So what's the difference between doing the unnecessary in a gay bar compared to a 'normal' one?

Edit - Scratch that. It's the 'we're allowed' thing. I appreciate that.

Hey look, I've never been on a "date"

I have, and have been so shy that I end up getting hilariously/embarrassingly drunk, then end up feeling guilty for being such a twat. Needless to say I'm not wildly fond of them at t'moment.

I didn't know people still went on dates, well people my age anyway.

Gay guys are romantic like that.

Yes we are, except, er, when we;re not. How goes it, Symbol Guy?

Tired look at the "DANCE" thread love.

It wasn't a date as such, but this story is relevant.

I had liked this girl for a while, and she liked me according to a number of different sources, so i invited her to hangout around at my house with a few other people (we hung out with eachother before so it was nothing big). so my friend brought around his big shisha pipe and some whiskey, and i had a lot of beer and started drinking really early (without having eaten anything).

my friend sets up the pipe and after a while it's just me and the girl on the room, sharing the pipe and talking (at least i THINK i was talking...); the next thing i know is the coal from the top of the pipe is on my carpet and it's fucking burning. I take another huge swig of whiskey and make a comment about how my life is not worth living anymore. anyway, the girl cleans up the carpet and i'm sitting on the floor next to her going (from what i can remember) "clean the carpet and i will love you forever", i said it about 20 times or so.

then i remember sitting back on the sofa with her and saying "i like you, you know, like i really like you... i like you... i like you". that's all i remember really. then i woke up on my bed, my friend in a pool of vomit and an ambulance on it's way...

needless to say i completely fucked things up.

Why go on dates when for an extra 30 you can get the full 'girlfriend experience' as an extra?

And skip the whole ball-and-chain thing? Who would want to do that?

Public displays of affection are nauseating. Public displays of insemination, on the other hand...

The first date I ever went on was with a girl who worked at a coffee shop I always went to, I invited her to go to a local national park, we ended up shootin shit in a tepee later on. I've been living with her for the last 2 years and it's been great.

Wow, what a great story. Seriously. That's awesome.