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christ man. where the fuck did i say that psychology wasn't science? of course the tv show features pseudoscience. "you're lying"--EXACTLY! PSEUDOFUCKINGSCIENCE! even the guy it was based on was bullshit you say. SO: TWICE PSEUDOSCIENCE. ok, moving on, slightly irritated. ps-tenets |
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Sorry I wasn’t pissed. I misread and thought you meant psychology was a pseudo-science. My bad. Totally my bad. My apologies for ranting and raving. I re-read and get it now. |
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yeah i thought you were not reading at all and just using my post as an excuse to go off on your own :D so-- thanks for saying that! anyway. on to movies! that new orleans docu i posted above is really great and it's on amazon. |
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LOVE "The Truman Show". Funny thing. Visited my best friend in L.A. about fifteen years ago for the first time and he was forced to take me on all the touristy shit, so of course we did the Universal Studios tour. At one point, we come around a bend and there's this huge sound stage and the guide says "......used most recently in films like The Truman Show and its ocean finale...." After the Jaws thing that comes out of the water, the "Back to the Future" car ten feet away and other things, I was most jazzed all day about that stupid Truman Show soundstage. Don't know why. Also, I sort of agree that "Gattaca" is one of the most underrated sci-fi films of all time. Not only does it feature one of the best scores ever (by the great Michael Nyman), but its an emotional wallop of a film whose earth-bound ideas are just as resonant as its outer space themes. At the time of this and "The Truman Show", I was ready to proclaim Andrew Niccol as THE NEXT BIG AUTEUR. He just lost it. Films like "Lord of War", "In Time", "Simone" and "Good Kill".... they're all so ham-fisted and lacking. But, "Gattaca", best film of '97 which is saying alot for that packed year. |
__NewBarbarians(1).jpg) The New Barbarians Bronx Warriors 2, basically. Utterly shameless Italian rip-off of Mad Max 2. Bordering on a flat out copy, but with an 80s electro-disco soundtrack and some seriously hardcore haircuts. I fucking love this film.  |
The book was better.
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Finally got round to watching the Balde Runner shorts that have been released as a precursor to the film. The Blackout episode in particular was just great. It's almost worth a movie on its own.
It's certainly kicked up my hype levels for the film too. Bring. it. on. |
I haven't watched them yet. Been meaning to. I kind of assume they'll all be compiled on blu-ray with the film later.
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I CANNOT FUCKING WAAAAAIIIT!!! Aaaaaahhhh! |
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Yeah, a lot later. Just watch them. You’re supposed to. One is directed by Flying Lotus I think. I only watched one and it was so-so. THE MOVIE IS GOING TO BE FUCKING GODLIKE THOUGH!!! |
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The animated one is definitely worth watching. I think they're gonna be referenced in the film at some point. It's gonna be interesting to see how David Bautista does too. |
 The Cell, its been years since I've seen this movie. |
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I formally predict that Blade Runner 2049 will be nominated for Best Picture, and blow everyone away by being as good as the first. RT score seems to strongly support this. It could be this year’s Fury Road. Only, y’knkw, better. You heard it here. Blade Runner 2049. Best Picture nomination at le Oscars. Seriously. Against Dunkirk and whatever the hell else there is. |
Blade Runner 2049 fucking amazing in every way. great atmosphere, camera, scenes, music, acting. brilliant.
was not able to see the whole movie! never happened to me before. throughout two thirds of a movie we have been told to leave the cinema as firefighters were evacuating whole complex because of a gas leak or something. imagine! I haven't even catch Ford's appearance and plot was just kicking in. now I am like wtf. have to go back, I do not know when and finish it. at least they refunded our ticks. brilliant movie. (horrible hollywood's vision of future tho. and it seems that we might be heading that direction) |
 The Mist I mentioned it not that long ago but picked up the double disc copy with the b&w version. I'd seen the colour version and loved it but this version was what the director wanted and it definitely works. Whichever version though, it's still one of my favourite horror films in a long time. And that ending!  |
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GO BACK RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. NOW. IT’S SATURDAY. GO GO! |
I didn't know the mist had a black and white version. Neat.
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Yeah, when I 1st heard about it I thought it was just a weird gimmick, but it definitely adds something. Not that there's anything wrong with the colour one. It's a really good film in either format.
Has anyone seen the TV series version that apparently started last week? |
is it a different edit altogether or just a color thing?
because i've been looking for it and i'll just desaturate the color version if i get it first |
They need to put the black & white version of the Mist as an option on iTunes like they do for Logan and Mad Max Fury Road. I have never seen The Mist, but I if/when I do finally watch it I want to see it in black and white.
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(this is why i'm asking if it's the same edit) |
Yes it's the same edit. The b&w just gives it a slightly different mood so no reason why you can't just desaturate your tv.
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might be graded a little differently but im gonna assume not much if at all
(because color gets all of the glory but values do most of the work) thanks! |
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hehe. tuesday. I'll go on tuesday. today I went to that great little music festival - http://uh.hu/?lang=en |
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I imagine it’s a different edit, and not simply a BW/grayscale adjustment of the original. It would look funky. And from what I can tell, the filmmakers who do BW edits are BIG into the effect of BW. See George Miller’s Mad Max Fury Road “Black and Chrome” edit. Or James Mangold’s BW Logan. These toon additional work and thought. I don’t think turning the color down on the screen will give you the “pure” experience the directors are wanting you to have. But what do I know? Just switching a photo from CMYK to greyscale screws up the levels more than I imagine a director with any pride in his craft would permit.  |
^ that is not just turning the color down to zero. At least that’s my opinion on the whole thing. I know fuckall about video though, so blah blah...
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BUT ive seen stills of both mists and they seem prety close--have not seen movie but both sets of stills look equally dark that spider gif above does not look particularly constrasty--unlike mad max. nice soft grayscale, all the midtones. a bit of tweaking should satisfy in that case i think. the mad max one is obviously a very distinct grading tho. im having a night of insomnia so trying to type quietly here (slow w/ no kboard). but yeah. |
eta left is desaturated right is black and chrome
 but was reading about the process of turning color film into bw print and its more complicated--they do manipulate color also before desaturating, the same way that a color filter would change a bw (film exposure by altering the part of the spectrum that provides luminance.) so a lot more science into that. not sure what the mist dude did. BUT considering how most people watch tv, might not matter much for a home dvd. |
ok here it is: looks a little contrastier (esp brighter whites) but not dramatically "black and chrome"
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/32819...s-edition-the/ |
Yeah, thinking about it, there must've been some heavy work done with things like contrast, at least during the more atmospheric scenes. Although I'd say the film ultimately works more at the level of ideas, and story-telling, than aesthetics Certainly the release of a b&w version doesn't suddenly make the colour one redundant. It's more just a cool alternative.
Either way, fans of heavily Lovecraftian horror (I know Severian's into it) should definitely look out for The Void and The Mist. |
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Yeah, I was watching a video about color grading in modern digital cinematography the other day, and it’s pretty intricate stuff. The whole “look” comes from the grading, which takes longer with digital because you’re dealing with raw images, that suck up all the information in the color spectrum. Film apparently doesn’t work like this (not sure why), but is more expensive to shoot with and more expensive to edit. I guess. Pretty interesting. Apparently all the Marvel movies since Iron Man 2 have been shot using the same grading method, which is digital and very low on contrast, giving the movie’s kind of a blanket “muddy” (too much raw info, not enough saturation and contrast) which I had not previously noticed. So yeah, taking an effective color movie like Fury Road (TONS of grading in that thing) and simply flipping the saturation down wouldn’t do the trick. Or it would, but it would probably be nigh unwatchable because the adjustments made for color would still be present in BW, and it would probably lead to a bit of a mess. |
well yes and no---about the last part. a good picture must always work in gradations of light and darkness. so just desaturating a good color picture doesnt make a mess, and often works just fine. desaturating wouldn't revert to the flat raw file. the left side of the picture above is less awesome than the right side but hardly "a mess."
reason raw works so different is that film already came embedded with its own pregrading--you had fast film, slow film, high contrast film, etc. you could always refine later but it came with a kind of limiting preset. the awesome thing about raw vs compressed digital is that you can manipulate the file absolutely without destroying the image at all--impossible with prosumer cameras and earlier codecs. (but soon we'll get there--in the consumer/prosumer i mean). but anyway yeah since raw is infinitely tweakable, because all the original information always remains, all you really care about is not burning your whites or crushing your blacks-- hence you shoot for the middle and *that* looks a mess ungraded |
anyway speaking of film-film finally saw THE LOVE WITCH
 which at the beginning looks like an homage to 60s/early-70s softcore pornography maybe, then you realize-- no! it's more! and you think "occult murder mystery" but no! midway it turns into a carnival of insanity that you didn't expect! loved it really, highly impressed with anna biller who wrote, produced, directed and edited this-- usually those projects are a clusterfuck of incompetent narcissism but here it was the brilliant execution of an unusual vision. and isn't that what one wants from art? and yeah it was shot on film. they did a great job of reconstructing an old film look and they made the main character look especially amazing. great great movie really and totally not what i expected-- campy but serious and smart at the same time. |
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Well I watched one video on the internet, soooooo pretty sure I’m an expert now. ;) |
 Holy fucking wow. Just... wow. |
Ugh I need to get to the theater soon for that. It's killing me.
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It kinda bombed at the box office I guess, but I attribute that to the R-rating, the cult nature of the fan base for the original, and on the runtime (2 hours and 44 minutes... it’s long, though it doesn’t feel long). Anyway, I walked out of the theater thinking, “If that movie doesn’t get nominated for Best Picture, then the only reason is that the world will have ended before noms can be announced.” But now I wonder... Forbes calls it a “total bomb” and the Rotten Tomatoes score is down from 98% to 89%. STILL... I was absolutely blown away. I read a negative review from some bullshit website called “Little White Lies,” where the author seemed to have been watching a completely different film than the one I was watching. It comes up almost immediately if you Google the movie, but I’ve never heard of the place. Anyway, key demographic is old nerds like us, but younger generations would be remiss to not soak this movie up. I can’t even really process it all yet, but I think Debis Villeneuve is... (gasp) ... actually — possibly — better at cerebral thrillers than Christopher Nolan :eek: I know... *my* Christopher Nolan! That’s not to say Blade Dunner 2049 is better than Dark Knight (not), but I think there’s a bit more finesse In Villeneuve’s VERY Nolan- and Kubrick-esque touch. I will have more to say about this for sure. But in short ... Blade Runner 2049 is not only my favorite movie of the year (keep in mind I have not seen Dunkirk), it’s the best attempt at rebooting a sci-fi classic. It leaves The Force Awakens in its dust. And Star Trek. And Fury Road. But BR was never as big as those films, so it can’t be expected to outperform them. But anyone with a brain will find that the only negative about this movie is possible the backache you get from watching it in an uncomfy chair (worth it). Deserves a Best Picture nod for fucking sure. |
I should try to watch the original Blade Runner soon. I think I've seen it, but never absorbed any of it enough to consider myself as having watched it.
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it's the best version i forget the name-- there are many many many versions but that one is the one unless there are multiple versions of that lol eta yeah go for the 2007 "final cut" i guess which i havent seen i think ha ha ha (but now i wanna) failing that go for the 92 directors cut |
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