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Are we having that old Kurt wrote Courtney Love's song? I'm tired of that, and the whole she killed him theory.

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Originally Posted by Satan

uh guess what

when i started playing guitar i played on the top two strings with my thumb. i've obviously improved. people improve. bands change. kurt obviously influenced her to write better songs but it's nothing short of sexist to say he wrote them for her. what about celebrity skin? did kurt write all those songs from beyond the grave, huh?

violet was written by courtney love in their van on october 31 1991 outside of a club in minneapolis. she was listening to a tape of nevermind and got pissed that one of her peers wrote something so "fiercely great" so she knocked out the riff and wrote the lyrics about billy corgan and that was that. doll parts was written by courtney about kurt in 1991. before they got together ie when she was still lusting after kurt. early versions appear on an ep called "ask for it" recorded at a john peel session on 17 november 1991.

don't fuck with my hole knowledge baby boy.

word!!!!

It's pretty well-know that Courtney wrote that shit about Billy Pumpkin.

So I guess Jeremy didn't speak in class. Today.

PS... "Jeremy" was NOT written by Beth Hovercraft, even if you think it's hipper to like her than Eddie.

sayin. fucking get the fuck out of 1995 please

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

He didn't write Celebrity Skin, that record blows. I think he wrote their good record, Live Through This. :p

~Jeremy~

Also, CS does not blow. The title track, "Northern Lights," "Drowning" are great songs. You can't say an entire record blows is there are good songs on it.

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Originally Posted by Satan

sayin. fucking get the fuck out of 1995 please

hahaha. e-high-five!

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

"Drowning"

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Originally Posted by Satan

fuck! YES. I did. GAWD. I was even in a band that covered that song in high school. hahahaha. Yes.

ps, I'm pretty sure that "Dying" (DYING) is Courtney's defining vocal performance.

she sounds pretty on that song

probably because the album is so overproduced

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Consider this:

Courtney went from "writing" a song like Dicknail to a song like Violet in two years time. On Pretty On The Inside the songs are credited to Hole. The songs on Live Through this are credited to just Courtney. EVERY Courtney record after that, she had co-writers for every song. Is it a coincidence?

Consider also Nirvana jammed on the Violet riffs a year before Courtney "wrote it", Courtney claimed Old Age was always a Hole song (Even though Krist later said Kurt literally "Threw it away" to her), Listen to the lyrics to Doll Parts; That's Kurt. I'm one of those people are absolutely think Kurt wrote Live Through This.

~Jeremy~

Note that "violet" uses the exact same riff as "Garbadge Man", which was written in 1989. The lyrics for "Doll Parts" are not Kurt and neither is the song structure. The only way they're "Kurt" is if you ignore the fact that Courtney spent TONS of time with Kurt working on In Utero's lyrics (By the way, the title of that album was taken from a poem by Courtney) and was hugely influential on them. I mean, she wrote "Pennyroyal Tea"'s lyrics, but they weren't credited to her, were they? Besides, "Dicknail" is an awesome song unless you're a huge pussy who can't handle it. You're a moron and you should be shot. (kidding)

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I think he wrote their good record, Live Through This. :p

LTT is shit compared to POTI and so is Nevermind

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ps, I'm pretty sure that "Dying" (DYING) is Courtney's defining vocal performance.

You mean it was Courtney's most autotuned vocal performance

And yeah, this whole "Courtney killed Kurt even though he wrote her only good songs and therefor was instrumental in her desired rise to fame" bullshit got old a long time ago.

it is. Mostly. But I mean, "Celebrity Skin" sounds soooooo fucking good. As do the other two I mentioned. The rest is kind of meh. Compared to the others and ASKING FOR IT EP, etc. I never got Courtney's solo shit, cuz I assumed it was bad pop shit. Eric was so great.

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Originally Posted by infinitemusic

I mean, she wrote "Pennyroyal Tea"'s lyrics, but they weren't credited to her, were they?

Okay, wait, now who the fuck are YOU?? Nick Bloomfield?

oh my god, look

i've actually been wearing this shirt all day but i did go and get the book off my shelf two feet away

I can't stand CS. I hate the overproduction, the autotune, the sappiness, the campiness, the emotional dishonesty, the guns n roses influence, the fact that the bitch couldn't even pick up a guitar, and I especially can't stand the shitty lyrics.

And noise, who the hell is N Bloomfield?

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Originally Posted by infinitemusic

im listening to it now

this is not a hole record

it is sooooooo bad

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Originally Posted by Satan

oh my god, look

i've actually been wearing this shirt all day but i did go and get the book off my shelf two feet away

I worked in a bookstore when that book came out. But never bought it. Oh well. But I love the recent Kurdt book.

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Originally Posted by Satan

im listening to it now

this is not a hole record

it is sooooooo bad

The title track sounds like a Hole single to me. Though.

YOU guys keep me young.

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

I worked in a bookstore when that book came out. But never bought it. Oh well. But I love the recent Kurdt book.

the charles cross one

what the fuck is it called
cobain uncensored or some shit

i got it from the library and stole all the little shit like polaroids etc out of it and then gave them their book back

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Originally Posted by Satan

im listening to it now

this is not a hole record

it is sooooooo bad

Yeah... it's so shitty words can't even really describe it