TK was actually my favorite album of its year at the time... don’t care if that’s lame), but this is every bit as good and immediate and punchy and spacey and tactile and pummeling as anything else.

Is it fair to say the Breeders have surpassed the Pixies at this point? They have a smaller catalog for sure, but it’s more consistent by miles.

This was a pleasant surprise for a guy who’s never not anticipated a Breeders album for months in advance. I remembered it was coming only when Apple Music reminded me. Thank god.

Kuhb 03.03.2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
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Is it fair to say the Breeders have surpassed the Pixies at this point? They have a smaller catalog for sure, but it’s more consistent by miles.

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I guess if you don't like the Pixies reunion albums, but I think Mountain Battles was probably weaker than any Pixies album.

But that's focusing on the wrong thing. All Nerve is great, and I can tell already there's 3 or 4 of the more off-centre tunes that will end up being my favourites in a few months

Severian 03.03.2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb
I guess if you don't like the Pixies reunion albums, but I think Mountain Battles was probably weaker than any Pixies album.

But that's focusing on the wrong thing. All Nerve is great, and I can tell already there's 3 or 4 of the more off-centre tunes that will end up being my favourites in a few months


Yeah I do not like the Pixies reunion albums. Mountain Battles kills them. But yeah, doesn’t matter, new Breeders is great.

noisereductions 03.04.2018 12:55 AM

Love the Breeders. Excited about new album. But dude no. Pixies rule.

Kuhb 03.04.2018 03:56 AM

I acknowledge the majority of my sporadic posts here are Pixies related... but

Come On Pilgrim-Surfer Rosa-Doolittle-Bossanova-Trompe Le Monde-Frank Black ST-Teenager Of The Year

All happened within an 8 year span. Before the guy turned 30. That's not just better than Breeders (who are in my top 5 bands all time)... that's better than Bob Dylan.

noisereductions 03.04.2018 10:12 AM

^this guy gets it.

h8kurdt 03.04.2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb
I acknowledge the majority of my sporadic posts here are Pixies related... but

Come On Pilgrim-Surfer Rosa-Doolittle-Bossanova-Trompe Le Monde-Frank Black ST-Teenager Of The Year

All happened within an 8 year span. Before the guy turned 30. That's not just better than Breeders (who are in my top 5 bands all time)... that's better than Bob Dylan.



Bob Dylan
Freewheelin Bob Dylan
The Times They Are A-Changin'
Another Side Of Bob Dylan
Bringing It All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde On Blonde
John Wesley Harding
Nashville Skyline
New Morning

All released before he was 30. I like Frank Black as much as the next man, but c'mon now.

noisereductions 03.04.2018 11:08 AM

but still.... Pixies > Breeders.

Severian 03.04.2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Bob Dylan
Freewheelin Bob Dylan
The Times They Are A-Changin'
Another Side Of Bob Dylan
Bringing It All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde On Blonde
John Wesley Harding
Nashville Skyline
New Morning

All released before he was 30. I like Frank Black as much as the next man, but c'mon now.


Yeah, agreed.

Pixies’s track record is solid, but Bossa is half-crap, and Trompe is one-third crap. Dylan did better. Beatles did bette. Kane did better. Fugazi did better. Hell, Sonic Youth did better.

Love the Pixies, but let’s not go fucking crazy here.

Kuhb 03.04.2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Yeah, agreed.

Pixies’s track record is solid, but Bossa is half-crap, and Trompe is one-third crap.


Leaving that to hang like a bad smell

Kuhb 03.04.2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Bob Dylan
Freewheelin Bob Dylan
The Times They Are A-Changin'
Another Side Of Bob Dylan
Bringing It All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde On Blonde
John Wesley Harding
Nashville Skyline
New Morning

All released before he was 30. I like Frank Black as much as the next man, but c'mon now.



I dunno, I don't find the debut or anything after Highway 61 anywhere near as compelling as that golden run from Freewheelin' onwards.

I'm not going to say anything outlandish, like they're 'half-crap' or something... but you get what I mean.

In any caae. New Breeders album. It's super super great.

Severian 03.04.2018 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb
Leaving that to hang like a bad smell


Ok, maybe they’re only one-quarter crap each, but Bossa is NOT a perfect album, an it is not a Doolittle or Surfer Rosa-level album. Has some great goddamn songs, but also some terrible ones (“Hangwire” is pure filler nonsense).

Trompe is better as a whole, with fewer definitive songs. But dammit, this is not Dylan-level work. The Breeders’ album average is higher than ththe Pixies’. Five great albums vs. two great albums, two good albums, and two positively dreadful ones.

Math bruh.

(Not count Pixies excellent B-sides or BBC sessions or Purple Tape)

noisereductions 03.04.2018 11:02 PM

I think Surfer Rosa ALONE makes the argument for Pixies.

Kuhb 03.05.2018 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
(“Hangwire” is pure filler nonsense).


I think we speak an entirely different musical language.


Walking With a Killer is probably my favourite track so far. I love that they re did it with the full band. It reminds me of Iris from Pod. It just feels so inevitable and so right. Love love love it

Severian 03.05.2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb

Walking With a Killer is probably my favourite track so far. I love that they re did it with the full band. It reminds me of Iris from Pod. It just feels so inevitable and so right. Love love love it


Well we agree about this at least. I had a similar thought about “Iris.”
Also a few moments remind me of “Oh!”

Moshe 03.13.2018 11:36 AM

New JOMF album coming soon!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=H4MBfoXm4XI

Severian 03.13.2018 03:19 PM

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WHAT!

Hell the fuck yeah!

Peterpuff 03.14.2018 09:53 AM

I have to agree with you all on this new Breeders album. I am really, really, REALLY liking it.

Kuhb 03.14.2018 05:12 PM

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I have to agree with you all on this new Breeders album. I am really, really, REALLY liking it.



I'm definitely heading towards adding that extra 'REALLY'

noisereductions 03.14.2018 06:29 PM

It's rare that so many of us agree on one album!

Severian 03.14.2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterpuff
I have to agree with you all on this new Breeders album. I am really, really, REALLY liking it.


Yes. It’s ... I want to say “dank,” in, like, a Hank Hill voice.

There’s something about it that just hits all the right buttons.

noisereductions 03.14.2018 09:29 PM

It is my favorite album of 2018... Q1.

Severian 03.15.2018 07:16 AM

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It is my favorite album of 2018... Q1.


B-b-but Q1 ain’t done!

Mine’s probably the new Nicolas Jaar (as A.A.L.) album.

noisereductions 03.15.2018 07:29 AM

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B-b-but Q1 ain’t done!


I didn't think I really needed to type out "it's my favorite album of 2018... Q1 (up to and including the day that I'm typing this post)."

noisereductions 03.15.2018 12:58 PM

Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville deluxe box set out 5/4.

Severian 03.15.2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I didn't think I really needed to type out "it's my favorite album of 2018... Q1 (up to and including the day that I'm typing this post)."


Yeah, you didn’t think is right!

The Soup Nazi 03.15.2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville deluxe box set out 5/4.


 


Now THIS is truly bitchen news. I've had the bootleg ^ literally for decades and it's thrilling to know it's gonna get a decent-sounding release. Plus, the 3CD version's price is pretty nice!

https://store.matadorrecords.com/exi...ound-cassettes

Severian 03.15.2018 08:12 PM

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Now THIS is truly bitchen news. I've had the bootleg ^ literally for decades and it's thrilling to know it's gonna get a decent-sounding release. Plus, the 3CD version's price is pretty nice!

https://store.matadorrecords.com/exi...ound-cassettes


Cool!

I’m actually interested in this. I haven’t listened to Guyville in forever, but it was a favorite for a while. Interest waned when Liz started to properly eat all kinds of shit (like, WOW, what a fall-off that was). But that detracts not at all from Guyville. Shouldn’t anyway.

noisereductions 03.15.2018 08:25 PM

I never even heard her post Matador albums tbh.

Severian 03.16.2018 07:08 AM

Hey! The new Yo La Tengo album is out today!!!

Another one I’d forgotten about. I listened to a few songs last week and they were solid. Looking forward to picking this up.

 

noisereductions 03.16.2018 08:13 AM

yeah I meant to mention that too. This week had a few things of interest to me... the Yo La Tengo, this new STP album with new singer, and the new Mount Eerie album.

Peterpuff 03.16.2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
when Liz started to properly eat all kinds of shit (like, WOW, what a fall-off that was). But that detracts not at all from Guyville. Shouldn’t anyway.


Haha, so true. I really like Guyville a lot. Classic album, really. But she really did go to shit. I remember seeing her live in 2003 and seriously pitying her for how bad it was. It was just her as an opening act solo with guitar and no band, so that contributed a bit, but her songs at that time did not translate at all in that form. She totally just sucked the energy right out of the room. Very vivid memory that made a strong impression, sadly for how bad it just really was. I have not paid attention to her since.

I also had sort of slipped mentally on the new Yo La Tengo album. Excited to go check that out today. Also did not realize STP were doing a new one. While they have an odd history for sure with singers, I actually always sort of liked them as a band. Maybe just a guilty nostalgic pleasure from high-school, but still. Certainly will go check that out too.

noisereductions 03.16.2018 08:55 AM

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Also did not realize STP were doing a new one. While they have an odd history for sure with singers, I actually always sort of liked them as a band. Maybe just a guilty nostalgic pleasure from high-school, but still. Certainly will go check that out too.


I listened to half of it this morning on my commute. I'll say that it was sort of just a curiosity thing - This is their second self-titled album in a row which is odd. And they hired a new singer, just some guy who I guess was on one of those singing shows or something?

In Jr. High STP was huge for me. Core and Purple were big big. And then I always just kinda liked them through high school. And then lost interest for a while. But there's always been something weirdly fascinating about them to me. This sort of tug-o-war between grunge and glam I guess. And then Weiland had gone off - first to do the Velvet Revolver project, then some un-ironic crooner records and recorded an album of covers that never got a proper release and so on. There was a reunion; there was an album with a Linkin Park dude. There's just so much weirdness in that bands' history.

Anyway, I ramble. The new album is surprisingly solid. I'm not going to say "good" here, because frankly I imagine that 98% of this board hates STP haah. So really, I'd word it like this: I was really just shocked at how "Stone Temple Pilots" this album really sounds. It doesn't feel like a forced nostalgia. And it doesn't sound like they tried to find a guy to pretend he's Scott. It just sounds like the musicians went on doing what they always did, and they found another voice to fill the role. This record sounds to me like if you enjoy Purple or Tiny Music, then you'd enjoy this.

Peterpuff 03.16.2018 08:56 AM

And holy crap I can't stop listening to this Breeders album. Now getting to know the songs, the off-kilter ones have seriously grabbed me, like others said. (and yes, Iris has ALWAYS been a serious favorite. I remember seeing this vid on MTV and being so entranced. It has still remained one of my favorite performances of anything, ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8sgVb6QtkE )

It really is hard to pinpoint, but this album really does have that certain "charm" to it. Maybe this lineup really does have a certain magical chemistry, not to get all existential and shit, but seriously. There is just something to this.

Peterpuff 03.16.2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
In Jr. High STP was huge for me. Core and Purple were big big. And then I always just kinda liked them through high school. And then lost interest for a while. But there's always been something weirdly fascinating about them to me. This sort of tug-o-war between grunge and glam I guess.


Precisely my sentiments as well. Very much my history and feelings about them. And yes, I think that tug-o-war you describe is quite accurate part of my fascination as well. It's well put.

Which is also why I feel kind of bad for them as a "band." As musicians.They really were a fucking standout show to me around their "peak" time. I honestly think there is a lot of interesting musicianship in some of that earlier stuff that people easily dismiss and cast aside as just another "grunge" band. Some pretty out-there songwriting on Purple and Vatican, honestly, that just seemed to work for me. And the brothers are really solid at their instuments.

Like said, I just sort of cast them off after all the later zaniness as most did. Almost went to their show when they came through with Chester but held off, specifically cuz I did not want to tarnish my fonder memories of them. I wanted to remember them as they were. Kind of sad, really. But hearing you describe that album as you did there makes me really want to go check this out. I think we are on pretty much the same wave about them. Honestly, I need to listen to the previous one as well. Never did entertain listening to that yet, either.

Savage Clone 03.16.2018 11:10 AM

New Gnod looks to be a corker.

noisereductions 03.16.2018 12:22 PM

oh man, totally forgot that there's also a new Dean Ween album today too.

_tunic_ 03.16.2018 12:38 PM

Any Ben Frost fans out here? Listened to the one track that's streaming of his new EP and liked it. Not sure if that's good or bad because I don't really like him ;-) Except live
The EP will be released March 23

Severian 03.16.2018 08:57 PM

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Any Ben Frost fans out here? Listened to the one track that's streaming of his new EP and liked it. Not sure if that's good or bad because I don't really like him ;-) Except live
The EP will be released March 23



YES I AM A BEN FROST FAN.

As I have made clear many times on this board, only to be mocked by what’shisname — guest or whatever. Not... like... real enough stuff for self-respecting music fans er some blah.

But yes. Ben Frost. Fan. Right here.

Didn’t know there was *another* EP coming out, so thank you... not I’m excited!


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