you're talking about "Surf"? no need to worry then. Chance is just a guest on a few songs on that album, and it'll be released as a Donnie Trumpet & The Social Experiment project. his solo album will come out later this year.

Why Chance The Rapper Is Forgoing Solo Fame To Make Jazzy Songs With Friends
http://www.thefader.com/2015/01/29/c...nt-cover-story

Big Sean - Dark Sky Paradise

1. Dark Sky (Skyscrapers)
2. Blessings (Feat. Drake)
3. All Your Fault (Feat. Kanye West)
4. I Don't Fuck With You (Feat. E-40)
5. Play No Games (Feat. Chris Brown & Ty Dolla $ign)
6. Paradise (Extended)
7. Win Some, Lose Some
8. Stay Down
9. I Know (Feat. Jhené Aiko)
10. Deep (Feat. Lil Wayne)
11. One Man Can Change the World (Feat. Kanye West & John Legend)
12. Outro

Only One video, directed by Spike Jonze: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WibQR0tQ0P8

beautiful.

Nice supporting cast! Two Kanye tracks? I'm into it.
Looks like a solid record. Could be Sean's big break.

I've been listening to Sorry For The Wait 2 quite a bit. I can't say I'm really that floored by the quality of the verses, but they lyrics certainly suck less than they have in some time. Still, bitching about the villainous record label is not generally much of a topical improvement over bragging about how much pussy you eat.

I'm being hard on Wayne because he's the kind of artist that should be judged harshly. He's capable of doing great things, so I'm not going to give him a standing ovation for barely managing to surpass complete mediocrity. It wouldn't be fair to him.

He's never sounded so brittle. He's talking like a boss, but he hasn't been one in some time. Not really. It's nice to hear him talk about sending his thugs out to bring him "head proof," but from a technical perspective he's still just scraping by... It's hard to imagine that this is the dude who declared himself the Best Rapper Alive, and actually managed to convince most of the world that this was the god's honest truth, and not just the hubris of a hype-inflated ego.

He sounds like he might still have his balls intact... But all of this backstory shit begs the question: WHY? Why, specifically, is Carter V being held hostage? Is it too "radical" for those softies over at Cash Money? If that's the case, why was he able to release a million singles, ostensibly from the album, without any protest from the execs? Christ, is he just buying time? If those singles weren't from CV, then what the fuck were they, other than disappointing and totally shitty?

And why is Chris Brown still being featured on the tracks of A-listers? His career should have been dead long ago, and I still try to boycot him as much as possible. But if that guy has any true friends in the industry then hip hop really does need to make some changes.

acutally three. he has a hidden verse at the end of Blessings too (which i posted in the last page). and yeah the more Kanye the better. :)

what do you guys think about the Only One video? not gonna lie, i teared up a bit the first time i watched it. Kanye and Spike Jonze did it again.

he isn't going anywhere as long as there's an army of teenage girls behind him. same with Justin Bieber. at least the latter recently apologized for being a douchebag.

I haven't seen the video. Truthfully, I've tried to steer clear of Kanye videos for the most part. Ever since I gave in and became a straight-up fan, I've really tried to let my relationship with Kanye West exist only in the sonic space between his music and my ears.

I read about him, but I am picky about what I read. I stay away from smear stories and comedy sketches. Sometimes I'll watch an interview if It's not linked to me by some biased headline about how "crazy" he is.

Videos have always had a strange effect on me, especially when I see them after really falling for a song. It's because I develop a personal relationship with the song, and it feels pure and true (sorry 4 the cheese); then I see someone else's take on it and I can never unsee it, so if it Fucks with my perception of the song too much, I risk never being able to listen to the song the same way I did when it was just the music and my own imagination (which-- because of my synaesthesia or my Asperger's or my brilliance or my retardedness or whatever-- always seems to add the perfect color, hue, brightness and associative imagery to the music I hear).

Does that make sense? I'm sure you get it-- but does anyone else experience this?

Once in a while a video will do a better job than my own brain (subjectively speaking of course). One of those instances was when the video for "My Hero" by the Fop Fighters came out. I had almost ignored the song, never thinking it as a standout, even in those strange early post-Nirvana years when everything within 2 degrees of separation from Nirvana felt like a blessing. Anyway, I listened to The Colour & The Shape without ever really feeling that song.

When the video came out, as grandstanding as it was, it gave the song a sort of vital importance and heartbreaking urgency. To this day it's one of my favorite videos, and even though the Foos are now the antithesis of all that is good and holy, that song still makes my heart race. I love it. So in that instance it took a better mind than my own to color and shade the music.

But I remember there was a direct correlation between my increasing appreciation of Kanye's music, and my self removal from TV, social media, music journalism and sites like pitchfork. The more I listened to YOU assholes ( ;) ) and the more I listened to the small Kanye library I had, without input from anyone else, the more I liked him. In this time I went from publicly slamming him ("except 808's and MBDTF and WTT") to owning hard copies of all of his albums, and ranking every one of them at least an A-.... Not to mention taking an unscheduled 2 hour lunch so I could run to the store and buy Yeezus the day it hit stores, listening to it in full in my car while I should have been at the office.

So long story short, I'm afraid my now perfect opinion of my now all time top 3 artist will be altered by too much exposure to anything other than his music. My life was a lot more organized pre-Kanye, but it was significantly less interesting, and my love for music was slipping a bit. I don't want to go back.

You can't make me.

;)

new Cannibal Ox track off the new album, featuring DOOM: https://soundcloud.com/ihiphop-distr...f-doom/s-IWHeX

Aw fuck naw!!

i feel like that beat could've been much better with a few touches.. still fire though. DOOM killed it, as expected.

Cannibal Ox and El-P was a perfect match. i'm upset that he didn't produce anything on the new album, to be honest.

Understandable. It pisses me off too. It was the match of artist and producer that made Cannibal Ox so special. It's like ... A Madvillain sequel that didn't have any Madlib beats. Or a Deltron sequel without Automator, KidKoala, etc.

Why the hell ISN'T El-P on the record? He didn't produce the Gotham shit either, whatever the fuck that was.

It's kinda like buying that "Return of Dr Octagon" album and realizing that it was totally not Dr. Octagon. It was just some fucking live group using canned Keith rhymes. Now that pissed me off. I was not big on music news at the time so I had no idea the project was whack until I bought it.

THIS IS HIP HOP (the gad)
Jah
Blaze Up
Supply and Demand

What a surprise... Reggae songs titled "Jah" and "Blaze Up"... What's next, cats named Fluffy? No way. Too much for brain. Brain death, now.

Wait, you were supposed to actually click the links and check out the music and the ridiculously great flow that Midnite brings to it. Just click The Gad, i personally guarantee that one track involves more complex rhyme patterns and cadence than ANYTHING in your hip hop collection, seen?

You realized that blaze up also has NOTHING to do with weed? But you know, maybe the simpleton music i listen too isnt as complex as that 3 6 mafia shit you be bumpin
And you did realize reggae is one OF the foundation of hip-hop?

FUUUUUCKKK.. Dead Prez doin "Lets Get Free" live at one of my favorite venues FOR FIVE BUCKS (!!!!!) but I can't make it yo.. got nite class and work the next morning.. grrrrrrrrrr.. that record is in my top 5 of records that single handedly changed my life along with Bob Marley Natty Dread, Sleater-Kinney Dig Me Out, Makaveli Seven Day Theory, and Jimi Hendrix Woodstock.. (ok honorable mention for Grateful Dead Anthem to the Sun but generally speaking I don't listen to Dead albums, just live show bootlegs)

I was just messing with you. Regarding your guarantee about the Gad, it's not true. You haven't seen my hip hop collection. Maybe you think all I like is production-and-beat centered acts like Yeezy. And while I do love that shit (good production is as necessary to good hip hop in 2015 as a good DJ was to the first era rap's golden age) I also listen to technical shit, as you know from our conversations about E40.

I'm just not into contemporary reggae, mate. No offense. I love a lot of what came out of the genre in the 70's, but I can't really get into the newer incarnations of it. That said, there has obviously always been a massive reggae influence in hip hop and there still is. Nobody would deny that.

But let's talk about new hip hop ok?

Did y'all hear the late 2014 SpaceGhostPurrp release that dropped in December? It's available on Spotify now.

No, you took that wrong way in your disdain for reggae. I didn't mention midnite's rapping to imyply your shit sucks so much as to point out just how good Midnite is. Click the link and decide for yourself. Also, i AM talking about hip hop, click the links and decide for yourself

how does kanye west get away with writing fucking ipod commercial trash, much less be branded a genius in so doing? swear to god if his stuff got put up on youtube by some pasty, zit-covered amateur white teen girl it would be a fucking laughing stock. hype can do incredible things when thrust upon the imbeciles of this planet.

hip hop fans seem to comprehend genius on terms totally divorced from the actual objective quality of the music.

have no idea what you're talking about, to be honest. lol.

why are you worried about what other people like?

Who is surprised? If you and severian were curious why you two have been more or less talkimg to yourselves on this thread its because y'all have been one dimensional in past few months

this is the future of art......??? 21st century vanguard(s....)





I don't care about what people like so much as I care about wholly undeserving individuals being the benefactors of falsified personality cults. there are artists far more deserving of adoration than this hack whose sole redeeming works (however scant they may be) can be attributed to his producers.

I'm confused. Are you talking about Kanye? Cuz his best works were produced by... Kanye.

What is this "objective quality of music" you speak of?

Art without possesses no non-subjective quality. You need a tool by which to measure quality before you can make statements about the "quality" of music. People who don't like Mozart are gonna say Mozart "sucks."

This is why art is art. If art was science, you'd probably have something to gripe about.

All you're really saying is that you don't like Kanye West. So why don't you just say that, instead of acting as though it's everyone else's problem for liking him? It's more respectful and respectable.

As brilliant as Bach was, I'm always going to prefer Aphex Twin, and Thurston Moore's extended feedback jams. Am I wrong to feel this way? Impossible to say.

Kanye shits all over Mozart and Bach too. haha

What the fuck man?

You're fucking up our thread!

And you obviously know about as much about Kanye West as my cat knows about Russian literature. There are sooooo many artists who deserve their hype less than Kanye West does.

Hell, Paul McCartney's a fan.

Leave us, sir.
I SAID LEAVE US!

i agree with that!

I don't think we've been talking to ourselves.
louder? Have we?

No. I know for a FACT that NR say tons of stuff too.

Where have you been, Slambang?

with nemo, in slumberland

see you tomorrow

hahahaha, is this guy upset because Kanye made a brief appearance on a Rihanna single? by the way, i didn't even like that song and Kanye's feature was terrible.

OK now i finally get it. he probably said that cuz he read the interview with Bjork where she talked about Kanye, here's what she said:


i'm sorry, i love Bjork but that was really ignorant..

apologies for any confusion, am working through some real emotional trauma with this at the minute. also 95% trolling but hey I'm fucking bemused.

expanding on my thought process, take yeezus as west's artistic zenith: while I can appreciate how brazen that record must sound from a mainstream perspective, the fact remains that musically speaking it accomplishes nothing, WHICH WOULD BE FINE were the man not revered as if he is some deity, a man who is somehow burdened by the greatest bout of creativity ever known to humankind. it's almost as if kanye west as an individual has been supplanted by the notional kanye, kanye the god, to the point where this frankly dull self-constructed characterisation has rendered his music irrefutably worthy of veneration so to speak. and while I can tolerate this TO A POINT, when you start making starbucks R&B pop with paul mccartney, whose presence on this frankly atrocious song does little but tarnish his already faded legacy I think that we as a purportedly discerning (or so it may have once seemed) listenership must re-evaluate. I mean mccartney's presence is indistinguishable to the point where were it not mccartney the instrumental would go unnoticed.

what I'm saying is that the kanye west/rihanna/mccartney track sounds like sandi fucking thom, and yet our fundamentally cynical society is so blinded by the non-existent 'west enigma' as to fail to recognise that yes, this music is OBJECTIVELY SHIT. OBJECTIVELY. IRREFUTABLY. FUCKING. SHITE. BALLS. SCROTUM.

xoxo

i don't think anyone here will disagree. you gotta keep in mind Kanye was only a small part of that track though, about 10 people were credited for writing alone. why i have no idea.

in the eyes of the public, Kanye gets more unwarranted hate than anything, despite how amazing his last two solo albums were. most people just write him off solely for being known as an "asshole" without giving his music a chance. just go to pretty much any social media website and read the comments about him.