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Hah! Yeah probably, but I still hold out hope for DOOM and Adré 3k myself. |
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Yeah, I read that. They make some good points. As I listen to the album I find that there are some decent moments, especially the song with that Malcolm Mclaren sample (forget the title... Feel no ways?) but that overall it really is just a massive testament to how limited Drake is as a rapper, singer, lyricist and even a pop culture figure. I like the fact that it got a 6.8 -- historically, that's pretty much the lowest score an album can get from Pitchfork and still hope to make the top 50 of the year (as Beck's Sea Change did in 2002, after getting that exact same rating) -- and I'm REALLY glad they chose to take a second to talk about Kanye and Kendrick, and how the music those two artists have made has "worked" in a way that Drake's, undeniably, has not. I was going to lose my shit if Views got a higher rating than Pablo, or even untitled. unmastered, because it would just mean that music's primary barometer is broken.... which it may well be, but still ... NOBODY other than Drake's teeny bopper super fans is going to claim that he's "better" at anything than Kanye and Kendrick, and if that started to happen, I'd have to remove myself from the conversation entirely. Oh, also, if it got a higher rating than Lemonade, I was going to be super offended, since Views is, essentially, the anti-Lemonade: a men's rights album with no social or political compass whatsoever that opts for humble-bragging over true honesty and contains no truly heart-rending moments of clarity or perspective. So, justice is served. |
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This is what I was saying a few pages ago. I know he's getting old, and probably cannot be expected to keep being a presence in hip-hop for long, but as much as I like (most of) Magna Carta Holy Grail, I'd rather he not leave us with that album. I'd rather he go out with a bang, and release something relevant and larger than life and epic and fun, one last time. I think I even sketched out some ideas for production and guest appearances last time I mentioned this. Jay's the kind of artist who actually could benefit from "disappearing up his own asshole" a bit and talking about his feelings for once. It's kinda the only land left to concur for him: sincerity. |
Yeah and he could pull it off very well if he wanted to, "Song Cry" is one of the strongest songs on The Blueprint and in his discography in general.
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Jay Z has been irrelevant for years now. Nothing he does will change that.
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I saw an Eazy E real muthaphukkin gz on YouTube has 68 million views.. 68000000!!!!!! For what was originally an underground album
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^ That's amazing.
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So Gaga is gonna do a Prince tribute at the BBMAs now.. yikes.
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When that posthumous album came out twenty years ago we were sitting in Acc Integras bumping it full tilt on some pioneers never in 68 million years would we have thought tens of millions of people would eventually be doing the same |
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Good to see that classic dope as fuck song getting some much overdue credit. |
My bad its Tha Muthaphukkin Real that i am talking about from straight of the muthaphukkin streetz
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RIP Afeni Shakur, mother of Tupac, passed away today at age of 69. :(
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When I was sick as a little kid
To keep me happy there's no limit to the things you did And all my childhood memories Are full of all the sweet things you did for me And even though I act craaazy I gotta thank the Lord that you made me There are no words that can express how I feel YOU NEVER KEPT A SECRET, ALWAYS STAYED REAL And I appreciate, how you raised me And all the extra love that you gave me |
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Definitely. Mad respect for Ms. Shakur. RIP. :( |
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Yeah. I heard about/watched/listened to it. Not sure what I actually think at the moment. I've been sick of Radiohead's gloominess for the better part of 20 years. If they really wanted to shake things up, they'd make music that, for once, was not about socio-cultural, economic, political and personal anxiety and panic. It's a good song, but no part of me was dying to hear a Radiohead song about neo-McCarthyism. In other words, I think they've pretty well covered all the different types of anxiety and dread that I have any interest in re- experiencing aurally. At least with There There, Myxomatosis, etc. there was a nice crunchy groove to take my mind off the incessant claustrophobia ad doomism of the lyrics. As "varied" and "innovative" as the band has been, one thing they've never even attempted is uplifting music. And Jesus, that depressing shit gets old after 2˝ decades. |
Not that Aphex Twin and Kanye don't revel in plenty of anxious the near, but RDJ's done so much in so many different styles and formats that if the panicky glitch shit isn't working for you, you can throw on some of his ambient material, or his more emotionless cascading labyrinthine jams, a la Syro, and Kanye always makes room for sex references and jokes a plenty to deflate the musical tension a bit.
Radiohead, despite all their purported genius, doesn't seem to actually know how to not be devastatingly grim, all the fucking time. It's exhausting. |
I actually don't disagree.
I mean, both In Rainbows and King Of Limbs ended up in my year end Top 10 lists, but at the same time I feel like for the past decade plus, Radiohead have suffered the fate of sounding like Radiohead. Like, I love the band. But nothing they've done after Amnesiac has really felt all that different. I mean there were moments, sure. But as albums it's not like the transitions from The Bends to OK Computer to Kid A/Amnesiac where every album was like OMG what will they do next? Y'know? They've gotten into a groove of "here's a new Radiohead album" and you hear it and you're like "oh yeah. That's what it is. A new Radiohead album. I still like that band." |
The new song is just nice at best for me. I've heard it 3-4 times. Meh.
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So Jay is really working on a response album to Lemonade:
http://www.complex.com/music/2016/05...yonce-lemonade |
Jay Z will title it "You want Lemonade? I give you Golden Showers'
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whether this is real drama or a fabricated marketing move, they both win. Drama like this would shift more units than if they had just made a whole album together y'know?
Either way, remember when I said that Jay is best when he's got a concept to push him to write about SOMETHING? Like on Am Gangster? I mean, he wrote that shit as a character - and it still was the best thing he'd done since The Blueprint. |
I just don;t give a shit about anything a 50 year old multi-millionaire wishes to rap about.
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how old is Scarface? |
I don't give a shit what 'Face raps about anymore either....
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he has a "net worth" of $500,000.... far far far lower than Jay Z or P Diddy or Kanyeeee
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I'll judge the album when it drops.. if it's good then it's good. We'll see.
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haha whatever - I was giving you a hard time. I don't care who has how much or who's dating who or whatever. Good albums are good and bad ones are bad. |
Joe Budden calls VIEWS mediocre, says Drake sounds uninspired, misses the old Drake: https://www.instagram.com/p/BE_Lob1u7Nk/
Can't help but agree. |
well that answers the question that was on everyones' minds... WHAT DOES JOE BUDDEN THINK OF THE NEW DRAKE ALBUM? :D
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I never thought of radiohead as gloomy, i feel its a stereotype |
I also disagree with saying radiohead all sounds the same. I hear a world of difference between King of Limbs and In Rainbows.
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Indeed i kind of thought of King of Limbs as being an uplifting record
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All the Radiohead songs I like best, the ones I go back to now and then, are the ones that feel fresh and are pushed by a kind of dizzy momentum. I'm talking about Airbag, Karma Police, kid a, idioteque, I Might Be Wrong, There There, Myomatosis, Separator... I NEVER sit there and think, "You know what I'd love to hear right now? Knives fucking out and pyramid song and Codex, because I really want to feel like slitting my goddamn wrists." It probably doesn't help that I've been listening to Radiohead songs and thinking about relationships since The Bends came out. Probably doesn't help either that I am kind of a morose person in general, and I tend toward depression sometimes. But seriously, I can't listen to ANY of their albums all the way through. When I was younger there was almost a kind of youthful energy that came with feeling melancholy, but now I'm just not fucking interested. It's sad, because I've been a fan forever, but no band is more relentlessly depressing than Radiohead. Even their "happier" songs are filled with unsettling imagery and extremely dark themes. I think a lot of it is Thom Yorke's fault. As a lyricist, he's like a slightly more dynamic Trent Reznor. It's all pigs and knives and bad acid trips. The band itself is done a disservice by this, because musically they're just about the most solidly talented 5-piece band on the planet, but they stick to this really depressing lyrical and thematic shit, and it puts them in a box. When I do listen to Knives Out, I listen to the Flaming Lips version. Live is too bleak to sit around listening to bleak ass music all the time. This is one of the main reasons I spend so much time with hip-hop and vocalless electronic music. |
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