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Rob Instigator 10.03.2012 07:59 AM

Re: The Master, is their relationshiop a father/son relationship? I did not think the characters were related.

Re: Hour of The Wolf, I watched 30 mins of it and got bored. Will need to rewatch.

!@#$%! 10.03.2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Re: Hour of The Wolf, I watched 30 mins of it and got bored. Will need to rewatch.


i love bergman, but i did too. returned it to netflix unwatched.

!@#$%! 10.03.2012 12:40 PM

i honestly fell asleep so im not making it up or issuing critical judgments... i just fell the fuck asleep!

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Originally Posted by Murmer99
Watch it again, you fucks!


okay, okay.... maybe on a sunday morning or something, after a double coffee... good point about halloween. will make effort.

Rob Instigator 10.03.2012 01:38 PM

I will definitely go back to it. I've loved several Bergman flicks.

What happeend is that nothing in the first 30 minutes made me care a goddamn about either of the characters. when that happens I tune out.

HenryHill51 10.03.2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Re: The Master, is their relationshiop a father/son relationship? I did not think the characters were related.

Re: Hour of The Wolf, I watched 30 mins of it and got bored. Will need to rewatch.





I feel it absolutely is... not a literal father-son but figural one.

evollove 10.04.2012 08:25 AM

Bergman's pace may be slow sometimes, but it is deliberate, like a metronome set to 80 or so.

Trust him. He's a master. He will reward your patience.

And that opening with Liv . . . How can you look at that face and not care what happens? (Or has happened, rather.)

HOUR is a great film, and funnily enough, not nearly his best.

demonrail666 10.04.2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Has anyone been to see Holy Motors? Hoping to see it on Saturday. It could be an interesting one that's for sure.


I don't have particularly high expectations but I'm intrigued enough to want to see it, if only because I think the poster's pretty cool.

evollove 10.05.2012 07:38 AM

--Because I was raised in a religion that doesn't really have a devil, ROSEMARY'S BABY never scared me. I love quite a lot of Polanski's stuff, but this one always left me cold (though I really like all the actors). It's so implausible from my perspective. I've had to comfort Catholic girlfriends who went nuts at the end, however.

The devil--who wouldn't exist without religion--simply doesn't scare me. He ain't real.

Which is why the scariest movie for me is probably HENRY: PORTRAIT. There are Henry's out there. First time I saw it, I was scared to leave the house after dark.

Rob Instigator 10.05.2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove


And that opening with Liv . . . How can you look at that face and not care what happens? (Or has happened, rather.)

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I have always had what seems like a mild case of asperger's or something, and cannot read emotions or thoughts in faces very well at all. I misconstrue facial expressions unless they are very very broad.

soooo, I felt nothing. could have given a fuck really. just how it is.

will watch it again this weekend though, for I love other Bergman lots.

Rob Instigator 10.05.2012 08:05 AM

Henry is too plausible for me to enjoy as entertainment.

I like old crazy spoooky flicks, Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, original Nosferatu as well as Herzong's Nosferatu.

evollove 10.05.2012 09:17 AM

Oh, don't get me wrong. Henry is not fun at all. I don't anticipate watching it ever again. I'm just saying as far as horror films go, I find it extremly effective.

Diesel 10.05.2012 12:28 PM

Benny's Video. The slaughtering of a pig in the first scene is pretty hard watching...

Rob Instigator 10.05.2012 12:58 PM

The rosemary's baby is a great film!
the scary part is that it is all true, everything in it happenes every day. satan may not be real, but satanists are, and not the anton la vey dyonisian satan wanna-be's. I am talking real, sick, twisted Satan worshippers of all stripes who believe this shit is real. they kill, rape, and torture for their fucking bullshit beliefs.

Fo shizeee

keep poppin pimples 10.05.2012 02:53 PM

i like most fulci. i found lizard in a woman's skin too stupid by fulci standards even, although the soundtrack is worth seeing the movie for. am especially a fan of the city of the living dead. always was a fan of house by the cemetery as a teenager but am worried to watch it again in fear i won't like it anymore, the beyond i don't particularly like. gonna watch don't torture a duckling again sometime, liked it but it's been a long time. his barbarian movie 'conquest' is the dullest thing ever

i haven't seen rosemary's baby but i have the soundtrack LP and it is quite cool indeed, i like it but could potentially get more into it after seeing the picture

Genteel Death 10.06.2012 05:46 AM

I'll drop this on this thread as it may be of interest to you movie buffs. It's the full transcript of Armando Iannucci's Bafta lecture this year.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ure-transcript

h8kurdt 10.06.2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by halfeatencake
asskiss, watch martyrs and audition


*shudder* there's a film I wont be watching again in a hurry. Grim.

demonrail666 10.06.2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
I'll drop this on this thread as it may be of interest to you movie buffs. It's the full transcript of Armando Iannucci's Bafta lecture this year.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ure-transcript


I absolutely (to the point of passionately) agree with AI's position but he's pissing in the wind.

demonrail666 10.06.2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
his barbarian movie 'conquest' is the dullest thing ever


I agree with a lot of the rest of your post but I'm possibly the only person alive who really really likes Conquest. It has it's boring bits (like every Fulci movie) but, I dunno, I just love it.

Severian 10.06.2012 05:54 PM

Are we talking scary/disturbing films here?

Then I will just say this: Anti-Christ, with Willam Dafoe.

I mean, if you're into having your psyche raped and violated completely.
For me, never... NEVER again. Once was so much more than enough.

evollove 10.06.2012 06:12 PM

I think we've moved from scary to another level.

So I'll mention that I've been tempted to watch PHILOSOPHY OF A KNIFE, but I am old enough to understand that one cannot unsee something once it has been seen. I think the descriptions I've read are enough.

HenryHill51 10.06.2012 06:13 PM

Some interesting Halloween choices out there:

Inside (Bustillo and Maury)
In the Mouth of Madness (Carpenter)
Pulse (Kurosawa)
Demons (Bava)
Trick R Treat (Daughtery)
House of the Devil (West)
The Changeling (Medak)

keep poppin pimples 10.06.2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I agree with a lot of the rest of your post but I'm possibly the only person alive who really really likes Conquest. It has it's boring bits (like every Fulci movie) but, I dunno, I just love it.



i will probably get around to seeing a second time eventually, i've gotten a little bit into sword and sandal pictures more recently so i might end up liking it now, although i remember struggling to make it to the end before

to.w 10.07.2012 07:19 AM

I watched Tim Burton's Dark Shadows, liked it, but not Burton's best.

demonrail666 10.07.2012 01:45 PM

 


Election

I never know what to make of this movie. I like it but not as much as I want to.

 


Leaving Las Vegas

I never really liked this when it first came out and this is only the second time I've watched it. Can't understand how I was so unimpressed the first time around. Brilliant film.

Torn Curtain 10.08.2012 04:37 PM

 

7/10

Savage Clone 10.08.2012 04:38 PM

Re-watching Seijun Suzuki's "Branded To Kill."

Damn, I love this movie.

!@#$%! 10.08.2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostchase
 


Jim Jarmusch has never made a film haven't absolutely adored, he probably never will.


that's cuz you've probably never watched the insufferable "permanent vacation." ha ha, okay, maybe you have.

still, i just watched THE LIMITS OF CONTROL thanks you your post (so thanks for it). FUCKING BRILLIANT. i loved it. it's like a thing between EL TOPO and melville's LE SAMOURAI. I notice it's got a lot of bad reviews on IMDB but those people are FUCKING DOLTS> damn, i'm doing the ALL CAPS thing a lot today. don't know why. every day is different. christopher doyle's cinematography is something out of this fucking planet. anyway, i also saw this strange lovely thing this past weekend:

 


SUMMER HOURS.

i love how it seems to go nowhere and in the end you realize it's gone everywhere. fucking brilliant, and beautiful. a delicious movie.

demonrail666 10.10.2012 04:52 PM

 


Ocean's Twelve

I liked the first remake a lot but this is terrible. Although getting Julia Roberts to play a character pretending to be Julia Roberts was a fairly neat idea.

Torn Curtain 10.10.2012 04:56 PM

 

6.5/10

evollove 10.10.2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that's cuz you've probably never watched the insufferable "permanent vacation." ha ha, okay, maybe you have.


Geez. I think you, me and Jim are the only people who have ever seen that. I'm sure he wishes he never made it.


IF A TREE FALLS, a documentary about the "eco-terrorist" group Earth Liberation Front.

Highly recommended.

demonrail666 10.11.2012 05:26 PM

 


The Royal Tenenbaums

This left me cold. Maybe I just didn't get it.

demonrail666 10.12.2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Murmer99
Blood and Black Lace - Quite similar regarding my feelings towards this one. A stylish/colorful film directed by Mario Bava which may have a few moments here and there that are interesting, but ultimately it leaves me for much of its duration bored and not very intrigued by what's going on. Again, I really did like the music in this and the opening credits scene evokes a very hypnotizing mood. Decent film overall I suppose. I'd be interested in reading what anyone here thinks of it, if they've seen it.


I find it quite boring, to be honest. It has all the classic Bava ingredients but doesn't really hold together as a complete movie - which is itself arguably a key ingredient in a lot of Bava's Gialli. So while he's become largely synonymous with that genre and has mainly built his reputation on them, it's the stuff in other genres that I tend to be more into: stuff like Black Sunday, Lisa and the Devil, Danger: Diabolik, Rabid Dogs and the Doctor Goldfoot movies. I suppose that's about as perverse as someone saying they're a big Woody Allen fan but tend not to like his comedies.

demonrail666 10.13.2012 06:22 PM

 


Oceans 13

It took me less than 30 minutes to realise I didn't have a clue what was going on, but strangely watchable.

keep poppin pimples 10.14.2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
 

6.5/10


i watched it now too, pretty good movie, sad though

demonrail666 10.14.2012 06:21 AM

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Just finished watching this and it's really my favorite thing I've seen by Anderson. All four of the main roles delivered and it tells an excellent little crime story. I love how it's neither too long or too short, it feels just right. I say this because I often find that his films sort of drag. Not sure why I neglected this for so long but thanks to demonrail for encouraging me to check this out. The father/son thing he seems to play around with in his work is most powerful in Hard Eight I think.


YES!!!!! Brilliant film! I've a feeling PTA himself isn't that big a fan, that it wasn't quite the film he wanted to make, but it's close to perfect for me. Philip Baker Hall and John Reilly are fantastic together. And I love Gwyneth Paltrow in it, too - although I'm becoming a bigger fan of her the more films I see her in (being largely put off in the beginning by stuff like Shakespeare in Love). I also just love the whole dead-end Vegas feel to it all. I've still yet to see The Master (not released here until next month) and would probably count Magnolia as his great artistic achievement but Hard Eight is the one I could watch over and over again just for the sheer pleasure of it. A mini masterpiece that, if I were to redo my all-time top ten, I'd be hard pressed not to include it. And while we all know how great an actor Philip Seymour Hoffman is, John Reilly is maybe my favourite working acting at the moment. He has a face I could watch forever. Either way, both of them are making a mockery of all those claims that 'they don't make 'em like that anymore'. Both of them would've been incredible in any era.

What a face

 

_slavo_ 10.14.2012 12:29 PM

 


Buddha Mountain
a very emotional Chinese movie
7/10

evollove 10.14.2012 05:58 PM

Does everyone know Anderson wanted HARD EIGHT to be a three hour epic?

Studio execs intervened. It's a chamber piece after all.

Anderson was pissed, but he had no clout, so the little gem is what we got. The execs were right, I suspect.

What a fucking ego on that guy.

demonrail666 10.14.2012 06:09 PM

Yeah, I heard it was a massive compromise. Proof that you might not get what you want but you might just get what you need. God bless the suits.

!@#$%! 10.17.2012 07:42 AM

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okay, so, funny story, i tried watching this again, this time we weren't sleepy, but about an hour into the movie and with 20-some minutes to go i went "oh, im tired," and turned off the thing and went to sleep. yes i will finish watching it another time i'm sure, i am a curious person after all, and there were scenes and moments that were great here ( like that weird-ass boy in the beach) but in general the movie doesn't do it for me the way that i couldn't turn off "scenes from a marriage," for example (this movie reminded me of that tv series with the weird interaction of the couple).

h8kurdt 10.17.2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Murmer99
Oh well. It's one of my favorites of all time. I guess Bergman has that effect on viewers. Some people find Cries and Whispers a hypnotizing masterpiece and others think it's the most exhausting and torturous thing to sit through. Hour of the Wolf to me is his most dreamlike film. He creates an unsettling mood and does a fine job of placing the hallucinatory scenes so that they almost correlate with reality. I find something agitating about Bergman's use of the camera during the dinner scene... where it's constantly jumping around from face to face and Max Von Sydow's brilliant performance adds to that tension.

So last night I watched:

 


Beautiful colorful film by the master himself. The scenes at the park are just gorgeous. I loved the sounds of leaves moving around in the wind and how there's a long period in that scene without any dialogue. The set designs that Antonioni constructed for the photo shoots were astonishing. The mimed tennis game at the end is perhaps the most powerful ending I've seen and nearly made me want to cry... despite not even knowing what the scene meant.


Bloody girl. It's a good film but not that good.


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