in spanish you write questions with upside down question mark at beginning, and exclamations with upside down exclamation point at begging so you know what type of sentence it is. he put DIOS MIO between spanish exclamation points.

haven't seen Wonder Woman yet.

I have seen Alien Covenant / which was brilliant. lot of Alien fans do not like it and I agree to some point that he is kinda loosing it with pre sequel plot leaving the door open for another one maybe two more films and left even more questions unanswered what is the story with the "engineers" and did not even bother with helmets and stuff on a different planet this time, while xenomorph could be seen back at the end but it looked kinda funny/too much rendering (compare to the other aliens in this particular movie). yeah he likes his alien franchise alright... but the visuals. man just fantastic.

I wonder how his new Blade Runner is going to be like.

yeah and I had a chance to go to see new Mummy so I went. nice adventurous fairy tail. lady behind me fell asleep. it was so funny.

We'll hang ourselves tomorrow. Unless Gadot comes.

ha!

this page is killing me because I haven't seen Alien: Covenant or WW yet and I'm dying to see both. I *almost* saw WW on Thursday but got home late and felt tired and didn't feel like spending $ so I watched something free instead. Um. Oh! It was Split. Which I enjoyed a lot actually.

But yeah> I'm dying to see WW. Soon.

ha ha ha ha-- it's what rob said-- the opening exclamation. to me it looks different. see if you can tell

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anyway, the movie was good but in itself not THAT good. fact is 75% of that movie's glory belongs to the protagonist, who is simply an otherwordly creature to behold. a bit of a religious experience, this one, and in the place i was whenever they had her closeups or whatever you could hear a pin drop-- the whole audience was agape-- women, men, children, we all worshipped.

before some fool says "i don't want to here about your penis"-- this is not about penises or pornography or arousal, really-- it was more like beholding an ideal rather than a person. so a bit like church, really, if there were any actual gods in church. camille paglia was right all along.

as for the rest, yes it was a good movie and well directed, though maybe a bit too long so i had to go piss at some point (they serve beer), and while they butchered greek mythology and there were some problems with the cinematography (3D movies are just too fucking dark, and i don't watch 3D cuz i get headaches) , it was a good job overall with a good mixture of drama, humor, action, high-minded preaching, etc. pleased to see that a woman did the job better than the many bros who supposedly rule the action genre (lol michael bay).

and i didn't mind the scenes where the action was slowed down and/or frozen-- for one thing it gave us all a greater chance to ogle in awe. and besides the visual glory it made sense visually as it sorta looked like a comic book panel---the frozen frames are precisely what a comic artist would draw. so all good and it was not abused/overused for my standards.

plus extra points for one of the sidekicks looking like franck ribéry-- i can't post a photo here cuz this will erase my scribbling (it happened earlier) but google the guy. ha ha ha.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhimadumbfuck

This is by far the most important thing you touched on and it needs to be addressed immediately.

THE NEW BLADE RUNNER IS GOING TO BE IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE. Nothing but talent in this one (Leto, who hopefully doesn't show his face much). I would trust Dennis Villeneueva with my fucking life at this point, and Ryan Gosling is one of the best there is.

Blade Runner 2049 will be so much better than Mad Max: Fury Road that it will re-define SF reboots/long-overdue sequels even more than the original Blade Runner defined cyber-noir.

It's going to be like a cool kid version of The Force Awakens in terms of the hype it generates, and unless I'm way off base, I think it it will be a better and more interesting film by far.

It will be nominated for Best Picture... this is my early prediction.

I mean, look at the talent here: It's directed by Dennis Villanueva, who killed it with ARRIVAL. It's executive produced by Ridley Scott, who usually kills it when he's not, like, "butchering it" if you know what I mean. Ryan Gosling is great. Harrison Ford, great. Robin Wright, great. Score by Jóhann Jóhansson... I'd normally be really nervous about one of my all time favorite films being re-visited — outside of the the original source material — after so many years, but fuck it, because every sign is pointing to this thing being freaking amazing.

It's going to be the most important SF move since... fucking BLADE RUNNER BITCHES!!!

I haven't seen Alien: Covenant OR Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 yet. Anyone seen Guardians? Is worth it?

I think greenlight's comments about Alien: Covenant are the most positive I've come across. Not ALL of it has been negative, but I'm quite sure that's the first time I've seen the word "brilliant" thrown around.

most people hated Prometheus as well. But I loved it. So I'm not too worried.

Guardians 2 was great. I mean, the complaint will be "more of the same." But "the same" is great. So whatever. I laughed so much - these films are just pure fun.

And back on topic, last night I watched

NR: Wonder Woman is so good. Like, wow. As far as "classic" superhero tales go (e.g., not intentionally genre-busting deviations like Deadpool, Kick-Ass and perhaps even Logan to some degree), it's fucking GOOD. Like, seriously.

Best movie DC has put out since the Nolan years.

Although Sumbols raises a good point that Gal Gadot is utterly divine, an absolutely angelic thing to behold, and not in a perverse kind of way. Not even solely her looks. It's her cadence and grace and smile and accent and timing and everything. She's just incredible. So I guess it could well be that the movie is utter shit, and everyone is just too hypnotized by Gadot to notice or care.

But I don't think so.

Watch it bra.

oh I never needed convincing. Go back like 6 months in this thread. I was saying then that WW looks like it'll be the best comic book movie of 2017. I still think it will be. I've just had a very busy schedule since it hit theaters sadly. But it's super high on my priorities.

The sooner superhero films die a slow death the better.

...or you could choose to not watch something that doesn't interest you?

Looking forward to new Aliens. That's because I am going to assume it sucks shit, that way when it doesn't, I'll be pleased. Clever, no?

it's not BAD, just too much Michael Fassbinder, but then, that's everything, innit?

I'm quite sick of them too, but WW is different. This is a character that should have been one of the first to get a movie, perhaps after only Superman and Batman. Yet, it took 77 freaking years, AND the most superhero-dense cinematic environment in the history of the universe.

I agree, we don't need to see X-Men part 15. We don't need to see Spider-Man ver. 3.1 (though Homecoming does look kinda fun!). We don't need five Avengers movies, or trilogies of every D-list hero in Marvel's canon.

But this is different.

You do yourself a disservice by writing WW off before you see it because of your (very understandable) superhero fatigue. It's sitting at 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. That only happens for the kind of superhero movies that actually qualify as good movies in some way. Deadpool was a good comedy. Logan was a good horror-drama. The Dark Knight is one of the defining fucking cinematic achievements of our time, obviously ( :cool: ), and Wonder Woman is a glorious kind of warped fairy tale. The words "Wonder Woman" are never uttered.

It's also timely. The world need a good piece of populist feminist fiction right now. At least, the US does. I'll bet Trump thinks it's "overrated," aka terrifying.

I can't decide if he's a good actor or a tool. He was great in A Dangerous Method. He was disappointing in X-Men (but maybe that was just the big stupid mask and general terribleness of the movies). Creepy in Prometheus. And for some reason he's in Assassin's Creed too, cuz video game movies are what serious actors do.

RE: Superhero fatigue... I still don't get the concept of "something that I don't like, other people enjoy... so it should not be a thing!"

That's why I don't watch them. :D

However my problem is that all year, every year it's rammed down your fucking throat. You can't escape it. I also think the damage it's done to cinema is massive. Worst thing is it's gonna happen/is happening with Star Wars.

I don't know. There's plenty of stuff out there that I have no interest in. Those Pirates movies come to mind. And I'm sure I could view them as rammed down my fucking throat. But I just take a queue from Paul Anka, and just don't look.

The problem with 300 million dollar movies is that they suck up a lot of oxygen and resources. Other, smaller (better?) films don't get made.

sure superhero movies are generally dumb, but some are a decent spectacle for some reason or another, and it irks me to hear them discussed as art masterpieces which they clearly aren't. they're dumb, cheesy, ridiculous, and often intolerable. like rollercoasters and funnel cakes, they can be fun but make you wanna vomit.

in the case of wonder woman, don't go watch it as a "serious film," which would be absurd and a disappointment. go watch it instead so you can stare at the magnificence that is gal gadot, and bask in her glory.



you know you wanna.

Sure, but at the dollar theater. Don't pay full price. Just encourages them.

do you honestly feel like there's a shortage of non-superhero films right now?

I'm not being a dick. I'm seriously asking.

there's a lack of smaller, well-written movies that take more risks, hell the fuck yeah. i mean. where does one begin. the state of the film industry is quite dismal. yes, honestly, there's a huge shortage of good movies for grownups.

the good writing is gone mostly to TV these days. i find myself watching more Tv and ignoring "film" as of late because it's mostly shit, and has little to offer outside of pure spectacle.

Watched Doctor Strange yesterday after having 4 cavities repaired and two wisdom teeth pulled. it was a fun flick.

Easier said than done. It's on here, it's on my Facebook feed, it's in the magazines you read, it's in the adverts that are EVERYWHERE.

To ignore something like Kim Kardashian is easy. Just avoid the rag newspapers and the tv show there you go. Comic book movies are able different thing altogether.

On average, I watch 30 mins of TV during dinner; binge-watch a TV show w/ wife on Friday night; one or two movies w/ wife on Saturday night; and MAYBE watch a show or movie on my own a night or two during the week. But that's rare. Movies and TV are lower on my list of hobbies and come after video games and comic books.

SO... maybe I don't know as much about the landscape of films.

But I guess I just don't see that smaller high-risk movies would get made more if like, Marvel stopped making movies. And I feel like I've seen some really well done awesome shit that wasn't about superheroes recently. Arrival was amazing for instance. Thought provoking. Well written. Is that not "small" enough or "high risk" enough? (again, not condescending - seriously clarifying).

I guess again - I just don't really see that superhero movies are really blocking the films from existing the you guys are claiming they are. Maybe I'm totally wrong. My brain just doesn't really see it that way. If you're really looking for small high-risk movies, I don't think WB is making those no matter what the Justice League is up to. Y'know?

This pretty much.

Now I'm not looking at the previous decades with rose tinted glasses cos there's shit no matter what decade you look at. However, where are the young Scorceses, Coppolas, Ashbys? Studios aren't gonna take risks on mid-range priced films that are something different. And they're sure as hell not gonna put the money like they do for Batman to advertise them.

Put it this way, can you imagine The Godfather being made today? No fucking way.

I mostly agree. But, a couple of things come to mind. One is that there are still an awful lot of great movies being made in other countries besides the US. I know the big $ is being spent on filmmaking here, but still, there's some awfully good stuff out there, much more than in the past. And, regarding TV, there's a lot of abysmal crap on besides the few genuinely good things.

They really are. Can you think of a period where film studios were so reliant on sequels, remakes and the rest than now?

It used to be sequels were diminishing returns for studios. From the horror movies like Nightmare on elm Street, even to the Superman films. Now they push three-all sequels so much and they make money why WOULD they try and make these other odd films?

All studios care about is is opening weekends and the film making a profit. Quality is dead to them.

I see you're problem - you're on FB!

For some reason I'm thinking of ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF A SPOTLESS MIND. I saw it in a big theater in a small town. That was just a few years ago. I seriously doubt that would happen today.

I think that's a statement you could make about the film industry period. I don't see that it's because of superhero films. Any genre.

But you can't deny that the success of the marvel films has caused other studios to look at them and want that level of money coming in. The idea of a "universe" is appealing cos the money can be phenomenal.

Whether it be the DC films, and now there's the monster universe with The Mummy and the rest of them coming in. That's three of the what four major studios out there?

Hollywood film industry is not concerned with whether americans love the films. there are like 300 million americans and not all of them go to movies. There are over a a billion Indians, and over a billion Chinese, and hundreds of millions of them go watch these hollywood action films.

Yes. The whole movie universe thing was no doubt something that other studios saw Marvel doing successfully and wanted to emulate. But if Marvel stopped making superhero movies, those otehr studios would still do this.

If Marvel and DC and Hasbro and etc all stopped making superhero movies, then other genres from other studios (IE: The Mummy) would still do this.

So, superhero movies dying in a fire would not actually fix what is bother you.

I win. Haha.

I would rather watch superhero movies than movies where normal humans are supposed to do impossible things

well yes you can't blame superhero movies for the ongoing infantilization of adult life and tastes

this is a transgenerational thing. baby boomers wanted to be forever 21, gen-xers embraced the adult cartoon, and milennials want to stay as preteens for life

it's economics/history/the decline of western civilization or whatever

i blame christianity. and breakfast cereals. and helicopter parents.

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not really. i think it's economics, in the end.

now you're making me feel bad about myself, symbols. Thanks.