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acousticrock87 07.07.2008 04:18 AM

Boring is a terrible subjective adjective, unless I'm the one using it.

greedrex 07.07.2008 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
Boring is a terrible subjective adjective, unless I'm the one using it.


yeah i know sorry
i'm going to add more nuance to this
Beck is shit
as shitty as the Rolling Stones:eek:

greedrex 07.07.2008 04:32 AM

but the three first LPs are good

acousticrock87 07.07.2008 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex
as shitty as the Rolling Stones:eek:

Okay, now you're just being cruel. No one deserves that.

ZEROpumpkins 07.07.2008 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex
as shitty as the Rolling Stones:eek:

I will jizz all over your face.

And not in a good way.

greedrex 07.07.2008 07:12 AM

he he that was my " be controversial" moment of the day.

ZEROpumpkins 07.07.2008 07:21 AM

Mine too.

MellySingsDoom 07.07.2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
this album recieved good reviews. for expample in NME.


I'd thought that the NME are too busy sucking the collective cocks of Chris Martin, Pete Doherty and Bobby Gillespie to have any time to giving stuff proper reviews. They're bigger whores than the ladies of the Reeperbahn.

ZEROpumpkins 07.07.2008 07:49 AM

Phhht, Pete Doherty. Now there's a tosser if there ever were one.

greedrex 07.07.2008 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Phhht, Pete Doherty. Now there's a tosser if there ever were one.

now wait a minute, is he:
- a twat
- a cunt
- a twatty cunt
- a cunty twat
?
huh?
http://images.google.fr/url?q=http:/...cDoMrtGcc7ZGVg

sarramkrop 07.07.2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
today is premiere of beck's new album.


Torch the premiere.

PAULYBEE2656 07.07.2008 03:26 PM

ok, im gonna add my 2 cents worth in. ive just finished listening to the album for the first time.. straight through whilst doing some shit around the house... gave it a proper listen... and all i can say is a resounding..."meh".

its not shite as in piss poor razorlight or coldplay shite.. by no means is it the worst album ive ever heard but its just meh, i prefer beck when he was a bit out of tune and a bit more stoned...albeit designer stoned "man"...

steve threw up is and always will be his masterstroke!

mil_pl 07.08.2008 07:39 AM

i prefer more adult beck like sea change or modern guilt. I hate mellow gold. i like his electronics, beats and his vox in infromation (cellphones down) and modern guilt (youthless, walls, replica)

Danny Himself 07.08.2008 09:42 AM

OK I bought this album today, a review will follow when I am done listening to Ill Communication.

mil_pl 07.08.2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
OK I bought this album today, a review will follow when I am done listening to Ill Communication.


Ill Communication rules man!

Danny Himself 07.08.2008 05:08 PM

Alright, I suppose I expected to be giving another 'meh' and yes, my rating for the album is a disappointed 'meh'.

Walls and Modern Guilt are my favourites, but it seems like Danger Mouse put more effort into this than Beck did. Something tells me Beck has pushed himself too far away from his roots to even remember what they were.

acousticrock87 07.08.2008 09:26 PM

I read that Danger Mouse was having a hard time keeping up with Beck, actually, that he'd go to bed while Beck worked late into the night. Could have just been a friendly publicity statement, though.

therealglenstyler 07.09.2008 03:49 AM

honestly i'm surprised this inspired a seven page thread, everything i've heard off this (and indeed anything of becks for the last however long it is since sea change) is a big shrug, both from beck and the listener.

ZEROpumpkins 07.09.2008 03:57 AM

Sea change blew too
Same with Mutations.

therealglenstyler 07.09.2008 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Sea change blew too
Same with Mutations.


eerily you picked out the only two beck records i have any stomach for...is it bad that I have awful taste in beck?

ZEROpumpkins 07.09.2008 07:10 AM

Whatever floats your boat really. But for what I'd consider "classic" Beck, his first two albums are where it's at.

atsonicpark 07.09.2008 07:21 AM

they have two turntables and a microphone.

Danny Himself 07.09.2008 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Sea change blew too
Same with Mutations.


Mutations is fantastic! What is there to dislike about it?

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Originally Posted by therealglenstyler
honestly i'm surprised this inspired a seven page thread, everything i've heard off this (and indeed anything of becks for the last however long it is since sea change) is a big shrug, both from beck and the listener.



I'm so very disappointed that I have to shrug at it. You could dance to Guero, you could sing along to the choruses in The Information, but this is something else. I think I do need to spend more time with it, but it's nothing like when I first played Stereopathetic Soulmanure on a walkman in the back of a car on some dusty Wyoming highway, or when I rapped along to Odelay in my bedroom when I was 14 or something. It's sad that Beck has gone from being one of my biggest heroes (thats him in my avatar) to just a huge scientologist let-down.

mil_pl 07.09.2008 08:04 AM

but, what you care about that he is a scientologist? it's nothing compared with his records, so fuck it, and we dont have to talk about it. faith is faith, i hate catholic church, so? 90% of people are catholics. and i dont talk/think about it.

EyeballGrowth 07.09.2008 08:10 AM

I don't know if I'll like it. Haven't been impressed with what I've heard so far, and 2 of the songs have Cat Power. I fucking haaaate cat power.

Plus ____________________________________He's a scientologist

EyeballGrowth 07.09.2008 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Whatever floats your boat really. But for what I'd consider "classic" Beck, his first two albums are where it's at.


FUCK yes. Mellow Gold, Stereopathetic Soul Manure, and the Loser single are my faves. Odelay isn't bad either

Danny Himself 07.09.2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
but, what you care about that he is a scientologist? it's nothing compared with his records, so fuck it, and we dont have to talk about it. faith is faith, i hate catholic church, so? 90% of people are catholics. and i dont talk/think about it.


90% of people are Catholics? What?!

Anyway, I'm bringing his scientology into this because since the press started hounding him about his involvement in the cult (around 2002), his records have gotten considerably worse. When people didn't know about it and just left him alone, his records were fantastic.

EyeballGrowth 07.09.2008 08:23 AM

THANK you. I'm not the only one who thinks his music HAS gotten worse since his Scientology.

mil_pl 07.09.2008 08:27 AM

no his music is not worse since this. people just think about that he is a scientolgist, and are sayin his music is shit. i didnt know that he is s. about 2 years ago i found out this, and i thought 'whatever' im not his body, im not his mother, i just enjoy his music.
 

EyeballGrowth 07.09.2008 08:30 AM

Guero was a pile of garbage

Danny Himself 07.09.2008 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EyeballGrowth
Guero was a pile of garbage


Nah!

Sea Change
has been his worst album to date. Fair enough, he'd just broken up with his girlfriend of many years, but there was no need to force an album on us that was essentially the forerunner of James Blunt. 'Lost Cause' was a great song, but the rest is still too hard to sit through without screaming 'FOR FUCK'S SAKE!'. Maybe it's Godrich's fault, I don't know.

Guero has some great moments. 'E-Pro' is Beck at the top of his rock and roll game. 'Que Onda, Guero?' has a really great rhythm to it, the lyrics to 'Missing' are some of his best of all time, the rolling beats and bass of 'Black Tambourine' are dance-tastic, and when the tremelo'd guitar comes in, fuck! Too good.

nicfit 07.09.2008 08:49 AM

Sea Change has amazing strings arrangments and great sounds.

EyeballGrowth 07.09.2008 08:50 AM

E PRO??? good god. You are correct about Sea Change though. It's like Beck did lead vocals for a James Blunt album

Danny Himself 07.09.2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
Sea Change has amazing strings arrangments and great sounds.


I don't like strings that sound that clear. I want them to be screeching and whining idiosyncratically, like on a Bright Eyes album. Maybe if Nigel Godrich hadn't produced that album it would have been more listenable.

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Nah, this is the Beck I like;

 

acousticrock87 07.09.2008 01:51 PM

I don't think I can say I like a certain Beck CD more than another. It fluctuates. Every CD has it's good spots, and I can stomach them all at one time or another. Even though some CDs have bad qualities (like Sea Change's lyrics, or the Information's lack of variety), I can enjoy them all if I'm in the right mood.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 07.09.2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
I'm kind of the opposite. I've always liked him, but I have no idea why. He doesn't strike me as very smart, his music isn't great, and he's not a very interesting person. But I do like him.



Yeah, he's just fun bubblegum indie rock

EyeballGrowth 07.09.2008 09:09 PM

To give him some more recent credit. The Information was good. That one impressed me. Heh I didn't even put any stickers on my cover, I stuck them all over bathroom wall in my apartment.

Nothing beats beck's early music though. I love it so so so much. Bust out the biscuits! Ah yeah, gettin all uptight! My goodness

acousticrock87 07.09.2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballGrowth
My goodness

He's the only person I can hear saying that without wanting to punch them in the face. And maybe Natalie Portman. Maybe.

Tickerwelly 07.09.2008 10:35 PM

I find this to be a statement album. Besides Sea Change Beck was never direct in his lyrics and to hear him accept the apocalypse like he does on Modern Guilt is amazing. Profanity Prayers is the ultimate summer song and the line in "Volcano" about warming his bones on the womb of the world gives me goosebumps.

ZEROpumpkins 07.09.2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballGrowth
THANK you. I'm not the only one who thinks his music HAS gotten worse since his Scientology.

He was raised as a Scientologist.


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