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I am sure there are countless ones that deserve it more, but that has nothing to do with a severe personal reaction to his bullshit.
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Hey, I’m only trolling your ass because you made a point for so long of claiming Kanye (and Kendrick and others) were overrated shit every time I brought them up. Toughen up, kiddo. Also, no D’Angelo isn’t rap, but he’s in the hip-hop sphere. Not only because of his history of collaboration with rappers and hip-hop producers, but also because his music has always emphasized beat and timing (and featured rappers!), with a solid element of hip-hop structure in everything he’s released. Voodoo was recorded with Questlove and Common and so on, and Black Messiah is in a similar vein to Kendrick’s TPAB in the sense that it leans heavily on analogue jazz and blues and funk music. He was also part of a big collective of artists, including rappers, producers and other singers like the Roots, Common, Erykah Badu (and by extension Andre 3k), J Dilla, and some others I forget. The collective is responsible for some of the defining rap and R&B recordings of the late ‘90s/early ‘00s. Like Frank Ocean or Erykah, he’s not hip-hop, but he’s absolutely hip-hop adjacent. Fool! |
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I’m not even that big of a Common fan all things considered, but acting like he hasn’t been a positive force in hip-hop is absurd. Talking about the guy who single-handedly send Ice Cube to the children’s movie circuit. He may be a corny wanker on TV (I don’t know — I don’t watch commercials because... uh... I’m too hardcore for that? And also they have nothing to do with the music of the artist who might appear in them), but he’s released some absolute classics. I also kinda like him. I’ve seen him in a few movies and he’s a fairly likeable dude, it seems. Young Thug just changed his name to SEX or some stupid shit, which isn’t a publicity stunt at all, and certainly doesn’t smack of the desperation of impending obsolescence. ;) |
Common was obsolete by 2000
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Seriously, I don’t even like him *that* much, but he hadn’t even dropped his biggest album by 2000. You just, like, SAY things and they don’t need to mean anything or be true, because you said them, and that’s just how it is. It’s one thing to be like, “I don’t like Common, and I think he’s a suckassbitch,” but to say he’s obsolete, or that he was done by 2000 — that’s just utter bullshit. I mean, the guy won an Oscar two years ago, soooo... And released a string of well-received albums in the 00s. And his last album was actually really good. He’s not on my listed favorite rappers, and never has been, but don’t act like the guy hasn’t had a career. I don’t even know why I bother. When there’s real talent, you don’t pay attention or.hou dismiss. I don’t even give much of a shit about Common, but you’re just making incorrect statements. Kendrick drops four classic albums that speak to a generation and change the game, and you’re like “Kendrick sucks.” Kanye West has the most solid discography in modern music, irrespective of genre, and even the people who hate him aren’t traditionally stupid enough to assert that he hasn’t changed music itself several times over, and that he isn’t one of the most innovative artists of his era. And you’re like.... “Fuck Kanye he sucks.” Like, every chance you get. Frank Ocean shatters glass ceilings on a weekly basis. “Fuck Frank Ocean” Vince Staples is only a couple releases behind Kendrick and Kanye when it comes to consistency and, and you probably have yet to hear Summertime ‘06. When you do hear it, you’ll be like “Fuck it I want Future and Migos ‘cuz South!” Oh and “Fuck Jay-Z” too. And Common. Oh, and D’Angelo! Fuck that guy too. But boy that Rae Sremmund!! |
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Love it. I must spread my legs around before giving it to Sev again |
Been listening to a lot of 90's shit lately. Biggie, OutKast..
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Been blasting some OutKast lately too. I don’t think an Andre solo album is ever going to happen though. And they’re never going to reunite on record. Goddamn shame. I drool over “Gasoline Dreams” |
What was that Andre 3000 album from years ago that was like a soundtrack to a cartoon? I never heard it.
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I don’t even think I know what you’re talking about... but he never released an album-album, unless I’ve been consistently and grossly misinformed over several years’ time. |
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Weird. Didn’t know about that, but again... not an album-album. Kinda pisses me off that he has time for shit like that but NOT for the goddamn album people have been waiting for for ... oh my god, like 14 years. I am old. We are old. |
Does Kendrick remind y'all of Chuck D in a way?
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We need a proper documentary about Biggie's creative process. His artistry. How he mastered his technique. What his influences were.
Almost everything that can be found online is tied to his "beef" with 2Pac. Yawn. |
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Yeah. Sure. Sounds good. I’d watch that. |
So nobody said anything about the fact that I kind of like “Icon” by fuckin’ Jaiden Smith. Not sure what to make of that. Just being ignored? Maybe nobody’s reading (likely)?
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Sev.. check out "Watch Me" by Jaden Smith. It's a direct bite of Black Skinhead. And "Batman" is a Jumpman/Facts remake. Haha.
I don't know what Kanye song "Icon" reminds me of.. maybe All Day? Somehow a spoiled hipster kid doing Kanye covers is more listenable than most of the "new school" mainstream bullshit out there these days. I do read all of your posts by the way. |
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I know! I felt a “Kanyeness” about it too. I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. I was thinking maybe something from Cruel Summer? But “Batman” or “Black Bruce Wayne” or whatever is definitely a “FACTS” lite. I don’t want to like the little fuckwad, because he objectively sucks as a person (remember when he was doing that whole “Zen life coach” thing and giving Instagram advice or whatever? Fuck that fucking ass), but he’s got some producers or something that are able to ape just enough hummable shit from other artists to make some of it kind of astonishingly good.... for, y’know... Will Smith’s kid. I’m sick of motivational rappers. DJ Khalid can eat death and fuck a skull. |
Two Kanye and Kendrick songs leaked yesterday. I was able to listen to one (a Kendrick song with a Kanye feature called “Don’t Jump), and the other (a Kanye song with a Kendrick feature called... I don’t remember) was removed from SoundCloud before I could hear it.
Sounded fucking good though. I don’t know if it’s new or from the “No More Parties in LA” session, but damn. There’s been a lot of buzz about Kanye being back in Wyoming with a posse. Lots of buzz. People think a new album is coming but I’m not so optimistic. I think he’ll stick to his every 3 years schedule (ugh), which means 2019. Goddammit. |
Also “Southside Serenade” just leaked online. Sounds pretty good. Again, no way to tell if it’s a discarded SHMG/TLOP track or if it’s something he’s been working on recently, but fans think they know.
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I do not see it. It’s a simple, surface-level comparison. Yeah, both artists have a tendency to take on social and political issues, but that’s about it. Nothing similar about their styles or how they approach music. Kendrick is more like 2pac with a bit of Common injected into him, and some of the musical adventurousness of Kanye. Sure, if you need a rapper to blame his socio-political conscience on, Chuck D is an easy and obvious choice, but it’s a trivial comparison. Totally differen kinds of artists. |
Speaking of Kanye he was at one of the March of Lives.
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This made me SO happy! I covered a local march as press, but wasn’t able to actively participate. It was a good assignment though, and I saw this on my FB feed just after finishing up all the photo and copy work. Awesome. Re: Kim — Yes, I too am not a fan, but she is magfuckingnificent. Beeautiful with or without makeup, irrespective of hair color. Goddamn gorgeous. Vapid, sure, but not completely empty. Though I will say I’ve dated plenty of girls who were crazy hot and crazy-crazy, with just enough of a spark to keep me hanging on to the hope that they’ll become less vacuous human beings. It’s never actually worked out. Still... I am profoundly attracted to her. There’s a sweetness in her eyes. I prefer the “basic” photos to the near-nude ones. Sweatpants > sparkly dresses. Yum. |
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JPEGMafia is *good* How and why have we not been talking about this shit? JPEGMafia - “Thug Tears” |
Needledrop guy gave the album 8/10.
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NO. Kendrick is his own thang. Only person I could compare Chuck D to would be Guru |
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We disagree heatedly on all the important shit, even if there are board strokes similarities. I’ve communicated with him over email about his absolute wrongness regarding the quality of Burial’s “Come Down to Us” and Frank Ocean’s “Futura Free.” Stupid fat, popular, rich me minus student loans and failed attempt at graduate school. :( |
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I said we communicated, didn’t I? Yeah, he replied to my question of When are you going to re-evaluate Burial’s Rival Dealer and realize that it’s the man’s career-best work, and that the song you think is the worst — ‘Come Down to Us’ — is in fact the most haunting and beautiful thing he’a Ever done?” I had also written about how his opinions tend to loosely mirror my own except in instances of objective wrongness like the aforementioned, and I named a few others (Yeezus, “Futura Free”). He said something like “Sadly my opinion hasn’t changed. Unfortunately I’ve found his music less and less interesting with each release.” Didn’t say much else. Short reply, but whatever. I’m not bragging about the interaction, it’s just funny that you think we have similar opinions when that’s only the case on the surface. Dig into an album and he’s almost always “wrong” about what the best and worst songs are, even if he’s “right” about the album being good or bad or meh. |
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You actually performed a search and copied and pasted like eight comments (and made up a comment) for... what purpose was it? To illustrate some vacillating on my part? Cool. Let that sink in. Anyway, I still half-hate him, but — broad stokes — he tends to like pretty good music. Lots of punk, hardcore, post-punk, decent hip-hop (sometimes he likes great hip-hop), but he never gets it right. Even when I agree with him I get pissed off because we disagree on things I think are really important (Futura Free and Come Down to Us, MBDTF and Yeezus, Damn, etc.) Hell, I just called him a dumb fat me. I don’t take your meaning, I guess, is what I’m saying. |
My meaning? I had five minutes to kill and felt like fucking around. IT'S FUNNY! I can't even explain why.
Chill homie and appreciate my handiwork. I'm curious why he gets under your skin so much, though. Lots of people review stuff and I have absolutely no emotional reaction to any of it. Why does this guy bug you so much? Also, I'm curious if you feel you get fucked with in a cruel way online a lot? I was really just gently teasing about your seeming obsession with the guy, and you didn't even recognize that. You took it as a much more hostile gesture than I intended. Have too many past experiences put you in perpetual defensive mode? |
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Yikes. Uh, I knew you were just teasing and I didn’t mean to give the impression I was (what’s that awful term people say? Oh yeah, “Butthurt.” Eww, I hate that) and my intention was simply to clap back lightly over something that’s obviously just a bit of friendly ribbing. Maybe I’ve just been ultra stressed lately and that came out in my reply. Actually, I’ve definitelt been ultra stressed lately, so maybe that’s what it was. I have actually had some unpleasant online experiences, but they were more of the sinister/stalky variety. Like, being emailed a picture of my girlfriend’s mother’s house by someone I don’t know. So, yeah, kinda. That’s why I keep things pretty impersonal. I’ll tell anecdotes and shit, and talk about my job, but never where I work or exact personal details. Just seen too much crazy in my way-more-25-but-less-than-45 years. Anyway, no hard feelings bub. I just thought we were sparring a bit. I was trying to be funny, but my inner aggro must have seeped out. |
Regarding your question about Fantano and why he bugs me, I think the answer comes down to this:
I wanted to be a music writer — a writer who wrote about music, not a reviewer because that’s only a full time job for like five people anymore — since I was very wee indeed. I went to college on a writing scholarship and tried to generate interest in entertainment writing and zines among my friends and fellow students, but nobody was into doing it. Spent a few years at it before deciding I needed to be more practical with my education. I basically started my bachelor’s degree again in a science, graduated, went to grad school, damn near killed myself, crashed, burned, dropped out, got a few joyless accounting jobs that sucked up about 6 years of my life, finally said fuck that and tried my hand at journalism again, spent a good year freelancing before landing an abusive pair of part-time gigs that barely paid the bills, and then turned that eventually into a job that is actually pretty solid with a decent salary. In short, I’ve spent most of my life working to be in a place where I would even be in a position to write about music professionally. So, to recap: Compromise after compromise... roughly 25 years of dreamin, trying, failing, quitting, starting over, struggling, etc. Meanwhile there’s some fat bald version of me who didn’t bother with education or taking the “official” approach, and simply picked up a phone, pressed record and decided he was a music “journalist.” And he KILLED it, and people love him... or hate him (doesn’t matter). That’s his full-time job and he probably makes more than I ever will and never has to leave his house or manage freelancers or prooof pages of work with publishers or give presentations to disinterested local high-school newspaper classes or jump in his car at 3 a.m. and follow sirens so he can take photos of dead people at crash sites. ... So long story short, I’m bitter. Not too proud to admit that. Not that I want his life or anything. I HATE being filmed and looked at. I HATE being the center of attention in my actual day-to-day life. But I certainly wish that someone lucky enough to hop into a profession on a whim would have the good sense to NOT FUCKING RIP ON “RIVAL DEALER.” :fuckyou: :mad: :fuckyou: |
New Weeknd “project” (EP? album? whatever..) is pretty great.
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:D well from what was a off the cuff joke turned into this?! For what it's worth, I don't really get why Fantano gets so much love. From the very few reviews I've watched he's just...ok. But hey, he found a market and was able to use that to make some mega bucks just from reviewing albums. Fair play to him.
I've got a weird soft spot for Weeknd (I can't feel my face is one of the best pop songs of the last 15 years) so I'll check his new stuff out. |
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OK. I get that. Have that bitter envy, actually, toward some people. And if it makes you feel better, while I think he makes some good points now and then, I very, very rarely make it all the way through his vids. At least, not without speeding them up to get them over with sooner. You seem to envy his fame, not his "talent." |
Rich as in Spirit is fucking awesome. Rich Homie Quan is BACK BABY
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