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Severian 09.26.2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
The Jackal.. and a few pointless minutes of Alpha Dog which seemed like a rich suburban white kids version of Belly


Hah. Isn't Emile Hirsch in that one? He tends to bring a decidedly "rich, suburban white kid" vibe to just about everything he does.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.26.2015 06:53 PM

Bro.. timberlakes character cried before they killed that kid and kept saying "youre my boy youre my boy"

I just wanted to gank all they wallets

dead_battery 09.27.2015 08:52 AM

le weekend is the best film ever all yall are insane

!@#$%! 09.27.2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
yeah a film ive tried to like but never been able to. clever but not intelligent. Spot on. Although I increasingly feel like that about Godard generally.


same here. he's good at bamboozling the kids though. And i still love alphaville.

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
le weekend is the best film ever all yall are insane


the cortázar story that inspired it ("la autopista del sur") is 10,000 times better, and it's actual art and not a tedious rant. and yes, i've long been over the impression it first made on me, but it's still a nice short story.

i'm starting to see godard more as an egghead buńuel. buńuel's political critiques (starting with l'age d'or in 1930) were much more poignant because they stayed within the dreamspace of film. godard managed that at times (e.g. alphaville, in spite of its clunky have man vs machine argument) but other times i think he was too enamored of his own "ideas" to be an artist.

so le weekend just gives you a fucking lecture. seriously, i don't want to watch a film that consists of people reading books at me like i'm functionally illiterate. i can read on my own without the interpretative dancers.

Severian 09.27.2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Bro.. timberlakes character cried before they killed that kid and kept saying "youre my boy youre my boy"

I just wanted to gank all they wallets


Ha ha. I kinda want to watch this shit now.

Timberlake's generally kind of a vag, but he is capable of transcending his image with the occasional bit of self-mockery (his Sean Parker was essentially a lazy, opportunistic "entrepreneur" version of.... Justin Timberlake; and in Llewyn Davis he took full comedic advantage of his own former pampered, preppy self-important brat image) ... So I can forgive him for quite a bit.

But Emile Hirsch... that little shit thinks he is just Joe Character Actor. Into The Wild would have been much more heartbreaking if I wasn't ready to kill the kid myself by the end. And he made my stomach turn in MILK (one of my favorite films of 2008) with his failed attempt to upstage or "out-character act" Sean Fucking Penn.

He needs to reel that ego in, or stick to movies like The Girl Next Door and.... this fucking abomination:

 

!@#$%! 09.27.2015 02:01 PM

Timbuktu

Sad/beautiful/sad/infuriating/sad/beautiful/infuriating/sad

Beautiful

!@#$%! 09.29.2015 08:50 AM

Genghis Blues - as documentaries go, this is pretty crappily made and a bit of a mess. The filmmakers were two recent college graduates with more balls than resources--and for that they deserve enormous praise. Still, formally, it's not such a great piece. But the subject matter and the music are soooo powerful that... wow... it blows you away. Definitely a must-watch.

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.29.2015 08:57 PM

 
 


Pacino was brilliant in this but they made the wife look like a selfish bitch

demonrail666 09.30.2015 08:14 AM

 


Smokey & the Bandit

 


Gator

Because sometimes it takes a couple of Burt Reynolds movies to get you through

Rob Instigator 09.30.2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
Just tried watching godard's "Weekend".

How fucking tedious. Listening to a video essay now explaining all the obvious tired shit I had to fast-forward through.

I hate this gutless "clever" shit. Everyone giving speeches to the camera.

Clever not intelligent btw. Just noise. Words words words. A fucking illustrated sermon. On-the-nose preaching. Pamphletary and painfully dated.


you are describing every single experience I have had with Godard films....

Rob Instigator 09.30.2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
Genghis Blues - as documentaries go, this is pretty crappily made and a bit of a mess. The filmmakers were two recent college graduates with more balls than resources--and for that they deserve enormous praise. Still, formally, it's not such a great piece. But the subject matter and the music are soooo powerful that... wow... it blows you away. Definitely a must-watch.


 


Like some home movies, but quite a cool film!

evollove 09.30.2015 12:22 PM

I've seen almost every Godard film, barring some very hard-to-find things and some television stuff. Also, anything made in the past seven or so years because I gave up on him.

This is a confession, not a brag. There is exactly one which I sort of like (Masculine/Feminine). Some I "appreciate." Most I have forgotten entirely.

Has anyone bothered with his post-60s output? Did Numéro Deux draw your attention by being billed as a sequel to Breathless? (It isn't.) Anyone get conned into his King Lear? (Nothing to do with the play.) Or has anyone seen Soigne ta droite, which I'm told is a comedy? (It isn't).

If you're frustrated by Godard in his prime, you'll wish cinema had never been invented once he stopped giving a fuck.

I see someone took the time to review a lot of his more obscure stuff on IMDB. These reviews read better than films watch. Highly recommended, but don't let them inspire you to actually track down any of the films.

Severian 09.30.2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 
 


Pacino was brilliant in this but they made the wife look like a selfish bitch


This is one of Russell Crowe's finest moments. What an incredible film. Again, this should have won Best Picture (I know I say that a lot, but that's because they fuck it up so much); it was so much more powerful and less pretentious than American Beauty. The fact that Crowe didn't win is probably the only reason he won for Gladiator.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.30.2015 01:52 PM

I actually thought Crowe wasn't that great, he jumped around emotional states too much and overplayed the "but i love my family" card.. Pacino was the highlight

demonrail666 09.30.2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
I've seen almost every Godard film, barring some very hard-to-find things and some television stuff. Also, anything made in the past seven or so years because I gave up on him.

This is a confession, not a brag. There is exactly one which I sort of like (Masculine/Feminine). Some I "appreciate." Most I have forgotten entirely.

Has anyone bothered with his post-70s output? Did Numéro Deux draw your attention by being billed as a sequel to Breathless? (It isn't.) Anyone get conned into his King Lear? (Nothing to do with the play.) Or has anyone seen Soigne ta droite, which I'm told is a comedy? (It isn't).

If you're frustrated by Godard in his prime, you'll wish cinema had never been invented once he stopped giving a fuck.

I see someone took the time to review a lot of his more obscure stuff on IMDB. These reviews read better than films watch. Highly recommended, but don't let them inspire you to actually track down any of the films.


I don't mind his 1st few films, but even with those, he always seemed like he was trying a bit too hard, a bit too keen to impress. Although if there's one film from that period that I do really like, it's Le Mepris - but even with that, the things I like most about it are probably its least Godardian. Either way, everything else I can take-or-leave, at best, and I pretty much gave up on him altogether after the 70s.

evollove 09.30.2015 04:22 PM

Okay, I take it all back. Here's a chunk of Woody Allen in Godard's KING LEAR. Hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VJP43eAnQE

!@#$%! 10.01.2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
you are describing every single experience I have had with Godard films....


normally we disagree a lot on movies but here i don't blame you

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I don't mind his 1st few films, but even with those, he always seemed like he was trying a bit too hard, a bit too keen to impress. Although if there's one film from that period that I do really like, it's Le Mepris - but even with that, the things I like most about it are probably its least Godardian. Either way, everything else I can take-or-leave, at best, and I pretty much gave up on him altogether after the 70s.


yeah le mépris i really love as well, mostly for the great cinematography and fritz lang and let's admit it, brigitte bardot. oh, and jack palance as the ugly american! even though the ending is a bit facile, right? kinda like a kid's wishful-thinking revenge.

[ETA - rereading about this i had forgotten the whole ulysses/penelope/poseidon thing which is so very well done and why i loved that movie so much from the first time i saw it. just brilliant. a masterpiece.]

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Originally Posted by evollove
Okay, I take it all back. Here's a chunk of Woody Allen in Godard's KING LEAR. Hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VJP43eAnQE


i watched the beginning and the usual godard noise-over-dialogue (it's like real life! or something...) was grating (as usual). then came the "clever" title cards and i hanged up. does woody stay after the "clever" title cards?

!@#$%! 10.01.2015 09:49 AM

anyway last night i finally watched the legendary HOOP DREAMS.

which was 3 hours long

and so before we started i said "eh, it's so long, we can watch it on installments"

but then we couldn't turn it off and ended staying up late!

it was really amazing and the time went flying by.

the criterion disc comes with the siskel/ebert reviews in the extras, which are worth a good look not just because how much they loved this movie (best of the year/best of the decade) but also because they really shook up the establishment re: documentary oscars.

Rob Instigator 10.01.2015 09:51 AM

Hoop Dreams is good stuff.

evollove 10.01.2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i watched the beginning and the usual godard noise-over-dialogue (it's like real life! or something...) was grating (as usual). then came the "clever" title cards and i hanged up. does woody stay after the "clever" title cards?



You should watch the whole thing to find out.

Kidding.

No. He pops up 3/4 of the way through, has that "scene" and leaves.

But I've been poking around some Godard stuff online, and so many have gotten a lot out of even his most esoteric work, so there is the chance that he's simply too brilliant for my little mind.

Richard Brody from New Yorker says Godard's King Lear is "the greatest film of all time," so what the fuck do I know?

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/ric...at-twenty-five

!@#$%! 10.01.2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
You should watch the whole thing to find out.

Kidding.


not kidding here, some day out of sheer masochism i just might. well not masochism but curiosity.

i ordered le weekend after being bored numb by pierrot le fou btw

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Originally Posted by evollove
But I've been poking around some Godard stuff online, and so many have gotten a lot out of even his most esoteric work, so there is the chance that he's simply too brilliant for my little mind.


or maybe he's just a preachy boring overthinker-- don't beat yourself up

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Originally Posted by evolloveRichard Brody from New Yorker says Godard's King Lear is "the greatest film of all time," so what the fuck do I know?

[URL="http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/godards-king-lear-at-twenty-five"
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/godards-king-lear-at-twenty-five[/url]

it's worse than that-- per the article, it's a SIGHT AND SOUND poll that declared it so. but i'm calling shenanigans.

well i'll have to actually watch it before i commit to this opinion. "yes, this caca actually tastes like caca." who knows...

i'd much rather watch RAN for the 50th time though....

evollove 10.01.2015 12:09 PM

Have some trailers and whatnot. These make the films actually look watchable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWhbEeGPz6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOS2CtbdNqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FRwSvHAuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KR9lKEEqug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J9TWKE_olY

dead_battery 10.01.2015 12:11 PM

king lear is great

im watching evangelion again from the beginning, which is even better.

did you fuckos know the evangelion manga just finished last year? you can get the 4 compendium volumes and the last two volumes on amazon for prob less than 40quid.

!@#$%! 10.01.2015 12:20 PM

evangelion is the one about teenage psychoanalysis via robots, yes?

demonrail666 10.01.2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
anyway last night i finally watched the legendary HOOP DREAMS.

which was 3 hours long

and so before we started i said "eh, it's so long, we can watch it on installments"

but then we couldn't turn it off and ended staying up late!

it was really amazing and the time went flying by.

the criterion disc comes with the siskel/ebert reviews in the extras, which are worth a good look not just because how much they loved this movie (best of the year/best of the decade) but also because they really shook up the establishment re: documentary oscars.


Yeah, fantastic doc. Reminds me I should watch it again.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yeah le mépris i really love as well, mostly for the great cinematography and fritz lang and let's admit it, brigitte bardot. oh, and jack palance as the ugly american! even though the ending is a bit facile, right? kinda like a kid's wishful-thinking revenge.

[ETA - rereading about this i had forgotten the whole ulysses/penelope/poseidon thing which is so very well done and why i loved that movie so much from the first time i saw it. just brilliant. a masterpiece.]


I can take or leave the Fritz Lang element, too much like Godard just name dropping. But yeah, it's his most unashamedly beautiful film, to the extent that he probably disowned it during his Maoist period.

Did you know he apparently wanted Kim Novak instead of BB? That would've been a masterstroke, not that I'm complaining about BB.

dead_battery 10.01.2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
evangelion is the one about teenage psychoanalysis via robots, yes?


it's also about fascist japans kamikaze psychology, postwar liberalism, an inverted buddhist narrative, a critique of christianity, cloning, automation, the loss of the self in post modernity and loads of psychosexual stuff.

and one of the best soundtracks ever.

get the original version with eng subs and watch the end of eva movie when it ends.

also fear the walking dead is getting pretty good atm.

!@#$%! 10.02.2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
it's also about fascist japans kamikaze psychology, postwar liberalism, an inverted buddhist narrative, a critique of christianity, cloning, automation, the loss of the self in post modernity and loads of psychosexual stuff.

and one of the best soundtracks ever.

get the original version with eng subs and watch the end of eva movie when it ends.

also fear the walking dead is getting pretty good atm.


i honestly wasn't too impressed with it. i get that it has good ideas throughout, but every episode seemed like a 10 minute recap, 10 minute actual episode, 10 minute preview of things to come, and generally was a bit childish. not bad, but ultimately for kids in a just-for-kids way. i.e. if i was 13 my mind would have been blown, but at 300 years old it's no surprise. maybe the manga is different.

my favorite was seeing the whole mythology of the thing as a sort of jungian/hessian magic theatre where he works out his depression. kinda like the second season of twin peaks where the hotel guy plays civil war with his toy soldiers, but here you get in and follow the toy battles.

dead_battery 10.02.2015 05:18 PM

i dont disagree but it all changes with the end of evangelion movie - it is so utterly different from the series its unreal. one of the best and most fucked up films of all time.

dead_battery 10.02.2015 05:19 PM

i think i have watched end of evangelion about 10 times in the past year and ive watched the nerv invasion scenes and the asuka final battle and shinji scream scenes about 400 times

dead_battery 10.02.2015 05:20 PM

i will go ahead and say that end of evangelion is for me either top film of all time or at least in the top 5.

!@#$%! 10.06.2015 10:29 AM

CARRIE (1976) - A bit of a shit movie for my taste, with terrible music and cheesy effects, but some of the performances were great-- and whatever this did for Sissy Spacek's career, I think Piper Laurie takes the cake.

demonrail666 10.06.2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
CARRIE (1976) - A bit of a shit movie for my taste, with terrible music and cheesy effects, but some of the performances were great-- and whatever this did for Sissy Spacek's career, I think Piper Laurie takes the cake.


I like it but can't disagree with any of your points. I suppose it's more important than great.

ilduclo 10.06.2015 02:40 PM

caught the Martian the other day, pretty good, a little long, but Damon is good in sci fi. nice visuals and a good story. I heard it was filmed in the Tunisian desert, which I never remember looking like that......

!@#$%! 10.06.2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I like it but can't disagree with any of your points. I suppose it's more important than great.


i watched a disc extra about the acting (various actors talk) and realized piper laurie directed herself better than depalma would.

my original post should have included a still of her, because she's just so great in it.

 


^^ you know depalma didn't want to film that little monologue but she insisted? also she insisted on calling the pink dress red as the screenplay originally stated instead of fixing it (wardrobe thought pink looked better on sissy). fucking genius lady!

!@#$%! 10.07.2015 12:26 PM

NASHVILLE (Robert Altman 1976)

finally i was able to get my hands on this and it was worth the wait. classic altman! massive ensemble cast, camera going from one place to another and lots of things going on at the same time, hilarious characters doing some great improvisation, a kind of anthropological look at 'merica, all sort of narrative threads going on, plus one full hour of musical numbers (lol). i was not crazy about the musical numbers but they count a lot in a movie about country music and they do help build up the whole scene. really great stuff even if you hate country music (i do).

schizophrenicroom 10.08.2015 10:57 PM

watched la notte tonight followed by l'eclisse

!@#$%! 10.08.2015 11:28 PM

just finished watching MOOD INDIGO. which is a strange title for a movie which is frech i called (roughly translated) "the foam of days" . sure, duke ellington is all over the sountrack and imagery but no mood indigo is in the soundtrack.

anyway. what's with this. michel gondry is a very clever boy. he has the best toys. he and wes anderson should get together some day and play. because both of them are very imaginative little boys...

but mang this time (i watched the extended version, over 2 hours) gondry went overboard with the cleverness. holy fuck it takes maybe an hour for the actual story to kick into gear, the beginning is just more visual fireworks for the sake of visual fireworks.

had i not liked gondry i probably would have smashed the TV after 30 minutes, but because he's a very clever boy and has the best toys i endured, and i don't regret it-- in the end the story is beautiful and it works but holy fuck he makes you wait for it and has to show you *every fucking toy* he plays with before the story actually begins.

if you like gondry, definitely watch it. if you like boris vian, watch it too. otherwise stay the fuck away from this. i'll recommend it though, if you have the patience to fucking wait for the child to put his toys away and get on with the story.

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
watched la notte tonight followed by l'eclisse



damn! the two in a row? i love both of those movies but that's MASSIVE endurance.

schizophrenicroom 10.09.2015 12:05 AM

i was sorta half watching the latter if only because i had seen that one before (but not la notte)

if the science of sleep bored me (and i feel like i should have loved the movie given i like gondry and love the cast but meh) will that bore me?

!@#$%! 10.09.2015 12:34 AM

dont know why you didn't like science of sleep-- was it the story? was it the special effects? i recall i liked it although the main male character was a bumbling jerk and the woman was cold etc. i think gondry maybe was unlucky with girls and that comes through ha ha (well he does say that in some commentary/extras).

if you can't stand the overreliance on trick shots, and choo-choo trains, and zizou-type picturesque shit, that sort of thing, mood indigo will bore you to tears.

but if you are willing to wait for the drama, when things begin to happen, i think the 2nd half of the movie is pretty great, sorta, and it's a good social satire also (mostly this is from boris vian, who was a late-surrealist of sorts, and a much more interesting person than gondry, def. worth a look).

i'm actually glad i saw it-- but not sure about your tastes. it has a good novel behind it though, so that should prop it up for you.

demonrail666 10.09.2015 03:27 AM

Yeah, La notte and L'eclisse in a row might be a bit much. Independenly they're great but, together, that's a whole lot of angst. Maybe stick Uncle Buck, or something, between them.


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