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LifeDistortion 09.09.2020 12:51 PM

So what do you call it when a President allows 194,500 Americans die on purpose?

Screaming Skull 09.09.2020 12:56 PM

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So what do you call it when a President allows 194,500 Americans die on purpose?


Yup. All Trump. You got us there. Great point. I’ll go vote for Sleepy Joe now. Thanks for opening my eyes!

The Soup Nazi 09.09.2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
So what do you call it when a President allows 194,500 Americans die on purpose?


Genocide.

h8kurdt 09.09.2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
oh goddamn

now watch our local maga chuds contort themselves into fecal pretzels to justify or deny this one, or simply try to deflect/distract with some utter gibberish about some irrelevant bullshit that only makes sense to the stupid and addled. disgusting!

but please don’t visibly quote them if you see them. my eyes can’t take much more of their spectacular monstrosity.


Not sure there's anything they can say to defend him. Just when you think the bar can't get any lower he successfully does it. You'd almost call it a talent.

The Soup Nazi 09.09.2020 06:57 PM

Unfortunate that this was disclosed now instead of being an "October surprise", though. (Woodward himself most likely didn't want it to be seen as such, hence the timing.) I know the Access Hollywood tape didn't do jack shit, but still - we could use all we can get.

Screaming Skull 09.09.2020 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Unfortunate that this was disclosed now instead of being an "October surprise", though. (Woodward himself most likely didn't want it to be seen as such, hence the timing.)


Or, if you truly believe this to be [yet another] “bombshell” rather than a president trying to curb mass panic, then perhaps Woodward should have revealed this “truth” the second he knew it in effort to save lives, no? Instead he’s just another political hack who will be forgotten after the next transparently manufactured “bombshell” hits [sometime tomorrow, if not sooner].

!@#$%! 09.09.2020 07:57 PM

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The Soup Nazi 09.09.2020 09:06 PM

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this message is hidden because cacahead is on your ignore list


Caca Skull, indeed...

 

Savage Clone 09.09.2020 10:17 PM

Yeah, Woodward is a real obscure flash in the pan of journalism all right....


Severe facepalm

The Soup Nazi 09.09.2020 11:54 PM

Yeah, better dead than panicking. Better drinking Lysol and bleach than panicking. Better assembling at Trump rallies without wearing masks and without social distancing than panicking. Better believing that it's all a hoax than panicking. But hey, AOC? Biden? Meryl Streep? PANIC!!!

Here's what a commander-in-chief with the full power of the federal government at his disposal (that's not Bob Woodward, in case you missed that part, you Ari Fleischer-echoing piece-of-shit imbecile) should have done, among several other sensible things: act right after you received the crucial briefing. Talk to your people (don't you love tweeting so much?). Tell them this is serious. Tell them this is not the flu. Tell them we'll all get through this if starting now we modify our daily life in concrete ways: wearing a mask, social distancing, washing our hands more thoroughly and more often. It may not be easy, your routine will be affected, but these are simple measures. We will begin testing and contact-tracing on a massive scale. We are the United States and we have the unparalleled wealth to acquire any weapons needed to fight this pandemic that we may not yet have in every corner of our country. There is much about the virus that we still don't know, but many of the world's leading experts in infectious diseases are right here, in this land, and we'll work tirelessly with them. In addition, knowledge will be shared daily with and by our partners in the international medical community. We are with you. Your president is with you.

Columbia University researchers (gasp! science! the horror!) built a model that depicted the transmission of the virus throughout the United States using epidemiological modeling to gauge transmission rates from March 15 to May 3. The study was published on May 21, when the official number of Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. of A. was just below 100,000. It concluded that if the country had started social distancing just A WEEK earlier than it did, 36,000 lives would have been saved. If the States had locked down two weeks earlier than it did, it could have prevented 84% of deaths and 82% of cases. This effectively makes Donald Trump a mass murderer by narcissistic negligence at best.

Now fuck off already. Enough of your horseshit on this board.

 

Screaming Skull 09.10.2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
I know the Access Hollywood tape didn't do jack shit, but still - we could use all we can get.


As Master Yoda would say, “Never been spoken, truer words have.”

Face it, Joe Biden will not be elected the next president of the United States. I know it, you know it, and 90% of this board knows it.

There will be disappointment, another flash of rioting, lawsuits, but the country will eventually move forward under 4 more years of President Trump.

The desperation on display from the left, the media, Hollywood, the corporate elites is very telling. The panic is real.

Joe Biden is simply unelectable. You’d be wise to start admitting it to yourself.

!@#$%! 09.10.2020 01:14 PM

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(and it’s not worth your time to change this setting)

h8kurdt 09.10.2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
As Master Yoda would say, “Never been spoken, truer words have.”

Face it, Joe Biden will not be elected the next president of the United States. I know it, you know it, and 90% of this board knows it.

There will be disappointment, another flash of rioting, lawsuits, but the country will eventually move forward under 4 more years of President Trump.

The desperation on display from the left, the media, Hollywood, the corporate elites is very telling. The panic is real.

Joe Biden is simply unelectable. You’d be wise to start admitting it to yourself.


Not sure what Trump has done to make himself electable either, but hey.

!@#$%! 09.10.2020 01:32 PM

eeeeeeew. ewwww... why show the fecal specimen? close the door!

gross, man. gross.

!@#$%! 09.10.2020 01:35 PM

h8kurdt be like

“hey guys, look what i found on the interwebs:
 

i’m gonna talk to it!”

:D

h8kurdt 09.10.2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
eeeeeeew. ewwww... why show the fecal specimen? close the door!

gross, man. gross.


It's 2 girls 1 cup. Everyone watches it and is grossed out but damn if they can't turn away.

The Soup Nazi 09.10.2020 07:05 PM

Nobody here is saying the Trump shitshow is over. I think it's absolutely possible that he'll get reelected in spite of the mountains on top of mountains of horror he's amassed, especially considering the national popular vote doesn't decide dick. The fact that dipshit here is basically saying that winning beyond right or wrong is everything says, well, everything about him, not us.

Savage Clone 09.10.2020 10:44 PM

The electoral college is a racist anachronism and needs to go. I’m sorry nobody lives in your bum fuck state, North Dakota and Wyoming, but you get two senators just like everybody else and the entire thing was basically engineered to keep slave states full of slaves. The fact that it has proven itself to run against the will of the people more in the past 30 years then in the past 200 years is proof that it is time for it to go. It really only serves red states and Goes against the true will of the population. And if it didn’t benefit Republicans the Republicans would be the first against it. Their attitude about the supreme court now that it is coming around is proof positive of that. This is the last gasp of a dying group of people. They can’t die soon enough.

Antagon 09.10.2020 11:02 PM

^ And beyond that, the argument that the electoral college is some sort of bastion for individual voices in underrepresented states is completely moot. It pretty much being a winner-take-all-system completely erases the importance of individual votes. In any democratically governed country that doesn't have such a system, voters that did not put their cross next to the most popular candidate/party in a specific region still get to have some influence on the nationwide results. Saying "Hey, you live in Wyoming - isn't it great that you get to have x amount of senators representing you too? Oh, you're not in line with the majority of voters in your state? Guess your vote means jack then, haha." is pretty damn cynical if you ask me.

I like the idea that my individual decision - whether it may align with the majority or the minority of voters in my region - still factors into the bigger picture. The electoral college is the antithesis of individual agency.

Bytor Peltor 09.11.2020 05:43 AM

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Trump says he deliberately played down threat of pandemic in recorded interview with Bob Woodward

In Woodward’s new book “Rage,” Trump says he knew the coronavirus was “deadly” and worse than the flu


The first case of coronavirus was reported in the U.S. on January 21, 2020. A traveler who had visited China had tested positive on arriving in Washington state.

January 31, 2020, Trump issued an executive order blocking entry to the U.S. from anyone who has been in China in the last 14 days......the order came into effect on February 2. (Super Bowl Sunday)

February 1, 2020 Joe Biden tweeted, 'We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.'

February 1, 2020 NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio tweet “From what we know now, it takes substantial contact with someone who already has coronavirus to contract it. You don’t get it from a surface or very temporary contact.”

February 2, 2020 New York Governor Andrew Cuomo:”There is no reason to panic. There is no reason to have an inordinate amount of fear about this situation.“

February 7, 2020 Trump does his interview with Bob Woodward. "It goes through air, Bob," Trump told Woodward in February. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed."

February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco's Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns: "That’s what we’re trying to do today is to say everything is fine here," Pelosi said. "Come because precautions have been taken. The city is on top of the situation." "But that shouldn’t be carried over to Chinatown in San Francisco," she said. "I hope that it’s not that. But all I can say is, 'I’m here.' We feel safe and sound, so many of us coming here."

February 29, 2020 Dr. Fauci said that at that time and under the circumstances pertaining to that date, Americans didn't need to change their behavior patterns.

March 2, 2020 New York Governor Andrew Cuomo: ”We have the best healthcare system in the world here. And excuse our arrogance as New Yorkers, I speak for the Mayor also on this one, we think we have the best healthcare system on the planet right here in New York. So, when you're saying what happened in other countries vs. what happened here, we don't even think it's going to be as bad as it was in other countries. We are fully coordinated, we are fully mobilized, this is all about mobilization of a public health system. Getting the testing done, getting the information out and then having the healthcare resources to treat people who are going to need help. Again, that is going to be primarily senior citizens, people who are debilitated.”

March 9, 2020 Joe Biden Campaign Event in Detroit (no mask)

March 21, 2020 White House Correspondent Anders Hagstrom reports:
“Members of Congress and the Trump administration were receiving the reports even as high-level members of both the Republican and Democratic parties were downplaying the disease.”

March 30, 2020 President Trump “I want to keep the country calm. I don't want panic in the country. I could cause panic much better than even you." — Responding to reporter's suggestion that he offered false assurances to Americans.“

July 2020 World Health Organization declares COVID 19 airborne
” Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur through direct, indirect, or close contact with infected people through infected secretions such as saliva and respiratory secretions or their respiratory droplets, which are expelled when an infected person coughs, sneezes, talks or sings.”

September 9, 2020 Sleepy Joe: "He waved a white flag. He walked away. He didn't do a damn thing," Biden said. "Think about it. Think about what he did not do -- it's almost criminal."
......notice how reporters NEVER ASK what Joe would have done differently!

September 9, 2020 Fauci says Trump did not 'distort' impact of the pandemic
"I didn't see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him and what he ultimately came out publicly and said," Fauci, the country's top infectious diseases expert and head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said.

"He really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him," Fauci said.


September 10, 2020 TRUMP tweet
“ Bob Woodward had my quotes for many months. If he thought they were so bad or dangerous, why didn’t he immediately report them in an effort to save lives? Didn’t he have an obligation to do so? No, because he knew they were good and proper answers. Calm, no panic!”

September 10, 2020 Bob Woodward defends keeping revelations about Trump and coronavirus quiet until book release

“The biggest problem I had, which is always a problem with Trump, is I didn’t know if it was true," Woodward told The Post.

“Woodward said that it was not until May that he confirmed Trump's statements were based on reliable information and that at that point the virus was already widespread.”

"If I had done the story at that time about what he knew in February, that’s not telling us anything we didn’t know,”he told AP.


Sooo, what did the Free Minded Freethinkers here at SYG want President Trump to do back in February? Why do you get so caught up in the media hype?? All of your high level Democrats were receiving the same intelligence briefings (January/February) as our President......not one of them then were claiming they could handle the situation better!

THE DEMOCRATS HAD NO PLAN, THEY OFFERED NO PLAN!!!

Sleepy Joe claiming President Trump did this so the stock market wouldn’t crash is NONSENSE!!!

ZERO health officials were claiming airborne back in February, the World Health Organization didn’t declare it so until July 2020

YES - President Trump could have handled it better, things could have been done differently, but ZERO Democrats had the solution.

......it’s going to be a great weekend!!!


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