not salvation. it is not a selfish pleasure. i can find pleanty of that around. yes I do long for eternal rest and I am not too high on my horse to admit that I am never selfish. it is in all humans to be this way. it is also in all humans to be kind. god brings out the kind in me ppl like you bring out the selfishness.

i do have other issues to adress it is true, but i would not even admit to these to myself if i had no faith. what do you think makes the difference in a person like me? you do not know me what i feel what i have lived. i have god in me and i have evil in me. without the god in me the evil would take over.


What is your sense of purpose?

Who do YOU love and why?

Why do you have morals?

Then I don't know why you think you would lose anything if you didn't "believe", especially your morality. That makes no logical sense to me.


My answers are probably the same as most. My sense of purpose is to make the most out of this life as I can. To try to make my surroundings better for myself, my neighbor, and the next generation. I love my family, friends, beautiful girlfriend, and music, because they bring happiness, security, and fun. I have morals because my parents treated me with respect and taught me empathy.

Me too. if I don't believe though I lose my life. you care about your life right? who does not. But this phsyical form is not my life it is only preparation for my real life.

you can call me selfish a liar or whatever else all you want, but you know what you are really doing? YOU....YOU are my test. YOU are my chance to stray from my father and deny christ as Peter did. YOU are the one to test mt faith. But I am stronger than YOU. By YOU questioning my beliefs you are actually doing god's will without knowledge of it. It is quite ironic really.

This is not a test of your faith. It is a test of your logic... your ability to reason.

And sorry Gail but, as the rest of you can hopefully see, it is difficult to communicate with Christians (even the ones who think they are open minded) when faced with statements like "But this phsyical form is not my life it is only preparation for my real life."

That literally is borderline insane.

I never claimed to be sane. I did not tell you to think this way. Think what you will, but have some respect for others.

Oh good. That makes me feel better. :confused:

The worst thing is that you do tho. (claim to be sane)
and that's the dangerous part.

GAIL got it right in regards to hevusa:
"...but have some respect for others"

Tell that to gay people that are trying to get married!!!

There is no respect when you lie about God. The world needs more honesty, not respect.

thread where hevusa proves (to himself) that he's a better person by calling those who don't believe as he does idiots - take 3,245

lol protochristian.

don't try to pretend what you're doing here has anything to do with being an activist for gay rights.

right now, I'm having my erect nipple licked.

feels good, man.

"DON'T LISTEN"

Yeah, that is my quote of what a Matador Records label person said in regards to the Eternal. It is so fucking funny that came from someone who is supposed to promote music in the world. Oh the irony! That is him in my avatar as well.

knox is right. You are using that topic because it is one that is big in the media. You hear alot of fighting about it. The media does not in any way represent reality.

In fact it is pretty pathetic to me that you would pick up a real cause that is very personal to ppl on here to use soley as a tool to prove your point. It tells me you really don't care about thier rights you just can't think of something else that most christians do that pisses you off. In fact it is quite insulting.

me or hevusa? I know im crazy, but I don't expect everyone else to follow my path.

Seems pretty judgmental... YES, I do care about gay rights. "Belief" plays a huge role into why many minorities have had it so bad in America.

I hate all religious sect, but I do think everyone has the right to believe in the entity of their choice. Just as long as you don't use religion to promote hate, murder, wars, or things that my help out humanity like the catholics had done/ and still do with contraceptions. The whole gay issue is boring is like beating a dead horse.