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ilduclo 07.22.2017 02:23 PM

A Quiet Passion, Emily Dickinson bio. Really good, but not a date movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2392830/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6

Severian 07.22.2017 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
DARK KNIGHT has a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes. So...


(Just teasing)

btw, has anyone seen GET OUT? I've been wanting to talk about it, but it's pointless unless others have seen it.


Not yet.

Severian 07.22.2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
Dunkirk seems to be getting mixed reactions, but that intrigues me more. I was interested in the movie but I don't know if I'd say it was a movie I was anticipating. No particular reason why. Now I'm curious how I'll respond to the movie. I never saw Interstellar either, but post Dark Knight films seems to be following a film career more inspired by Kubrick, and similarly making films that some really love, and others feeling cold on.


96% on RT last I checked.

evollove 07.23.2017 06:24 AM

92% this morning. Sinking like a rock! JK

Actually, I am shocked and disappointed it is PG-13! I can't even tell you how much that punctures my interest in seeing it.

Whoa! GET OUT is at 99%!

Severian 07.23.2017 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
92% this morning. Sinking like a rock! JK

Actually, I am shocked and disappointed it is PG-13! I can't even tell you how much that punctures my interest in seeing it.

Whoa! GET OUT is at 99%!


Something's wrong with the aggregator if so many movies are getting 90%+. Seriously. I question their statistics.

They posted a "best superhero movies" list a while back, and it boggled my mind. Logan was #1 with a score of, like, 92% and Dark Knight was #2 with a score of 94%. And they were ranking purely by score. I didn't get it, then I realized they were using an "adjusted score" to determine the rank, which, I imagine, creates sort of a z-score for the films, and balances out variables like the amount of time a movie has been out, and adjusts movies with fewer reviews to make them comparable side-by-side to movies with more reviews. Which is REALLT stupid for an "all-time" list, and will almost always guarantee that the most popular movie at the time is at the top.

So Logan had an "adjusted score" of 94.54 or something and Dark Knight had an adjusted score of 94.48 or something, and so the movie with a decade of precedent-setting history, voted the best movie of the millennium by twitter users, that is STILL turning up in reviews of every comic-based movie you read because of how influential it was came in second behind the only Wolverine movie that didn't totally suck nards -- a movie that's 6 months old and is still in its sizzle phase, but didn't win any Oscars and didn't change shit.

Stupid fucking site.

Oh, and they re-published the list after Wonder Woman came out, and guess what? It was #2. Same deal as before. Dark Knight had the highest score of any film in the "genre" and it's in third place. Wonder Woman was good too! But ... come the fuck on RT.

Also, the Room has like 36%, which seems awfully high for the "worst movie ever made." Really. Something's up with that fucking site.

DARK KNIGHT! CHRIS NOLAN! FUCK YOU, BUTTHOLES!

Severian 07.23.2017 01:26 PM

Also, all of Nolan's movies have been PG-13 since the first Batman. Insomnia was his last R-rated picture. Not sure why you're surprised. Wasn't Saving Private Ryan PG-13 as well?

Anyway I really want to see Dunkirk but I have nobody to see it with. Nobody's interested. Fuckers.

!@#$%! 07.23.2017 01:50 PM

Why do you need a nanny for the movies. Wanna see something just go and see it. Sheesh.

Severian 07.23.2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
Why do you need a nanny for the movies. Wanna see something just go and see it. Sheesh.


Well, my girlfriend of almost a decade is heading out in a soul-searching RV trip. She usually comes to movies with me. It's been like 7 years since I saw a movie without her. So it's a little rough just now.

:( Going through some shit, Slambang.

And my fucking dog has cancer. (Fuck you're face, God!) :mad:

HenryHill51 07.24.2017 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Something's wrong with the aggregator if so many movies are getting 90%+. Seriously. I question their statistics.

They posted a "best superhero movies" list a while back, and it boggled my mind. Logan was #1 with a score of, like, 92% and Dark Knight was #2 with a score of 94%. And they were ranking purely by score. I didn't get it, then I realized they were using an "adjusted score" to determine the rank, which, I imagine, creates sort of a z-score for the films, and balances out variables like the amount of time a movie has been out, and adjusts movies with fewer reviews to make them comparable side-by-side to movies with more reviews. Which is REALLT stupid for an "all-time" list, and will almost always guarantee that the most popular movie at the time is at the top.

So Logan had an "adjusted score" of 94.54 or something and Dark Knight had an adjusted score of 94.48 or something, and so the movie with a decade of precedent-setting history, voted the best movie of the millennium by twitter users, that is STILL turning up in reviews of every comic-based movie you read because of how influential it was came in second behind the only Wolverine movie that didn't totally suck nards -- a movie that's 6 months old and is still in its sizzle phase, but didn't win any Oscars and didn't change shit.

Stupid fucking site.

Oh, and they re-published the list after Wonder Woman came out, and guess what? It was #2. Same deal as before. Dark Knight had the highest score of any film in the "genre" and it's in third place. Wonder Woman was good too! But ... come the fuck on RT.

Also, the Room has like 36%, which seems awfully high for the "worst movie ever made." Really. Something's up with that fucking site.

DARK KNIGHT! CHRIS NOLAN! FUCK YOU, BUTTHOLES!



Being someone who writes (marginally) in the film culture, I can't tell you how much I kinda hate aggregate sites like this and metacritic. Beyond all the "adjustments" you mentioned, sites such as these leave no room for the middlebrow effect. For example, if a publishing site or critic have slight reservations about a film but give it just enough oomph to recommend it, the quota goes into the favorable column. Basically, a 2 1/2 star film on the age-old scale of 1-4 will fall into the favorable column. This doesn't seem like 96% favorable to me, at times.

Think back on the reviews of Ebert and countless other critics who gave films that queasy 2 1/2 star review. Their opinion could teeter either way, giving it a slight edge for cinematography, the auteur theory director push, or some unseen guilty pleasure that they'd make sure and express in eloquent ways. This wasn't always a shining recommendation. Being kind, maybe. Basically, we've lost the most valuable quotient of discussion and rhetoric and replaced it with blurbs.

I know know.... old man kids get off my lawn. I"m done now. If it gets people to see movies, I'm all for it.

evollove 07.24.2017 08:36 AM

How do they assign points to stuff without a star system or whatever, like New Yorker? Seems really subjective.

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Originally Posted by Severian
Wasn't Saving Private Ryan PG-13 as well?


Of course it wasn't. Would you let a 13 year old watch that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
Why do you need a nanny for the movies. Wanna see something just go and see it. Sheesh.


I don't want a PG-13 war film any more than I want an R rated porno. A PG-13 war film suggests a wussy vision of hell.

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Originally Posted by Severian
And my fucking dog has cancer.


Fun! I had to put down a cat cause of cancer. Good times! Glad I took photos at the vet's office so I can experience that joy over and over. Really, one of the best parts of life is losing a best friend who loves you unconditionally for no good reason at all.

!@#$%! 07.24.2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Well, my girlfriend of almost a decade is heading out in a soul-searching RV trip. She usually comes to movies with me. It's been like 7 years since I saw a movie without her. So it's a little rough just now.

:( Going through some shit, Slambang.

And my fucking dog has cancer. (Fuck you're face, God!) :mad:

O man. Thats all kinds of fucked up. I thought she had already gone. But the dog--awful news. My cat died last year. Terrible. I know how it feels. Sorry man.

Anyway just go on a matinee and dont make it a "date". It's just a movie.

Severian 07.24.2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
O man. Thats all kinds of fucked up. I thought she had already gone. But the dog--awful news. My cat died last year. Terrible. I know how it feels. Sorry man.

Anyway just go on a matinee and dont make it a "date". It's just a movie.


She was going to go at the end of May, then it became the end of June, now it's the end of July. Made for a summer of constantly bracing for impact that never seems to come, but she's moved most of her stuff into storage at this point, and it's not going to be much longer. :(

The dog... god fucking dammit. I suck at losing pets. Lost my childhood dog when I went off to college. He got sick about a month after I left, and 3 months later I got a call. Fucked my entire life up. I've lost one rescue dog and one cat since, and while I still have my cat from 2006, who's crossed the country with me and been a really healing presence (he's, like, my best friend), my dog is going to be irreplaceable. Not looking forward to what comes next.

You'd think losing pets would get easier as you get older, but it doesn't. I think it actually gets harder.

Yeah, I'll go to a matinee or something.

demonrail666 07.24.2017 11:41 AM

 


John Carter

This was savaged by the critics and flopped at the box office (I think). There is loads wrong with it but it's become a real guilty pleasure.

Rob Instigator 07.24.2017 12:51 PM

I thought John Carter was pretty cool! Like Tron on Mars!

d.sound 07.30.2017 08:29 AM

i've been on a movie kick lately, especially sci fi.

cloud atlas - no idea why this was panned, i thought it was brilliant

the arrival - charlie sheen in an alien movie? kind of terrible, but not too bad

american dreams - cool flick on netflix. girl on farm finds a dude locked up in a silo.

butter - fuckin funny. comedy about a mid-west state fair butter sculpture competition

safety not guaranteed - i'll admit, the clincher for trying this movie was aubrey plaza. not a bad flick. ending was a little cheesy.

a scanner darkly - the list of actors was off putting, but it is philip k dick so i tried it anyway. glad i did.

!@#$%! 07.30.2017 11:21 AM

^ i liked cloud atlas too

what's offputting about scanner darkly's cast? name some names

--

anyway last movie i watched was...

MONKEY BUSINESS

which was old and arrived by surprise but was actually very funny. cary grant and ginger rogers and some monkeys are in it.

it actually had a serious philosophical point to make about the impossibility of eternal youth but so well wrapped in comedy it seemed like some classical greek farce.

is it a classical greek farce?

anyway, very good

oh yes marylin monroe is in it unfortunately playing an annoying dumb blonde. it's a small part

here's a poster i guess:

 

Rob Instigator 07.31.2017 09:00 AM

watched this bad boy again.
 

Rob Instigator 07.31.2017 09:01 AM

and my wife and I watched Rogue One on the Netflix. I liked it even more without the 3-D Imax bullshit that I saw it on the opening night.
 

Severian 07.31.2017 11:33 AM

SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

Good for a Spider-Man movie. Tons of fun. Wish I'd seen Dunkirk. Girlfriend didn't want to though, and this was kind of our last night out. :(

Fuck.

ilduclo 08.04.2017 09:47 AM

Watched Valerian. If you get a chance to see it 3d it is pretty spectacular. Pretty bad dialog and overly cutsie characters, though, kind of like Star Wars on stevia :lol:

noisereductions 08.04.2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
and my wife and I watched Rogue One on the Netflix. I liked it even more without the 3-D Imax bullshit that I saw it on the opening night.
 


we watched this last weekend finally. I thought it was a good movie with a great ending. But I also thought it was totally unnecessary. Total fan service. Which is fine.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2017 10:38 AM

there are absolutely NO movies that are necessary. They are all superfluous to their source material.

noisereductions 08.04.2017 10:40 AM

you know what I mean.

!@#$%! 08.04.2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
there are absolutely NO movies that are necessary. They are all superfluous to their source material.


how many screenplays have you read lately? :D

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
you know what I mean.


i think this movie was "necessary" to update this 40-year-old "saga" from the knee-jerk narrative of princesses needing rescue, repeatedly, as eternal recipients of male heroism and/or oppression-- from obi wan my only hope to jabba the hut's sex slave chains, enuff with the save-mes.

of course this one still perpetuates the aristocratic ideology of the series-- great individuals begetting great individuals and everyone else an anonymous blur. a bullshit obsession with parentage and ancestry. in real life "great people" tend to come from nowhere and their issue returns to the great nowhere. cue up fanfare for the common "man".

and yeah, a lot of art these days has to be about gender, and no, it's not arbitrary. the world is changing, and trumpism is the last gasp of the old dying order.

Severian 08.04.2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
there are absolutely NO movies that are necessary. They are all superfluous to their source material.


What about movies that are originals, and have no source material aside from the screenplay for the movie itself?

Eh?

Also, I disagree. If that's true then no work of art is necessary, and art itself is unnecessary. So, we need to better operationalize the word "necessary" before we can get into a thing about what the word does and doesn't apply to.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2017 02:47 PM

no work of art is necessary. EXACTLY

ART-ifice.....

!@#$%! 08.04.2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
no work of art is necessary. EXACTLY

ART-ifice.....

boricua please!

i dare you to live one month with no art

Rob Instigator 08.04.2017 03:46 PM

I make art. I AM art....

!@#$%! 08.04.2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I make art. I AM art....


per your premise then, you're totally unnecessary

 

demonrail666 08.05.2017 11:16 AM

But can we live a month without him?

!@#$%! 08.05.2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
But can we live a month without him?

this board would be then deader than jesus

A Thousand Threads 08.05.2017 05:11 PM

The Other Side (Luisiana)



 


A friend recommended it to me as great documentary, so it took me a few minutes to get whats actually going on.
I think Minervini (director) worked on this sometime early 2016. His approach of working with real life characters playing themeleves in an anthropologically informed, fictional screenplay bears quite fascinating results. Are you all still busy discussing hollywood/europeansuperhero/japanesefeminist rape movies?
All you doomed to death 'mericans well and safe?

ilduclo 08.05.2017 05:57 PM

shouldn't that be in the Trump thread?

Severian 08.05.2017 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
per your premise then, you're totally unnecessary

 


AWWWW SNAP OR WHATEVER PEOPLE SAY!!!

Severian 08.05.2017 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I make fart. I AM fart....


Lol. Look what I made it say instead of what it really says. :)

Should I say "Fixed" now? Y'know, to really put the internet cherry on top of my stupid bullshit?

Severian 08.05.2017 07:58 PM

Y'know, for a robot made out of a box and a plunger, the Daleks have done really well for themselves in pop culture. Gotta admire that.

!@#$%! 08.05.2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
AWWWW SNAP OR WHATEVER PEOPLE SAY!!!

hey, i didn't mean it in a fighting way. only argumentative, which it's not the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Y'know, for a robot made out of a box and a plunger, the Daleks have done really well for themselves in pop culture. Gotta admire that.


they're definitely the inspiration for r2d2. for sure lucas watched that. i didn't realize this till the other day.

Severian 08.05.2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hey, i didn't mean it in a fighting way. only argumentative, which it's not the same.



Believe it or not, I didn't mean "AW SNAP OR WHATEVER PEOPLE SAY" in a fighting or pro-fighting way either. I kinda thought that would be obvious from the ridiculousness of the comment. I just saw that YOU were referencing DOCTOR WHO and I was like, "Aww, hell yeah!"

So, sorry if I sounded trolly. I was just being nerdy. I honestly forgot there was any kind of argument going on as soon as I saw the Daleks, and then.. well, what can I say. Instinct took over.

!@#$%! 08.05.2017 09:37 PM

 


"D "D "D

ilduclo 08.06.2017 11:19 AM

so, a few one's I've watched recently.

Paris was a Woman- 1910's thru 1940's. 2, count em, 2 wars! Great history, well put together, fascinating

new Emily Dickinson bio pic A Quiet Passion, very very good.

The Wolf Pack, interesting family dynamic there....

Maudie, I disagree with the reviewers that didn't like this, I thought it was absolutely great. Some complaints about Ethan Hawke in it, I thought he was just about perfect in the role, and Sally Hawkins is spectacular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCZ_guQTGNw


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