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musefreek 04.01.2008 07:44 AM

zimbabwe

Toilet & Bowels 04.01.2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
you can come live with me when the old man kicks the bucket.



actually, i'd love to live in new york. green cards would be a problem, but i understand the usa is full of illegal immigrants proping up the economy.

gmku 04.01.2008 09:11 AM

Outside of the United States, I could only live where there's good beer. That rules out most places except the U.K., Belgium, and Germany.

sarramkrop 04.01.2008 09:27 AM

Somehow I can picture you living in Belgium or Switzerland.

gmku 04.01.2008 09:35 AM

I can vouch for both. At least they were nice when I lived in Germany in the 80s. We used to take weekend getaways both places and loved them both. Very pretty, great food, etc.

Sonic Youth 37 04.01.2008 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
'I'm so bored with the USA' is the first thing I thought of when reading this thread title. Has that quote been mentioned? I'm sure it has.


I thought the same thing.

Go to Italy, Florence is a wonderful city.

mangajunky 04.01.2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
'I'm so bored with the USA' is the first thing I thought of when reading this thread title. Has that quote been mentioned? I'm sure it has.


here ya go

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Clash
Yankee soldier
He wanna shoot some skag
He met it in cambodia
But now he cant afford a bag

Yankee dollar talk
To the dictators of the world
In fact its giving orders
An they cant afford to miss a word

Im so bored with the u...s...a...
But what can I do?

Yankee detectives
Are always on the tv
cos killers in america
Work seven days a week

Never mind the stars and stripes
Lets print the watergate tapes
Ill salute the new wave
And I hope nobody escapes

Im so bored with the u...s...a...
But what can I do?

Move up starsky
For the c.i.a.
Suck on kojak
For the usa


!@#$%! 04.01.2008 11:34 AM

^^ ive had that song in my head since i read this thread last night

LittlePuppetBoy 04.01.2008 11:40 AM

Canada!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.01.2008 11:52 AM

 



 


 


 

mangajunky 04.01.2008 11:59 AM

Paris, Angkor Watt, Cairo, Milan, Kyoto

Toilet & Bowels 04.01.2008 12:06 PM

angkorr watt is no longer visitable, and milan is ugly and boring

mangajunky 04.01.2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
angkorr watt is no longer visitable, and milan is ugly and boring


I can't find anything about Angokorr Watt being "no longer visitable".

http://www.angkorwat.org/

http://www.tourismcambodia.com/Attra...gkor/index.asp

Milan is filled with fantastic historical locations. Hell, the Last Supper is there.

Someone on this forum said something to the effect that boring people get bored.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.01.2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangajunky
Paris, Angkor Watt, Cairo, Milan, Kyoto


did you know that in three out of the five cities mentioned you can still purchase slaves? one of them still has open air slave markets like in the 1850s! I'll let you guys guess which ones are which...

nicfit 04.01.2008 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangajunky
Milan

fuck no. the only good thing is that many bands tour there.

go to beautiful Siena or Florence if you settle for Italy.
Or fucking Venice. that would be the perfect spot to cut from the "normal world" for a while.

nicfit 04.01.2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangajunky
Milan is filled with fantastic historical locations. Hell, the Last Supper is there.


true, but it's quite an awful city to live in.

mangajunky 04.01.2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
did you know that in three out of the five cities mentioned you can still purchase slaves? one of them still has open air slave markets like in the 1850s! I'll let you guys guess which ones are which...


Now hold on just a minute - you're saying three of the following countries: France, Cambodia, Egypt, Italy, and Japan there is legalized slavery?

You must be totally wrong. There is no way that three of those countries have legalized slavery.

!@#$%! 04.01.2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittlePuppetBoy
Canada!


only in the summer. still toof fucking cold!

PE Island FTW

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.01.2008 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangajunky
Now hold on just a minute - you're saying three of the following countries: France, Cambodia, Egypt, Italy, and Japan there is legalized slavery?

You must be totally wrong. There is no way that three of those countries have legalized slavery.


legalized no, slavery yes. it has a new euphamistic name in the 21st century called human traficking. of course, intellectually, this term is synonomous with slavery, and you will find it often in text books and monographs on 19th century slave trade.

http://www.humantrafficking.org/
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/
Italy is a transit and destination country for women, children and men trafficked for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation and forced labor. Most victims are women and children from Nigeria, Romania, Moldova, Albania, and Ukraine though in smaller numbers there are also victims from Russia, Bulgaria, Latin America, North and East Africa, the Middle East, and China. Children constitute 7 to 10 percent of victims. There has been an increase in Romanian minors trafficked to Italy for sexual exploitation, an unintended consequence of a EU-mandated closure of Romanian orphanages. The number of Roma children trafficked for forced begging has also risen. Men from Poland and the P.R.C. are trafficked to Italy for forced labor, mostly in the agricultural sector.
The Government of Italy fully complies with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking. Italy has taken aggressive steps to enforce its anti-trafficking laws and to provide protection to victims. To further strengthen further its response to trafficking, Italy should take steps to ensure that Article 18 benefits are administered equally to labor trafficking victims, ensure that victims are not penalized for crimes committed as a result of being trafficked, and launch demand reduction campaigns.

Cambodia is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children trafficked for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation and forced labor. Cambodian women and children are trafficked to Thailand and Malaysia for sexual exploitation and forced labor in factories or as domestic servants, while Cambodian men are trafficked for forced labor in the agriculture, fishing, and construction sectors in these countries. Cambodian children are trafficked to Vietnam and Thailand for forced begging. Cambodia is a transit and destination country for the trafficking of Vietnamese and Chinese women and children for sexual exploitation. Sex trafficking of women and children occurs within Cambodia's borders, from rural areas to cities such as Phnom Penh, Siem Reap, and Sihanoukville.
The Government of Cambodia does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it is making significant efforts to do so. Cambodia is placed on Tier 2 Watch List for the second consecutive year because it failed to show evidence of increasing efforts to combat trafficking in persons, particularly in addressing reports of public officials' complicity in trafficking. Although senior level government officials are committed to anti-trafficking efforts, there are reports that public officials' complicity in trafficking limited the government's success in combating trafficking. The government also failed to pass a much-needed comprehensive anti-trafficking law that has been in the drafting process for the past seven years. Cambodia should pass and enact comprehensive anti-trafficking legislation and make greater efforts to prosecute and convict public officials who profit from or are involved in trafficking.

Arab Republic of Egypt [ Country-by-Country Reports ]
The Arab Republic of Egypt [map], located NE Africa and SW Asia, is bordered by the Mediterranean Sea (N), Israel and the Red Sea (E), Sudan (S), and Libya (W). Egypt's capital and largest city is Cairo. Over the last decade, Egypt has made great strides towards the achievement of child rights. The majority of its inhabitants are concentrated into about 5% of the total land area, putting a heavy burden on public services and causing massive migration to Cairo and Alexandria. Approximately 23% of the population live below the national poverty line, and despite free education, 60% of adult females and 36% of adult males are illiterate. The development of an export market for natural gas is a bright spot for future growth prospects, but does little to reduce Egypt's persistent unemployment.
Egypt is a transit country for women trafficked from Uzbekistan, Moldova, Ukraine, Russia, and other Eastern European countries to Israel for the purpose of sexual exploitation, and may be a source for children trafficked internally for commercial sexual exploitation and domestic servitude. Reports indicate that some of Cairo's estimated 1 million street children - both girls and boys - are exploited in prostitution. In addition, wealthy men from the Gulf reportedly travel to Egypt to purchase "temporary marriages" with Egyptian women, including in some cases girls who are under age 18, often apparently as a front for commercial sexual exploitation facilitated by the females' parents and marriage brokers. Some Egyptian cities may also be destinations for sex tourism. Children were also recruited from rural areas for domestic service in cities; some of these children may face conditions of involuntary servitude, such as restrictions on movement, non-payment of wages, threats, and physical or sexual abuse.


SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.01.2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
legalized no, slavery yes. it has a new euphamistic name in the 21st century called human traficking. of course, intellectually, this term is synonomous with slavery, and you will find it often in text books and monographs on 19th century slave trade.

http://www.humantrafficking.org/
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/
Italy is a transit and destination country for women, children and men trafficked for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation and forced labor. Most victims are women and children from Nigeria, Romania, Moldova, Albania, and Ukraine though in smaller numbers there are also victims from Russia, Bulgaria, Latin America, North and East Africa, the Middle East, and China. Children constitute 7 to 10 percent of victims. There has been an increase in Romanian minors trafficked to Italy for sexual exploitation, an unintended consequence of a EU-mandated closure of Romanian orphanages. The number of Roma children trafficked for forced begging has also risen. Men from Poland and the P.R.C. are trafficked to Italy for forced labor, mostly in the agricultural sector.
The Government of Italy fully complies with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking. Italy has taken aggressive steps to enforce its anti-trafficking laws and to provide protection to victims. To further strengthen further its response to trafficking, Italy should take steps to ensure that Article 18 benefits are administered equally to labor trafficking victims, ensure that victims are not penalized for crimes committed as a result of being trafficked, and launch demand reduction campaigns.

Cambodia is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children trafficked for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation and forced labor. Cambodian women and children are trafficked to Thailand and Malaysia for sexual exploitation and forced labor in factories or as domestic servants, while Cambodian men are trafficked for forced labor in the agriculture, fishing, and construction sectors in these countries. Cambodian children are trafficked to Vietnam and Thailand for forced begging. Cambodia is a transit and destination country for the trafficking of Vietnamese and Chinese women and children for sexual exploitation. Sex trafficking of women and children occurs within Cambodia's borders, from rural areas to cities such as Phnom Penh, Siem Reap, and Sihanoukville.
The Government of Cambodia does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it is making significant efforts to do so. Cambodia is placed on Tier 2 Watch List for the second consecutive year because it failed to show evidence of increasing efforts to combat trafficking in persons, particularly in addressing reports of public officials' complicity in trafficking. Although senior level government officials are committed to anti-trafficking efforts, there are reports that public officials' complicity in trafficking limited the government's success in combating trafficking. The government also failed to pass a much-needed comprehensive anti-trafficking law that has been in the drafting process for the past seven years. Cambodia should pass and enact comprehensive anti-trafficking legislation and make greater efforts to prosecute and convict public officials who profit from or are involved in trafficking.

Arab Republic of Egypt [ Country-by-Country Reports ]
The Arab Republic of Egypt [map], located NE Africa and SW Asia, is bordered by the Mediterranean Sea (N), Israel and the Red Sea (E), Sudan (S), and Libya (W). Egypt's capital and largest city is Cairo. Over the last decade, Egypt has made great strides towards the achievement of child rights. The majority of its inhabitants are concentrated into about 5% of the total land area, putting a heavy burden on public services and causing massive migration to Cairo and Alexandria. Approximately 23% of the population live below the national poverty line, and despite free education, 60% of adult females and 36% of adult males are illiterate. The development of an export market for natural gas is a bright spot for future growth prospects, but does little to reduce Egypt's persistent unemployment.
Egypt is a transit country for women trafficked from Uzbekistan, Moldova, Ukraine, Russia, and other Eastern European countries to Israel for the purpose of sexual exploitation, and may be a source for children trafficked internally for commercial sexual exploitation and domestic servitude. Reports indicate that some of Cairo's estimated 1 million street children - both girls and boys - are exploited in prostitution. In addition, wealthy men from the Gulf reportedly travel to Egypt to purchase "temporary marriages" with Egyptian women, including in some cases girls who are under age 18, often apparently as a front for commercial sexual exploitation facilitated by the females' parents and marriage brokers. Some Egyptian cities may also be destinations for sex tourism. Children were also recruited from rural areas for domestic service in cities; some of these children may face conditions of involuntary servitude, such as restrictions on movement, non-payment of wages, threats, and physical or sexual abuse.



...the world is going, and so and am I, it such a bloody mess.....
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/66086.pdf
[CIA human traficking report 2006]


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