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noisereductions 05.11.2016 09:36 PM

seriously tho, new Aesop Rock is his best since Labor Days probably.

louder 05.12.2016 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Ha!

It's sad and annoying that this wave of new "rappers" doesn't even try to be good at rapping! I saw an interview with Lil Uzi Vert and he "freestyled" over a bunch of beats, then when a DJ Premier beat came on he was like "I'm not gonna rap over this beat. It's too old. I'm a rockstar." :rolleyes:

louder 05.12.2016 06:07 AM

So Death Grips have a new album out.. are y'all planning to give it a listen?

noisereductions 05.12.2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
So Death Grips have a new album out.. are y'all planning to give it a listen?


I tend to listen to all their albums as they drop. But I never end up sticking with them. I'm a pretty casual "fan" - more I find THEM more interesting than the music itself.

HEY, to go back to the Madlib talk for a second, I think maybe I worded things wrong. What I was trying to say was that I'd be so much more excited if he'd announce a new YNQ-related album than another hip hop collab. He hasn't dropped one since High Jazz which was part of the Medicine Show series. It's been a longtime. And as fans of Yesterdays Universe & High Jazz may know from the liner notes, there are a lot of unreleased YNQ albums out there. Heck, the Jahari Massama Unit album w/ Keriem Riggins was announced wayyyy back and still hasn't dropped.

For the record, MY first exposure to Lib was via Blue Note's compilation, The New Groove. :)

Severian 05.12.2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
It's sad and annoying that this wave of new "rappers" doesn't even try to be good at rapping! I saw an interview with Lil Uzi Vert and he "freestyled" over a bunch of beats, then when a DJ Premier beat came on he was like "I'm not gonna rap over this beat. It's too old. I'm a rockstar." :rolleyes:


Lil Uzi Vert. That pretty much says it all right there. What the hell kind of moniker is that? "I'm a rockstar?" Who fucking says that? He'll be gone in a flash.

Severian 05.12.2016 08:22 PM

Chance 3, Tomorrow Bitches! :)

Severian 05.12.2016 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I tend to listen to all their albums as they drop. But I never end up sticking with them. I'm a pretty casual "fan" - more I find THEM more interesting than the music itself.

HEY, to go back to the Madlib talk for a second, I think maybe I worded things wrong. What I was trying to say was that I'd be so much more excited if he'd announce a new YNQ-related album than another hip hop collab. He hasn't dropped one since High Jazz which was part of the Medicine Show series. It's been a longtime. And as fans of Yesterdays Universe & High Jazz may know from the liner notes, there are a lot of unreleased YNQ albums out there. Heck, the Jahari Massama Unit album w/ Keriem Riggins was announced wayyyy back and still hasn't dropped.

For the record, MY first exposure to Lib was via Blue Note's compilation, The New Groove. :)


I liked Government Plates and the Money Store best. Some of their music kind of sickens me after repeated listens, but I can't say I'm not sort of into that. Pharmakon does the same thing to me, as do a number of noise and drone artists whose work I love.

But I agree that Death Grips are often more interesting conceptually than they are musically. But I hear this new one features guest appearances from Tera Melos, so I'm gonna have to hear it at some point.

And they have been responsible for some seriously badass tide shifts in the periphery of pop music. For example, skme of the best moments on Yeezus were clearly influenced by them. Same with Run the Jewels and the last Shabazz Palaces album.

As for Madlib... I am pretty much down with anything that has anything to do with him. I'd love to hear more YNQ, more Strong Arm Steady, etc. He's just a master craftsman. He's almost on a level with Dilla at this point.... but, of course, not quite. ;)

noisereductions 05.12.2016 10:19 PM

I agree w/ you on Death Grips regarding Yeezus, RTJ, etc.

Personally - PERSONALLY - I'm a bigger Madlib fan than Dilla. No disrespect. Just I feel like I follow Madlib much closer, pretty much for the past nearly 20 years.

louder 05.13.2016 12:58 AM

Chance 3 is officially titled "Coloring Book"..

Speaking of our friend Lil Boat, look who's here:

01 All We Got (ft. Kanye West & Chicago Children's Choir)
02 No Problem (ft. Lil Wayne & 2 Chainz)
03 Summer Friends (ft. Jeremih & Francis & The Lights)
04 D.R.A.M. Sings Special
05 Blessings
06 Same Drugs
07 Mixtape (ft. Young Thug & Lil Yachty)
08 Angels (ft. Saba)
09 Juke Jam (ft. Justin Bieber & Towkio)
10 All Night (ft. Knox Fortune)
11 How Great (ft. Jay Electronica & My cousin Nicole)
12 Smoke Break (ft. Future)
13 Finish Line/Drown (ft. T-Pain, Kirk Franklin, Eryn Allen Kane & Noname)
14 Blessings

louder 05.13.2016 01:38 AM

So there are 2 different songs titled "Blessings".. what the?

louder 05.13.2016 04:39 AM

On second listen, this tape is actually pretty awesome.

louder 05.13.2016 04:45 AM

Favorite hip hop project so far this year.

Severian 05.13.2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
On second listen, this tape is actually pretty awesome.


Why so surprised?

Severian 05.13.2016 10:46 AM

Dammit, louder you scooped me you bastard! ;)

I was gonna break this shit. Coloring Book... cool title. Very Chance the Rapper. I still want to call it Chance 3. I'm all kinds of hooked on that name, and have been ever since "Ultra Light Beam." But whatevs.

I haven't had a chance to hear it yet because I've been running around like a madman all morning, and was up half the night writing a shit story. But I'm looking forward to it.

Severian 05.13.2016 10:47 AM

Also really looking forward to hearing Kaytradana's Anderson Paak-featuring debut album, 99%.

Rob Instigator 05.13.2016 11:04 AM

I have been listening to what is ironically termed Trap-Soul

Jeremih - Oui https://youtu.be/VtcP0PFifpE

Bryson Tiller - Don't https://youtu.be/d7cVLE4SaN0 (Htown's got me feelin all throwed......)

Young Greatness - Moolah https://youtu.be/8NHerdv71w4

ha!

louder 05.13.2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Why so surprised?

My first listen experience was pretty cloudy. But that was my fault. Just don't expect anything like Acid Rap when you approach this tape and you'll be fine! ;)

louder 05.13.2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Also really looking forward to hearing Kaytradana's Anderson Paak-featuring debut album, 99%.

Heard it earlier this week. Good EDM, soul and funk beats and cool features. Some nice summer vibes.

louder 05.13.2016 03:12 PM

This new Chance is very soulful and Gospel-y.. but it's also mashed with autotune and trap. So it's a mix of old and new. Cool as fuck.

louder 05.13.2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I have been listening to what is ironically termed Trap-Soul

Jeremih - Oui https://youtu.be/VtcP0PFifpE

Bryson Tiller - Don't https://youtu.be/d7cVLE4SaN0 (Htown's got me feelin all throwed......)

Young Greatness - Moolah https://youtu.be/8NHerdv71w4

ha!

Used to listen to those Jeremih and Bryson songs a lot last year.

Bytor Peltor 05.14.2016 12:24 AM

THEESatisfaction (official statement)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.14.2016 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
THEESatisfaction (official statement)

I actually enjoyed this group at sleater kinney last year

louder 05.14.2016 06:28 AM

I'm not sure if the Denzel Curry album from this year is really meh or I'm just losing interest in that type of hip hop..

Severian 05.14.2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
I'm not sure if the Denzel Curry album from thie year is really meh or I'm just losing interest in that type of hip hop..


What? He has a new album? Last one kinda sucked too. N64 was the shit though.

Severian 05.14.2016 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
This new Chance is very soulful and Gospel-y.. but it's also mashed with autotune and trap. So it's a mix of old and new. Cool as fuck.


Finally getting to it.

I've gotta say... Unfortunately....

This is the first album to firmly grab me by the fucking balls and give me a shock to the heart and soul since THE LIFE OF PABLO.

This is AWESOME.

Fucking 'Ye and Chance are the Batman and Robin of hip hop.

I like this better than untitled unmastered.

"No Problem" is the best track Lil WYne OR 2 Chainz have appeared on in for Fucking ever.

This is some exuberant, joyous, heavenly ass shit, and it's EXACTLY what I needed. This, like TLOP, is fucking heroin for the soul.

2nd best album of the year. Sorry Bey.

louder 05.14.2016 02:06 PM

I'm glad you're enjoying it so much! I do like it better than untitled unmastered as well.

louder 05.14.2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
What? He has a new album? Last one kinda sucked too. N64 was the shit though.

Yeah man.. it's bland and uninteresting. In my opinion, at least.

noisereductions 05.14.2016 04:04 PM

finally listened to Views... profoundly boring. Won't be listening again.

louder 05.14.2016 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
finally listened to Views... profoundly boring. Won't be listening again.

Ha!

louder 05.14.2016 04:29 PM

Now y'all see.. I'm really not a hater.

Severian 05.14.2016 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Now y'all see.. I'm really not a hater.


Who said you were a hater?

Of anything other than TLOP, that is ;)

Severian 05.14.2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
I'm glad you're enjoying it so much! I do like it better than untitled unmastered as well.


It's the goddamn definition of off the goddamn chain!!!

My gut reaction is to say it's better even than Acid Rap, which I believe is among the best albums (I'm not calling it a mixtape, not when it's THAT good) of the decade.

The first 4 songs are just fucking non-stop brilliance. It's like he's actually beating me over the head with awesomeness. In this, it reminds me a great deal of TLOP, which I think was an obvious source of inspiration for this. But it also has some of the most exuberant and ecstatic beats and production that have appeared on a major project since Gradu-fucking-ation.

(Really, tell me "No Problem" doesn't remind you of "The Glory" ... or at least bring it to mind..)

Not saying it's an imitation. I'm saying it's fucking BEAUTIFUL.

Part of me wishes Chance would "sell out" and get a record deal, because he's the only rapper I've ever encountered who I truly believe could be another Kanye. But he's on his own path, and he's certainly a shot-caller.

This record makes me bounce back and forth between elation and tearfulness the same way Pablo does. It's SO MUCJ better than I ever expected, and I was expecting pretty awesome shit, so that's saying a lot.

And the record covers so much ground, sonically and stylistically. It's got gospel, it's got a little trap, it's oozing soul and there are streaks of jazz and EDM and neo-soul and rock and pop and .... Blah!

This is what I think is missing in so much of today's hip hop. Positivity, fun, chaos, goofiness, variety. This is what I want to hear.

It's like Chance made the anti-VIEWS. A colorful, vibrant album about his home town, but instead of floating around inside his own brain (like Drake does in his asshole), it's like Chance is casting flood lights outward, onto the people of the city and beyond, out to rest of the world and into space and into heaven.

It's just incredible. I can't say enough about it, really.

louder 05.15.2016 03:35 AM

Great post and comparsion, Sev!

Chance AMA on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads...is_out_ask_me/

He said that the tape will be available for free everywhere in less than two weeks! Go Chance!!

louder 05.15.2016 04:17 AM

I raised an eyebrow when I saw Lil Yachty and Justin Bieber in the tracklist, but they surprisingly killed their features. With all the shit we gave Lil Yachty in the last page, I must give him props where it's due.

louder 05.15.2016 04:18 AM

And don't even get me started on that Jay Electronica verse.. one of the absolute BEST rappers in the world.

louder 05.15.2016 05:19 AM

Coloring Book is one of the most uplifting albums I've EVER heard in my entire life, up there with Exile from Main St., Songs in the Key of Life, Discovery and Graduation.. saving people from suicide type of shit. Y'know?

Whenever that Kirk Franklin song is on, I just have a BIG smile on my face.

louder 05.15.2016 05:45 AM

"Kanye's best prodigy, he ain't sign me but he proud of me"

No doubt.

louder 05.16.2016 02:34 PM

Common announced a new album!

Severian 05.16.2016 05:25 PM

That track sounds like a freestyle. At least the verse.

I just love Chanc's cadence and vocal spi. I love it when his voice cracks and it sounds like he's laughing, crying, and maybe even getting ready to scream in someone's face, all at once.

In this era of largely bullshit trend hopping scuzz rapper, Chance really stands out. He's someone I can't help but root for. And this is the best goddamn "mixtape" that's dropped in I don't know how long. I can't think of anything that surpasses it.

louder 05.17.2016 03:19 AM

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/...coloring-book/

Highest score this year, along with the new Radiohead (which I think they overrated a bit). Well deserved.


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