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Genteel Death 07.13.2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Political discourse that happens in the arts is just a bunch of people agreeing with each other that such and such a thing is bad.

Yes. I'm afraid I do agree with you on this. And all that nice talk and no action rarely materialises into actual positive changes.

!@#$%! 07.13.2020 11:33 AM

so how are the delusional in this thread contorting themselves to justify or deny or excuse the dotard’s attacks against dr. fauci? are you gonna post us links to some conspiracy website? or make some bullshit claim and try to justify it because you went to some “great universities”? lololololol

don’t worry answering, i’m not reading your nonsense except when others quote you. i just wanted to make a point that (in my opinion) you’re complete assholes.

EVOLghost 07.13.2020 02:19 PM

what went wrong in these people's lives that makes them hate so much?

The Soup Nazi 07.13.2020 03:49 PM

This is so fucking absurd - if you don't like the guy, FIRE HIM you wimpy-ass little orange Dotard bitch. He works for you! Weren't you famous for firing people?

h8kurdt 07.13.2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
This is so fucking absurd - if you don't like the guy, FIRE HIM you wimpy-ass little orange Dotard bitch. He works for you! Weren't you famous for firing people?


Don't think he can. Least it's not down to him.

The Soup Nazi 07.13.2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Don't think he can. Least it's not down to him.


Why, because it's gonna look bad? Everything he does looks like (and, more importantly, is) shit anyway! If you're referring to some legal provision that shields Fauci from being fired by the motherfucking president of the United States (something I'm not aware of), Trump doesn't care and has been doing illegal fucked-up things daily for years - he'd have Barr do it somehow.

Bytor Peltor 07.13.2020 05:19 PM

REP Jim Jordan

“38 different people, 49 different times unmasked Michael Flynn between Election Day November 2016 and Inauguration Day January 2017. In the two month short time period, 49 separate times they unmasked Michael Flynn’s name even though they ALREADY KNEW there was NO bases for the investigation to begin with!

And how do we know they knew there was no bases, there was no proper predicate, because when they testified they told us that! The testimony of Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rice and Samantha Powers all said the same thing, we never saw any evidence of coordination, collusion or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia......but they investigated it anyway!”

Genteel Death 07.13.2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
 

You baffle me. You seem like an intelligent guy and then resort to posting things like these. By any means have your own opinions, but what the fuck is this meant to say about ANYTHING?

Diesel 07.14.2020 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
 


If I knew this thread was a shit posting goldmine I might have joined in a bit more

Diesel 07.14.2020 05:23 AM

Here Bytor, ye and schunk (the world's first intelligent idiot) can use this as more hard evidence as to why Trump is a twat because of Obama being big bad man, spiel:

 

Bytor Peltor 07.14.2020 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
As much as I abhor the current activities of the republican party and am mind boggled why anyone would vote for them unless you think millionaires should get tax cuts regardless of the cost to social cohesion


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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
You baffle me. You seem like an intelligent guy and then resort to posting things like these. By any means have your own opinions, but what the fuck is this meant to say about ANYTHING?


My response was to T&B. I find it odd that someone living in another country would abhor the Republican Party from so far away. So much so that their mind is boggled by tax cuts. You see, for your average Republican, taxes aren’t that big of a factor. Hell, taxes didn’t even make that list!

Sooo, where exactly did the list get it wrong?

GUNS = record guns sales in 2020*
ABORTION = speaks for itself (nothing new)
BABY HARVESTING = newer, but same feelings as abortion
PRIVATE HEALTHCARE = Trump dismantled universal healthcare*
CLOSED USA BORDERS = build that wall*
STAND FOR NATIONAL ANTHEM = Republicans won’t budge on this
KEEP ELECTORAL COLLEGE = Democrats cried for change after Trump won

The above 7 are the pillars to the Republican party!
* = Trump campaign promises.

I don’t know anything about replacing the national anthem or revoking our flag, but several Democratic states say it’s okay to protest in large groups, just don’t gather in large groups to BBQ on the 4th of July and don’t think about going to church!!!


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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Just when I thought you couldn't come across as any more of a knuckle-dragging idiot.


Last but not least, because he surly isn’t the first, h8kurdt resorts to name calling.

h8kurdt 07.14.2020 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor




Last but not least, because he surly isn’t the first, h8kurdt resorts to name calling.


Because you post shitty right wing attempts at memes without taking a second to think "huh, is this backed up by any semblance of reality?". No matter how many times the facts get shown to be the total opposite you'll still post absolute nonsense.

With that all I can do is call you out for what you are. I've said it before but I'd get more sense out of my 6 year old nephew.

!@#$%! 07.14.2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
You seem like an intelligent guy

you truly are a charitable soul :D

h8kurdt 07.14.2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you truly are a charitable soul :D


Oh, you bitch!:D

Toilet & Bowels 07.14.2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
My response was to T&B. I find it odd that someone living in another country would abhor the Republican Party from so far away. So much so that their mind is boggled by tax cuts. You see, for your average Republican, taxes aren’t that big of a factor. Hell, taxes didn’t even make that list!

Sooo, where exactly did the list get it wrong?

GUNS = record guns sales in 2020*
ABORTION = speaks for itself (nothing new)
BABY HARVESTING = newer, but same feelings as abortion
PRIVATE HEALTHCARE = Trump dismantled universal healthcare*
CLOSED USA BORDERS = build that wall*
STAND FOR NATIONAL ANTHEM = Republicans won’t budge on this
KEEP ELECTORAL COLLEGE = Democrats cried for change after Trump won

The above 7 are the pillars to the Republican party!
* = Trump campaign promises.

I don’t know anything about replacing the national anthem or revoking our flag, but several Democratic states say it’s okay to protest in large groups, just don’t gather in large groups to BBQ on the 4th of July and don’t think about going to church!!!




Last but not least, because he surly isn’t the first, h8kurdt resorts to name calling.


My partner is american and my son is half american... so the states are closer to me than you might have thought.
Also that list of check boxes is obviously just made up to annoy people on both sides of the red/blue divide and has little to do with actual government policy.

Diesel 07.14.2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Kindly show me where I ever claimed that Obama is a Muslim.


 

Bytor Peltor 07.15.2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
My partner is american and my son is half american... so the states are closer to me than you might have thought.
Also that list of check boxes is obviously just made up to annoy people on both sides of the red/blue divide and has little to do with actual government policy.


DING DING DING = we have a winner!

T&B, thank you for explaining your situation, your insight serves you well!!!


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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
 


For the free minded freethinkers who believe I’m knuckle-dragging, let’s take a look at the blue checks:

NO GUNS
Here's where the 2020 Democrats stand on gun control......ABC News (Feb 2020)

“In her presidential plan, Warren echoed Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., in pledging to act on gun control within her first 100 days through executive action. Harris, too, has since ended her presidential bid.”

We Surveyed the 2020 Democrats on Gun Control. Here Are the New Dividing Lines.

“All 19 candidates support an assault weapons ban. The biggest disagreement: whether people who already own those weapons should be required to sell them to the government, or simply given the option to do so. There is also some support for a federal gun registry, an idea that many Democrats used to dismiss exasperatedly as gun-lobby scaremongering.“


NO POLICE, ELIMINATE MILITARY
US Democrats introduce sweeping legislation to reform police......BBC June 2020

“The call to disband the police in Minneapolis, while largely symbolic at this point, could indicate that sweeping changes are very real possibility - with or without federal guidance.

This could be the beginning of series of local experiments in policing reform that take very different forms in different parts of the US.“

These Top Democrats Go Further Than Biden on Diverting Police Funds



ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION

Democrats Abandon the Constitution...... claim the Electoral College, Senate and judiciary are illegitimate......WSJ (October 2018)

“Yet the attacks go beyond ideology. Detractors of Justice Kavanaugh and President Trump are denouncing the Constitution itself and the core elements of America’s governmental structure:”

DEMOCRATS VOTED TO REPEAL FIRST AMENDMENT

Progressive Democrats want the U.S. Constitution to go......Mercury News (September 2019)

“They’ve been after the Second Amendment for years. They wish to eliminate the Electoral College. In California, the First Amendment does not apply to anyone who disagrees with their leftist views.

Separation of church and state? Cities and municipalities are trying to ban Chick-Fil-A because the owners dare to support organizations that reflect their Christian values. So much for freedom of religion.”


REMOVE & REPLACE US FLAG
Don’t know much about this, doubt it’s a true concern!

INVOKE NEW NATIONAL ANTHEM
Majority doesn’t want the national anthem to be changed......YouGov (July 2020)

Some Americans call for replacement of ‘The Star-Spangled Banner’ with new national anthem......ABC 27 (June 2020)

***not a real concern of mine!

REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO GOD
‘So Help Me God’ No More: Democrats Give House Traditions a Makeover......WSJ (May 2019)

“I think God belongs in religious institutions: in temple, in church, in cathedral, in mosque — but not in Congress,” said Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee”

Democrat’s Under Fire For Removing ‘GOD’ From Party Platform......WashingtonPost (September 2012)


ELIMINATE ALL FOSSIL FUELS
Democrats struggling to face fact that their plans would all but end fossil fuels......Washington Examiner (May 2019)


ABOLISH PRIVATE HEALTHCARE
Medicare for All Would Abolish Private Insurance. ‘There’s No Precedent in American History.’......New York Times (March 2019)

“At the heart of the “Medicare for all” proposals championed by Senator Bernie Sanders and many Democrats is a revolutionary idea: Abolish private health insurance.”

Medicare for All Instead of Private Health Insurance? Question Vexes 2020 Democrats......WSJ (July 2019)

“But in the second set of Democratic debates, on Tuesday and Wednesday, front-runners backing Medicare for All will likely have to defend their pledges to take private health insurance away in the process.


PROMOTE ABORTIONS OF BABIES
Fact-check: Do Democrats support abortion up until (and after) birth?......Statesman (February 2020)

“ Republican lawmakers questioned the bill's sponsor on the scope of the proposal, asking whether the measure would allow a woman who is dilating to get a abortion.

"My bill would allow that," said Democratic lawmaker Kathy Tran. "Yes."

On Late-Term Abortion, 2020 Democrats Are to the Left Even of Obama in 2008......NationalReview (July 2019)


“Do you believe a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy up until the moment of birth?” Martha MacCallum asked Bernie Sanders at a Fox News town hall. “I think that that happens very, very rarely,” Sanders replied, before concluding: “The decision over abortion belongs to a woman and her physician, not the federal government, not the state government.


SELLING OF BABY PARTS & ORGANS
Planned Parenthood Testimony On Selling Baby Parts Unsealed, New Videos Released

ABOLISH ELECTORAL COLLEGE
Senate Democrats introduce a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College......VOX (April 2019)

Poll: Democrats want to abolish Electoral College, Republicans want to keep it......The Hill (March 2019)

h8kurdt 07.15.2020 11:52 AM

Funny thing is it'd be great if a lot off those did happen.

Fossil fuels ending? Give it to me
Allow free choice for women to have abortions? Why wouldn't I?
No guns? Aww, someone upset they can't have an assault rifle/penis extension?
Abolish private care? God forbid people get looked after. Although you know you can have both, right? Of course you don't.
Remove all references to god? Plz

You haven't shown anything to persuade me that you're not a total idiot.

Genteel Death 07.15.2020 05:08 PM

That Robert Schunk person joined this forum and tried, reluctantly, to engage in music discussion ar first. Then, for as long as I can remember, stayed in this thread arguing his skewed opinions on politics. I don't want to say he's mentally ill because I don't know this person, but surely if you post your opinions on this forum you must know that conversation is going to be thin on the ground and you are wasting your time?

GeneticKiss 07.15.2020 10:13 PM

If we're talking in memes now, here's one for the MAGA crowd:



 



(replace "Holy Ghost" with "GOP" and "God Plutonium" with "Donald")


Straight male white corporate oppression has no future. You're going to have to learn to share the fruits of modern civilization (healthcare, housing, good wages, and just plain respect overall) with everyone. Remember that? Sharing? Like you were supposed to have learned in kindergarten?

Here's another meme...the GOP thinking about the world without them:



 


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