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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
out of curiousity, started to watch the skins/eagles game and OH THE MISERY.

i couldn't make it past the first half. it was like witnessing a murder in progress.


That is football. In fact, much like when the same thing happens in a soccer game, this was a battle of two completely different halves. In the first half, Eagles played some of the fastest, more break-neck and break peoples' neck on defense football I've ever seen. The second half? They couldn't possibly keep it up, so they switched to the classic college format, run the ball up the other teams ass to shave the clock one contested yard at a time. There was no way Eagles were going to keep the pace of the first half up the entire game, and its not a surprise the Redskins warmed up, caught a break, and got the game within a single touchdown finish. In that regard, it wasn't a murder at all, but an ass beating followed by a quick recovery. Had Redskins pulled off the win, it would have been considered about as epic a win as Denver pulled off against Baltimore. By the way, that final Ravens-Broncos score is deceiving, while Ravens got obliterated in the second half, in the first they totally dominated possessions and were up 17-14 in what could have been 28-14.. Baltimore like Philly couldn't keep their defense up in the second half, and had an epic implosion on offense because of injuries to Oher, which left Flacco vulnerable on the left side to QB hits and sacks.


I'm SOOOOOO damned happy for Michael Vick. Andy Reid initially revived Vick's career, but then came to destroy it. Last year, Reid was such a terrible coach that people almost forgot that Michael Vick got out of prison, in his fourth start annihilated the Redskins scoring 4TDs in the air, and rushing for 2 TDs HIMSELF, in what is still remembered as an all-time great game. However, last year was so bad, people forgot all about that 11-5 playoff right out of prison Vick, and honestly thought about Nick Foles. Foles? Over Vick? Vick is the ONLY QB in NFL history to both pass for over 20,000 yards and also RUSH for over 5,000 in his career. Nick Foles.... hahahahahahahah!! See ya on the bench Matt Barkley ;)

Bytor Peltor 09.10.2013 04:20 PM

Vick looked good in Chip Kelly's system. There is do doubt it will give him opportunity go take advantage of situations.

However, running as many plays as the Eagles will, Michael will end up being hit twice as many times and time will tell if his body will be able to handle the abuse.

With Andy Reid's son dying the week before the season started, it was hard to imagine Andy or the team having a successful season.

!@#$%! 09.10.2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
That is football.

i know, but it's my old home team, and watching it get trampled like that was a bit much. kinda like running into your old girlfriend nigella who married the wife beater.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i know, but it's my old home team, and watching it get trampled like that was a bit much. kinda like running into your old girlfriend nigella who married the wife beater.


Again, then you would have especially enjoyed the second half where RG3 threw for over 300 yards, had 2 TDs, and got the Redskins within a chance to win!Literally, the Eagles were starting to shit it. By the way, I feel your pain, I'm a Ravens fan and I had to sit through the second half of that Broncos disaster last week :mad:

!@#$%! 09.10.2013 06:15 PM

yes, i know, i know. she clawed back and defended herself and almost survived the beating.



(also, like almost everyone else who lives/has lived in the dc area, i hate dan snyder)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Vick looked good in Chip Kelly's system. There is do doubt it will give him opportunity go take advantage of situations.

However, running as many plays as the Eagles will, Michael will end up being hit twice as many times and time will tell if his body will be able to handle the abuse.

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With Andy Reid's son dying the week before the season started, it was hard to imagine Andy or the team having a successful season.
Interestingly, that wasn't what killed it, it wasn't Reid being distracted or busy with grieving, the opposite, Reid over-worked the Eagles offense, had Vick trying to many non-Vick things convincing Vick he could become a pocket-passer. Instead, you saw Vick over-thinking it on every play and subsequently getting hit or sacked mercilessly as the Eagles o-line also by bad coincidence collapsed under injuries. Had Reid let Vick be Vick, we would have saw 2010 11-5 playoff Eagles, not the miserable can't score 8-8 Eagles. To win with Vick you have to (a) have at least one wide-out on every play, (b) only use one back and consider Vick the other while (c) not getting to complicated in the playbook (Vick has some of the best instincts in the game with the fastest snap and epic arm, but if he thinks too much or has too complicated a play he is trying to run, he ends up getting hit). What Vick needs are plays simple enough to allow him in under 3 seconds to decide to either pass it or run himself. If he has to think to much, he doesn't have time to run, and he ends up getting hit.

My only concern is that Kelley's murderously high-paced offense is going to get a QB like Vick hit too many times on the run, and he is going to get hurt. Even McCoy won't survive long getting hit 15-20 times a night for 16 games. It is a double-edged sword, probably ONLY Vick or Peyton Manning could possibly have enough speed and strength of arm to keep up with Chip Kelley's system, but the other side is that playing SO many possessions is going to mathematically translate into more hits per game, and more hits per game translate into more injuries per season. You saw this in the second half, Kelley went classic and tried to slow the game down by focusing almost exclusively on the run game (Vick threw 190yds in the first half, less than 40 in the second half) which slowed the pace, but also got Vick and McCoy HIT LIKE CRAZY. That is simply unsustainable, even if it was fucking ridiculously exciting football to watch :)

Bytor Peltor 09.11.2013 11:09 AM

Vanilla Ica to perform at halftime of the Texans game Sunday.

Rob Instigator 09.11.2013 11:30 AM

I hate Thursday games so much.

Hate them. Fucking NFL cashgrab for their bullshit network.

chocolate_ladyland 09.11.2013 01:21 PM

If Manning and Welker keep their shit together ain't no one stopping the broncos

Bytor Peltor 09.11.2013 01:27 PM

Week Two Power Rankings

Rob Instigator 09.11.2013 01:27 PM

Texans vs Broncos in the AFc Championship? I can see it

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.11.2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Texans vs Broncos in the AFc Championship? I can see it


Possibly, but it requires Texans to play their absolute best football AND for Ed Reed to get healthy enough to play ( a big if this season, now y'all see why the Ravens weren't for any reason going to pay him $8 million, as to Boldin, well he might have been worth it, but with the salary space we saved from trading him we picked up Canty, Dumervil, and Huff, three defenders were crucially needed)..

Broncos, well they got to stay healthy and sharp. Remember Miller is suspended, and Broncos didn't beat Ravens so much as Ravens beat themselves, so we need a larger sample size to really see if Broncos are real deal or is it a bunch of hype blowing up their ass. I mean, honestly, Broncos were favored (turns out their 13-3 record was grossly inflated by a relatively weak strength of schedule, they had literally the easiest schedule in the NFL last year by a sizable margin because simply put, their division is crap and it almost guaranteed 6 wins) almost unanimously to win last year, and look how that turned out for them ;)

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I never thought I'd find Power Rankings that were even MORE shit than the hype machine popularity contest that ESPN spews out every week.

Its like, OK, the Broncos had a great game, sure, they are number one, but why are the Texans fourth? Because they won? Really, the Eagles win one game and their suddenly sixth, even if the first half was epic? I mean, the second half near collapse I think negates Philly out of the top-ten, considering where they were last year. Are the Chiefs really as bad as 18 right now, considering they shut out the Jags and Alex Smith had a near perfect (albeit low yardage) game? They should at least be somewhere around 10-12.. Giants seem fine at 15, statistically they had a top-5 game, but lost, in classic Giants format. Ravens are 21? Really? Considering they still scored 3TDs and were up at the half, are the returning champs, and were in most rankings top ten before the season, how does losing one game to what is admittedly the better team suddenly negate them ALL THE WAY INTO THE BOTTOM 20? Really?

HAHAHAHA.. That Texas bias was so obvious. Texans for no objective reason are fourth, and Ravens (their recent play-off rival) are 21st, also for no objective reason? I'm surprised they didn't diss the Cowboys and put them in the bottom 15 like they did the Chiefs ;)

Bytor Peltor 09.11.2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I never thought I'd find Power Rankings that were even MORE shit than the hype machine popularity contest that ESPN spews out every week.


John McLain is a columnist for the Houston Chronicle and covers the Houston Texans. McLain is highly respected and has covered the NFL for over 30 years.

There is no hype to his rankings. As the Weeks progress, the rankings will change. Before the season started, McLain had the Eagles listed at #23. After a somewhat dominate performance on the road, he moved them up to #6. If the Eagles can win their home opener against the Chargers, they will have the opportunity to move up. If they lose, I'm sure they will drop from the Top Ten.

I'm not defending Mr. McLain and rankings don't mean a damn thing, but as the Weeks progress, I believe you will see his rankings aren't too far off target.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.11.2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

I'm not defending Mr. McLain and rankings don't mean a damn thing, but as the Weeks progress, I believe you will see his rankings aren't too far off target.


We'll see, but I just can't objectively understand why Texans almost let Chargers beat the shit out of them and they/re 4th, and Chiefs went from last place last year to destroying the Jags and they get 18th? The Ravens lost bad, true, but all the way down to 21? SERIOUSLY? Biased if you ask me. Eagles played GREAT, I get that, but six? When they almost let Redskins come back and win? Again, the guy may know his shit, and have almost as many years in the analyst game as I've been alive BUT, I still don't understand how he designed these rankings, it almost seems completely arbitrary.

I didn't meant to imply his was hype, that is ESPN, but even the over-hyped rankings on ESPN seem to better reflect the current standings than this one.

Bytor Peltor 09.11.2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Chiefs went from last place last year to destroying the Jags and they get 18th?


I can't speak for Mr. McClain, but I believe this one is fairly simple.

In his pre-season rankings, McClain had the Jags listed #31 (predicted 2nd to worse NFL team before season started). KC dominated the game, but based on the pre-season rankings, KC was predicted to.

I'm guessing if KC would have beaten a team with a higher pre-season power ranking (say the Top 10-15), KC would have climbed up even higher.

Yes - the Eagles dominated the first half and almost blew it in the 2nd half. The exact opposite is true for the Texans. They were dominated the first three quarters (and a few minutes of the 4th trailing 28-7 in the 4th) and still found a way to win.

With the Texans being back to back Division / playoff winners, I'm guessing this is why they started the season with a Top Ten ranking. The Eagles (not a playoff team) defeated a playoff team on the road and I'm guessing this is why they climbed as high as they did in Week One.

Rob Instigator 09.11.2013 02:46 PM

You try to play full contact football from 10PM-1AM. That is what the Texans had to do essentially, having to play opening night in San Diego.

Rob Instigator 09.11.2013 02:49 PM

Andre Johnson will be the first Texan in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

David Carr was the first Texan in the Pro Football Hall of SHAME

Bytor Peltor 09.11.2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Andre Johnson will be the first Texan in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

David Carr was the first Texan in the Pro Football Hall of SHAME


Andre Johnson's last eight games played: 78 catches / 1147 yards

By comparison, this was Steve Smith's entire 2012 season: 73/1174

Shameful as it was in Houston, Carr stayed in the league for a long time.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.11.2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I can't speak for Mr. McClain, but I believe this one is fairly simple.

In his pre-season rankings, McClain had the Jags listed #31 (predicted 2nd to worse NFL team before season started). KC dominated the game, but based on the pre-season rankings, KC was predicted to.


That may be true, but Bill Barnwell had a great analysis where he pointed out rare shut-out are, even against absolute shit teams. For example, the average score last year was I think was above 16 ppg, which suggests that even the WORST teams should be expected to score. So even shutting out a shit team is significant accomplishment, especially factoring in just last season Kansas City was the only team WORSE than Jacksonville or Oakland. That has to be factored. They have a NEW coach, a NEW starting QB, and several new players, and instead of regressing they improved, significantly at that! In other words, the guy totally shit on the Chiefs accomplishment this weekend. If the Eagles win puts them in sixth, the Chiefs definitely should put them between 12-15..

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Yes - the Eagles dominated the first half and almost blew it in the 2nd half. The exact opposite is true for the Texans. They were dominated the first three quarters (and a few minutes of the 4th trailing 28-7 in the 4th) and still found a way to win.

True, but we can't factor out the reality that Texans defense let an absolute shit team like the Chargers eat them for breakfast, lunch, afternoon snack, and ALMOST dinner. Yes, I think Texans are rightfully somewhere between 8-12 this year, but fourth? Really? For almost letting Phillip Rivers of all boneheaded QBs beat them?

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The Eagles (not a playoff team) defeated a playoff team on the road and I'm guessing this is why they climbed as high as they did in Week One.
I can see that, but again, Eagles still ended up almost blowing that game, so it negates the improvement from last season, and puts them out of the top-10 for me, and don't get me wrong, I LOVE Michael Vick and am totally rooting for them to make the top-10, but this weekend didn't cut it..

Bytor Peltor 09.12.2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
You try to play full contact football from 10PM-1AM. That is what the Texans had to do essentially, having to play opening night in San Diego.



As a team, the Texans were slow going to start the game. However, the Texans defense was unbelievable holding the Chargers to TEN yards of offense in their final five possessions:

Five running plays = 2 yards
Nine passing plays = 8 yards

ZERO first downs

Grand total of 90 yards in the entire 2nd half.

Keep in mind this domination was done without Antonio Smith nor Ed Reed suiting up.

Can't wait to see how well they perform when not starting a game so late at night.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.12.2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Keep in mind this domination was done without Antonio Smith nor Ed Reed suiting up.
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Good luck with that. Personally, I don't think Ed will suit up for at least 6 games if not missing the entire season. In Ozzie we trust!!! I don't want Ed to be hurt, he is one of my all-time favorite players, but it is what it is, and Ed wasn't himself last year, and his injuries have caught up with him this year.





 


Of course we still could have used even a limping Ed Reed on the field, Peyton obliterated our secondary, Huff and Williams looked like they had never played safety in their lives, even though Denver was running most simply passing routes. Ed would have been choreographing Huff like a defensive coach, that and Peyton like last season in the play-offs would have been scared to throw that deep just on his history with Ed alone.

Peyton didn't complete more than a handful of deep passes in that play-off game, he didn'd even attempt more than a handful. Ed wasn't himself last year, in fact, when QBs did test him, he got blown by FIFTEEN TIMES, including for a score. However, Peyton (and Tom Brady too) must not have gotten the memo, because they didn't challenge Ed. Had they thrown deep, Broncos might have exploited that weakness and won the game. However, Ed is as much as coach as a player, his intuition about football is almost prophetic, so when he directed Pollard and Ihedigbo even when too injured to make an impact by tackling himself. In that regard, we miss Ed. Our coordinators got to get in Huff and Williams ear, and I actually at this point miss Pollard more since Ed is hurt and wouldn't be playing even if still in Baltimore. He was our certified Patriot killer, he was a hard but clean hitting muthafucka in the secondary, simply put, it Pollard was on the field last thursday, instead of blowing by Huff for two deep touchdowns, fucking Bronco's Thomas would have been knocked out of the game scoreless ;)



 


FUCKING SHIT!!! I had to watch the this THREE FUCKING TIMES just to even see who had the ball!!!!! This is the McCoy-Vick combo that I had a bromance with a few years ago. The 2010-2011 Eagles are back. McCoy was the key to that 11-5 year when he was the best RB in the league, and embarrassingly faster than any defender on him. Well.. if the Eagles O-Line can stay even remotely healthy to block for him, he is looking to dominate the league. If Philly is smart enough to avoid all that Dream Team hubris, they just may win a lot of games this year. Two mediocre, out of the play-offs seasons seem to have had a positive effect motivating players to take their careers serious. Also, looking at several of Chip Kelley's more unorthodox line formations, it seems like he is implementing basketball principles of "spacing".

In basketball, spreading the floor with shooters is the key to opening up lanes to drive for easy lay-ups and dunks. The Heat pimp this to 1990s Bulls perfection. People honestly believe they are a 3-point team, even though without a true center the Heat lead the league in dunks, drives, AND points in the paint. Wade and Lebron have never gotten to the rim as much in their careers! How? They line up the floor with known 3-point shooters, who lure defenders out of the pain, opening up lanes for Wade and Lebron and even anybody else like the Bosh or the Birdman or even SuperMario Chalmers to go in on a drive and dunk. Its called spacing or spreading the floor. In NFL, spreading the field usually means sending out receivers on deep routes to distract defenders, but it looks like Kelley is doing something different entirely. Not only are his receivers running decoy routes, but he has lined up his offensive line and formation in a way that doesn't block, but instead opens up lanes for rushing. As long as the few blocking assignments do their job, it works, and it opens the rushing lanes by not clogging them with offensive blockers. It is a genius gamble which people haven't used since the 1950s in football back when it was essentially a run only game. Every defender in the NFL knows Vick can throw 75 yards in the wind in less than 2 seconds, so ain't nobody going to leave a wide-out on the left or right or both wide open to catch a bomber like Torrey Smith in Denver last season. So they cover the receivers, and the backs and tight-ends had wide open lanes to rush like crazy. Its a college strategy, but it worked against a good defense. Now obviously folks will watch the tape, readjust, but essentially, it is an entirely new strategy to NFL football which we haven't even seen the fullest of yet, so I imagine a few more insane games were Vick and McCoy again combine for over 200 yards rushing. ESPECIALLY IF THEY PLAY MY RAVENS, who have had a penchant for letting TE run right through us on short passes and rushes ;)

demonrail666 09.13.2013 07:24 AM

Do you have a special chair for watching sports? I dunno why, I just keep picturing you sat in one.

 

Bytor Peltor 09.14.2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Andre Johnson's last eight games played: 78 catches / 1147 yards

By comparison, this was Steve Smith's entire 2012 season: 73/1174


Dre ready to lay beat down on Tennessee:
 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.14.2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Dre ready to lay beat down on Tennessee:


Did you fucking SEE Titans defense during the pre-season and their first game? Its like, essentially their entire defense have turned into hard hitting muthafuckas like Bernard Pollard!! I miss him already. I think (a) Titans are going to sneak into the playoffs as a Wild Card and (b) they are going to hold Texans to a loss. Chargers almost pulled it up, but their D collapsed, and Titans D will not be as easy an assignment.

17-14 Titans ;)
27-13 Ravens against the Browns
28-23 Falcons over the Rams


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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Do you have a special chair for watching sports? I dunno why, I just keep picturing you sat in one.




Haha.. no. In my bedroom I do sit in a bad ass office chair, and it has been accused of being throne-like. I also have often been said I should be a sports writer/analyst, I ramble on too much. I like sport, but really for the conversations. I follow too many teams, in fact, too many sports, simply to be able to keep up with what anybody is interested in conversation. The funny thing is, aside from my teams, I really don't like sports! A lot of people watch other teams in their sport, like a lot of NFL fans were obsessed with the Niners-Packers game last week, since those are two of the best teams in the NFL. Me? I don't like either, so I could have cared less!! However, even though I didn't watch the game, I found myself reading the recap and box score so I could chat with people about it.

Bytor Peltor 09.15.2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Did you fucking SEE Titans defense during the pre-season and their first game? Its like, essentially their entire defense have turned into hard hitting muthafuckas like Bernard Pollard!! I miss him already. I think (a) Titans are going to sneak into the playoffs as a Wild Card and (b) they are going to hold Texans to a loss. Chargers almost pulled it up, but their D collapsed, and Titans D will not be as easy an assignment.

17-14 Titans ;)
27-13 Ravens against the Browns
28-23 Falcons over the Rams


YES - the Titans defense is very good. The Texans and Titans usually have knock down drag outs and so it was again today.

It wasn't pretty and some of it was down right ugly......but 2 & 0 isn't a bad place to be :D

 


The Houston Texans are the first team since the merger in 1970 to win their first two games on the last play of the game.

DeAndre Hopkins (on my fantasy team) is the first rookie WR to catch a TD pass in overtime since Santonio Holmes in 2006.

Rob Instigator 09.16.2013 08:34 AM

Bernard Pollard used to hit folks for the Texans as well. Always liked him. Go Texans!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.16.2013 01:12 PM

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The Houston Texans are the first team since the merger in 1970 to win their first two games on the last play of the game.

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The Falcons have similar kinds of stats, Matt Ryan has over 22 career fourth quarter winning drives since 2008 BUT this is a double-edged sword, it means the team has poise, confidence, and execution enough to pull off so many improbable wins and YET, this also means the defense was doing bad to be behind so many games. As to Texans, they like Falcons have had a lot of come from behind wins, BUT that means they have as many problems as they have solutions. Its better to just be up than to get up. Buzzer beaters are great for basketball, because there are 82 games to average out any epically close loses, in the NFL? Not so much flexibility. The Bengals would have been the NFC North division leaders (tied-10-6) if one of their wins had been an AFC instead of NFC opponent (Ravens took the tie-breaker based on Conference play), and the year before that the Broncos went to the playoffs in a three-way tie in the AFC West for 8-8 division leader. Had Raiders one a single game in their damned Division, they would have ended their endless play-off drought. One game makes or breaks a season in the NFL. In that regard, its great for the Texans to get the win and lead 2-0, but that they've twice this season been in a position to lose to inferior teams suggests there could be underlying problems to resolve sooner than later.

Ravens? We know our problems. We ain't got any healthy receivers who can actually CATCH the ball. Flacco has had receivers drop THREE TD passes in the end-zone now. THREE!! That doesn't include all the other dropped passes that just killed great drives. Got to catch the ball fuckers. Now folks might be saying, "Boldin Boldin Boldin Boldin.." Yeah, how did that work out for San Francisco last night ;)


 

By the way, Mike Nolan has totally converted Atlanta's defense from "let's just try and hang in there guys" to "lets fuck these dudez up" and its working. Now? Just keep up it up for 4 quarters and Falcons will win the Super Bowl, period.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.17.2013 01:05 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings

ESPN rides sooooo much dick. So Kaep blows it big on the big stage and throws 3 picks like the rookie that everybody forgot he is, and they still sit third? Really?? Honestly the Texans deserve. Eagles drop FIVE slots over a loss where they almost came back to win? Kaep drops two for shitting his pants on national televsion. MEH. Fucking lame ass don't know their football fucks and ESPN should be embarrassed about themselves, its more like TMZ than a sports network. Why do I keep reading them? Right. They're trolls. Its what trolls do. They steal your attention until it dies.

Rob Instigator 09.17.2013 01:08 PM

ESPN is a sack of shit disguised as sports information.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.17.2013 01:16 PM

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ESPN is a sack of shit disguised as sports information.


Yes, but they love the Heat, I love the Heat, alas, they troll me in every damned time! But as to NFL, they truly don't ever have any idea what the fuck they are writing about. Like, EVER! I mean look at Sando's explanation as to why Eagles dropped 5 in a close loss 33-30 at the final seconds..

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There's the track meet everyone expected. Philly averaged 20.4 seconds per play, more than five seconds faster than last week, and gained 8.8 yards per play Sunday.

So you're saying the Eagles played better, yet you drop them significantly as bad as you did the Redskins? Redskins looked like literal shit on the field, they drop five, cool, but the Eagles looked better and they also drop five? Why? So the ESPN popularity contest could fit in? Meh!! Yet I still read it. I'm the bastard then. I can only blame myself..

By the way, that Eagles game was epic, they put up over 500 yards and scored 4 TDs in 19 minutes of total possession!! NINETEEN MINUTES

Rob Instigator 09.17.2013 01:31 PM

My beloved Texans play at Baltimore, then host the Seahawks then at the 49'ers. Goddamn these next three weekends are going to really show what our team is made of.

If we can get 2 out of 3 I will be very very happy and hopeful for a deep playoff run.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.17.2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
My beloved Texans play at Baltimore, then host the Seahawks then at the 49'ers. Goddamn these next three weekends are going to really show what our team is made of.

If we can get 2 out of 3 I will be very very happy and hopeful for a deep playoff run.


Yes, we're looking forward to it, like you, we need to test ourselves and see if our revamped defense can step up to the challenge. Hoping by then some of our new receivers can learn to catch and hold the ball. Too many drops, Flacco is 5-20 on 20yard passes, but its all drops, and not because of bad throws either. Just bad catching. Guys got to step up. We won the Superbowl last season because guys stepped up due to injuries, this season can't be any different. Texans will challenge us significantly.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.18.2013 10:00 PM

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"It's hard, especially with the rule changes and especially with the kind of athletic receivers coming out (of college)," Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor, an 11-year veteran, said. "You've got a lot more basketball-type bodied receivers who can run, who can jump. They don't have to run precise routes. You can just throw it in an area and understand they're going to come down with it. That's what makes it harder."

I agree. I don't often agree with the Steelers, but its not just the rules changes and the heavier handed PI calls, but its the kind of windouts that are coming into the league. Strong, FAST, tall, high jumping receivers are more common than rare, really every team has to have one if not three! We let Boldin go not necessarily just because he was a bit slow (he just wanted too much $$$) but because Ozzie Newsome is quite confident that the crops of new receivers coming in the league are faster versions. However, defense will catch up, there will always be new Ed Reeds in the secondary who shut down the deep threat. For now, let the Matt Staffords and Drew Breeses keep throwing 5,000 yard seasons, defenses will catch up inevitably.

Rob Instigator 09.19.2013 08:14 AM

The Wiz is awesome. Great article about him in MMQB http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/12/ozzie-...timore-ravens/

Bytor Peltor 09.19.2013 12:31 PM

I'm still on vacation mode and haven't read much this week, but here are a few interesting things:

A) only two NFL teams have scored more TD's this season than the Houston Texans. Those teams are QB'd by Peyton Manning and Aaron Rogers.

B) after two weeks, Ben Tate leads the league with 8.2 yards per carry.

C) dating back to 1990, 90% of NFL teams that start the season 0-2 miss the playoffs: Pittsburgh, NY Giants, Washington

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.19.2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I'm still on vacation mode and haven't read much this week, but here are a few interesting things:

A) only two NFL teams have scored more TD's this season than the Houston Texans. Those teams are QB'd by Peyton Manning and Aaron Rogers.

B) after two weeks, Ben Tate leads the league with 8.2 yards per carry.

C) dating back to 1990, 90% of NFL teams that start the season 0-2 miss the playoffs: Pittsburgh, NY Giants, Washington


There is an asterisk, Houston had to set a franchise record in that come from behind win last week, and win at the final seconds for the first game. In other words, y'all scored those TDs because you needed them, desperately in fact. So be wary, just like Ravens need to up our game on catching the football. If Ravens hadn't dropped literally FIVE TD passes (that would be 8 instead of 3) Flacco would be up there with Peyton (9) , Rodgers (7), Rivers (7) (!!! wtf??) and Schaub (6) with the most TDs..

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"Game day is not the time to go and beat somebody’s confidence up," Flacco said. "The thing our guys need is confidence. If anything, they need me to sit down with them and say, ‘Man, you’ve got a ton of ability. Just go out there and let it go.’ Sunday is the time to go out there and let all of your ability take over [and] not think about a single thing because all of the preparation we’ve done during the week has taken care of that. That’s the biggest thing these guys need to know is just go and let your ability take over."
That's why we love Joe Flacco, he ain't getting all frazzled and emotional like Mr. GQ ..err Tom Brady ;)

Vick should get more credit, he's thrown for 4 AND ran in for 2 (its only been two fucking games, hot damn Chip Kelley is working his magic on Vick)

PSS.. I hate to say it, but for the third year in a row, Giants will fight Cowboys for the play-off berth, and may just get it again as a 9-7 (shit, the division might even go as bad as the NFC West three years ago and be a 7-9 team)

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
The Wiz is awesome. Great article about him in MMQB http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/12/ozzie-...timore-ravens/


Article was OK, there is so much more depth when looking at Ozzie Newsome. They guy is a fucking FOOTBALL psychic, no fuck it, he got the connection to the football Holy Ghost as if he were the Metropolitan Archbishop of the AFC. Seriously, name even ONE guy that Ozzie cut that went on to be improve, do better, or even match their performance with the Ravens. Name more than a handful of guys we've drafted or traded for that went entirely bunk or had to go? Even with Ed Reed, we ALL though it was a gasp bad mistake, and yet all the more a prophet, Ozzie scouted better than the rest of us, look at Ed going down with multiple injuries, and may not suit up for several games if any this season, AND he wanted several million dollars? That is why we let Boldin go, we LOVED Boldin, but he wanted too much money, and Ozzie knows there are plenty of faster WRs out there in the near future who will take much less money.

I think Ozzie is the best scout in NFL history, the guy almost can never go wrong, his first draft picks ever are in the Hall of Fame already and on their way, his first team ever went on shortly to win the Superbowl with possibly the best defense EVER, and the guy has won as many play-off games as anybody else in the league. Now with Harbaugh and Flacco, both are the first QB/coach to win a play-off game consecutively for their first five seasons, in fact Ravens are the ONLY team over the past six years to win a play-off game every year (not the Patriots, not the Steelers, not the Colts/Broncos, not the Giants, not the Saints, not the Packers, that is right, Joe Flacco's Ravens haterz ;) )..

We say, "In Ozzie we trust" because this guy will go down like Al Davis as one of the most intuitive minds in the history of the NFL.

Bytor Peltor 09.20.2013 11:49 AM

Texans vs. Ravens

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.20.2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Vick should get more credit, he's thrown for 4 AND ran in for 2 (its only been two fucking games, hot damn Chip Kelley is working his magic on Vick)

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Ouch. TWO interceptions in the first half and a fumble? Vick why?? Interestingly enough, considering the Eagles essentially shut out Colts to field goals (interception TD returns aside) it wasn't as bad a loss for Phillie as it seems, but considering how despicably ugly and repulsive the sports fans in Phillie are, I imagine they don't quite feel the same way ;)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.20.2013 01:29 PM

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What I liked about that article is it really demonstrates how big time Ravens have become (and also with the massive coverage of this game how big the Texans are becoming ;) ). I mean, Baltimore fans really don't see our games with Texans as a rivalry, even though we've eliminated y'all from the play-offs and had a lot of recent games (sorry, sending the Cinderellas home each year is sort of Baltimore's thing, last year we sent the Colts packing, four years ago it was the Dolphins), so y'all probably most DEFINITELY see it as a rivalry, and I'd imagine have a bit of a chip on the shoulder aching to beat us. Ravens? Our beef has always been with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, those are the devils that always have sent us packing until finally last season when we sent both of them. Of course, in 2009 Ravens first got the national spotlight when we annihilated Patriots 33-16 and sent them home unexpectedly when they were favored to win the Superbowl that year. Manning has sent us home TWICE already in his career, and it stung every fucking time!

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Baltimore has its problems like any other city; mock it at your own risk lest you seem like a hypocrite. Of course, on gameday the city does change because it gets filled with purple camo-clad fans from Essex who had Ravens silverware in their wedding registries. The fanbase leads the league in purchases of tacky crap.

HAHAHA.. It soooooo fucking true, massive irrational merchandising yo!

So I'm glad we can be Texans rival, and maybe this is the year y'all beat us and remind us that it is in fact a legitimate rivarly.

Rob Instigator 09.20.2013 01:53 PM

A true rivalry cannot happen unless the teams have a fairly equal win/loss record. The Texans have beaten the Ravens like, once? shit.

I miss the old days of the AFC where Houston was somehow stuck in a division with Cincinnatti, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh, because there were great rivalries, especially the Oilers/Bengals rivalry. Jerry Glanville hated Sam Wyche, and vice versa. I do not miss how that basically screwed the Oilers into playing playoffs in horrible winter weather however.


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