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The stadium Rock one?
It was better than I thought - although they did spend an unreasonable amount of time on The Police. Lot's of Springsteen which might bore a few here but i'm a fan so, no probs there. I still find it weird the way that Guns n Roses have been totally written out of the whole thing. I'm not saying they were the MOST important but they surely deserve SOME kind of coverage, at least. |
^Nah i've seen that one, there was the Alternative rock one yesterday so I was wondering about that.
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It was ok. Nothing new to add.
Concentrating on REM so much was a bit odd, the dullest of the 80's college rock bands. And no mention of SY at all, unless I blinked and missed it. |
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you did blink and miss it. not so much a 'verbal' mention, but definately a 'visual' and 'aural' one. as an intro to the programme a set of images were flashed across the screen as if to say 'here's what we'll cover this week' . . . and about 3-5 seconds of that was dirty era kim in shades and thurston going ape with a drumstick in his guitar . . . shortly after, a snippet of daydream nation was played over the top of some REM story . . . . i was waiting for it, but it never came. oh, and they showed a sonic youth tour poster during the black flag bit, but not once were they mentioned properly . . . . which i thought was a fucking disgrace . .. since they'd hinted at it . .. . |
It certainly concentrated on the blander side of 'alternative rock': REM, Replacements, Pixies, Pearl Jam. Probably the least 'alternative' of all the rock bands of the time.
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Absolutely fucking shite. This documentary series is the leader of all things shite in the world. Hiroshima is a fucking vicarage tea party compared to the shitty ages of rock, it's such an atrocity. It's a fucking show for the blind lead by a one-eyed person with fucking cataracts. Not only did they only devote half a fucking minute to bands other than R.E.M. and Nirvana on this shitty "Left of the Dial" so-called show, they fucking couldn't even fucking pronounce Husker Du properly. Nirvana were barely even fucking influenced by them. Now we'll have a few fucking generations of Britons who fucking think that the only thing '80s America produced was a handful of shitty jangly R.E.M. ditties, and there goes a whole section of music's history. I wouldn't wish the seven ages of rock on anyone. The title of the show doesn't even deserve fucking capital letters.
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hahaha, what'd they say? |
I can't pronounce Husker Du properly. But then I don't think they're all that great so I'm not that bothered.
This was bound to be shit. The reason they focussed on REM so much was because they are easily the most popular of the 80s alternative bands and people like them. Let's face it, the general public don't want any kind of in depth coverage, or any coverage, of bands like The Butthole Surfers, Sonic Youth et al. Black Flag was probably only in there at all because Rollins is a pretty gregarious guy who gives a good interview. |
It was never going to be perfect but the programme yesterday was very dissappointing. At the start i thought it was going to be a television version of Our Band Could be your life which would have been great but there was far too much Nirvana and REM. I recognised one of the TRilogy parts from Daydream Nation near the start but i dont think Sonic Youth were mentioned at all, and seeing how the main thrust was Nirvana rather than 80s indie rock (it was basically Nirvana and REM not "alternative rock", though that term repulses me) youd think theyd highlight all the other stuff more than they did. Im really only a casual Nirvana fan but surely theres much more to mention than what they did. Still, i wasnt expecting much anyway and they did put up some Black Flag, possibly because they had Rollins in an interview.
But for any youngsters looking for something more than Nirvana there were nothing more than passing references to other bands from the time, and thats the worst thing |
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Someone said Husker as you pronounce Busker |
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After a couple of half-promising episodes at the start, this series has turned into the worst bland, idiots-guide overview load of nonsense I've ever seen. Last night's show was worse than pointless. They should have just let Rollins speak for the full 60 minutes.
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if i had wanted to see a nirvana documentary i already have a few i could have watched instead.
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But.......they did have a (brief) interview with Kim Deal, that made me spend the whole day listening to Breeders albums.....and we got to see how badly Krist Novoselic has aged.
Did anyone else buy that Sweet 75 album he released, one of the worst records of all time. |
i loved kim deal, she was awesome!!! amd they did play part of a sonic youth song during some scene. just no mention of them, which is a shame.
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Kim Deal's haircut now is awful though.
Get back on MSN screamingskull! |
okay okay!
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hah - i missed the one episode I wanted to see... doesnt sound like i missed much though.
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So you were the other person who bought it? |
i tried to buy it but i never saw it anywhere
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Yeah, taught me not to buy something without listening to it first. |
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I was one of those who bought it, listened to the first song and forgot about it all. In fact if they weren't mentioned on this thread, I would have totally erased their existence from my memory. |
the alternative episode was a huge let down but when they first mentioned r.e.m. i had a feeling it was going to be. this series is poor and im afraid the bbc has dropped the ball on this one! their dancing in the streets series from 1996/7 was ten times better.....
more 4 showed don letts punk:attitude last nite, go out and buy that on dvd, it is worth every penny, rollins (of whom i am not a lover of at all) is dead funny in it.......... |
sweet 75.... yep i bought it. it sucks big time. but not as much as the eyes adrift album
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It was a repeat. Next episode will be all about Oasis and Blur and The Libertines.
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The whole series has been a big disappointment so far. The bands that they've chosen to give overwhelming air-time to has definitely been, on occasions, bizarre. Which doesn't mean to say that I haven't thoroughly enjoyed watching each episode.
Watching Rollins on the Alt America one, I have to say that I'm starting to come around to his personality in a way that I never thought possible. Now I find myself laughing WITH him, rather than just AT him - as was once the case. |
For anyone who might not be aware, Lou Reed will be discussing his new tour on A Culture Show Special at 23:30 on BBC 2 tonight.
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Is that the Berlin thingy? |
Didn't say. Read a short bit on teletext.
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There was about a two second clip from Year Punk Broke of Thurston jamming his guitar around the stage during I Love Her All The Time in a montage of '90s' 'alternative' bands... |
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suede.
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Episode 6/7 is going to be repeated tomorrow on BBC FOUR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007r4t0 The rock marathon continues with the story of the contrasting fates of two of America's biggest, most authentic bands: Nirvana and REM and the hidden links between them that almost saved the life of troubled Nirvana singer Kurt Cobain. In 1991, Nirvana's Nevermind album launched the 'grunge' explosion that put the Seattle music scene on the map and gave a voice to the alienated youth pushed to one side by the Reagan revolution. But Cobain was a reluctant idol who struggled to cope with his new status and his band's growing mainstream appeal. Nirvana had their roots in the underground and college music scene pioneered by bands like REM and Pixies and this programme tells how REM also ended up gravitating towards Seattle, where a friendship developed between lead singer Michael Stipe and Cobain. In the end it was not enough to save Cobain, who killed himself in 1994, but his triumph and tragedy continues to cast a powerful shadow over the whole of rock. |
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