Sonic Youth Gossip - Some notes on hipster law, 2011

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost

racist.

oh, I get it. because he's black, right?

you disgust me.

racism makes the world go round.

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Originally Posted by Glice

No, you fuckwit. No. It doesn't work like that.

If you want to talk about nomenklatura, we can do; if you you want to make petty semantic points, go ahead (oh, you have. Well done). Labels exist and are meaningful; I'm saying that the label hipster is exclusively negative and phantasmic, based on some ill-defined notion of cohesion of 'other' (small 'o'). That 'other' is always reductive, based on an assumed cohesion and language community of idiocy, which may never be verified or agreed upon. It's basically 'these are some other people who are wrong [for spurious/ non-existent reasons]'. I'm not saying any notion of intellectual/ semantic cohesion of 'other' is automatically wrong - I'm saying that hipster specifically appertains in definition to idiosyncratic (but not sociolectical) anxieties of 'how other people think/ feel/ understand/ experience'. There are no hipsters, only people saying that 'someone else' is a hipster.

If I was being hysterical/ polemic I could probably say that it's structurally analogous to notions of 'other' related to racism; the problem is that different cultures appertained by 'other-isms' in that do actually exist, just not in the negative space (and this is faintly related to the epistemic status[es] of diachronic approaches to language which we (yes, we) voided nearly a century ago). Ergo, hipster is spurious notions returning to personal social anxieties, and racism remains bad for different reasons.

Though a caveat - I'm not part of a North American language community, so I might be wrong (but I severely doubt I am).

... and I'm saying I didn't mean it that way. Nomenklatura? Lolz. Someone (may have) gone to (a few years of) (community) college (and failed).

Your are fat with empty words.
Must chill. Nobody's persecuting you, so put your dukes (and that bid ol' thesaurus of yours) down.

Ha! If in doubt, speculations and accusations. Much better than reading something and going 'oh yeah, this bloke's got a point - maybe I should explain myself better'.

For what it's worth, I'm thin as a rake.

That's what YOUR MUM said.

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Originally Posted by Derek

No, your are fat.

my are fat.

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Originally Posted by Glice

That's what YOUR MUM said.

you're mum is fat.

unpossible. my son if Officially Non-White. that makes me Officially Non-Racist.

put that in yr pipe and smoke it, HITLER.

I greatly enjoy cheese pizza. Thoughts? Discussion?

Internet fighting makes me feel like a little girl.

I guess I shouldn't have used that word, but I didn't mean it as an insult, and I didn't realize it would be taken that way. It was just a speculative bullshit post I made when I should have been working on a boring Monday morning.

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield

Internet fighting makes me feel like a little girl.

that's why it's so good

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Originally Posted by knox

that's why it's so good

Apparently your girlhood was not like mine. :D

my girlhood is eternal

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

I greatly enjoy cheese pizza. Thoughts? Discussion?

pedophile.

Would you prefer candy? I have some in my nice van over there. Go take a look.