The first song off "Birds in the Trap Sing McKnight" is also very good, by the way.. coming from someone who didn't really like Rodeo as much as he wanted to..

Read the interview here: https://myspace.com/article/2016/6/2...ist-of-the-day

Really dude? Nothing to say about Cruel Winter being an actual thing, and not just a hypothetical from Q-tip or whoever the hell gave that quote about it?

Song sounds insanely good too, by the way. The Cruel Winter track, that is.

Here! Everyone listen to this shit before someone takes it down! It's a live rip from Big Boy in the morning of the Cruel Winter track tentatively titled "Champions" ...

Kanye West Presents "Champions" feat. Gucci Mane, Travi$ Scott, Desiigner, 2 Chainz and bunch of other mitherfuckers

Seriously... It's got that Good Summer feel to it. Radio rap, yes, but hot as hell and extremely dramatic and epic. Even 2 Chainz sounds great. It's more of a 'Ye "event" at this point than a 'Ye song, but so was much of Cruel Summer, which I love.

!!!

Louder man,
Hey dawg, how long has it been since you popped on a track or two from TLOP just to see if you felt differently about it? I'm assuming it's been a big fat fuckin' while.

I was on the road yesterday, and took the opportunity to listen to it from start to finish — "filler" tracks included — which I haven't actually done in a while at this point. I usually either play ULB-Highlights (the first half) or start with "Waves" and go through to the end. But I listened to everything, and even to me, the guy who's loved it since the start, it sounded better than ever. I no longer wish "I love Kanye" and "Silver Surfer" weren't on the album. I dig the moments of respite they offer. And taken as a whole, it's just a BEAST.

I really hope you revisit it. I think it's possible that you might kinda do a flip-flop on it.

I do this with albums I don't like initially ALL THE TIME. I check in on them to see if time away from the record has cleansed my palette, allowing me to appreciate things I once took for granted. I did this with My Krazy Life, because I did not care for that album at first. I did it with Good Kid after I saw Kendrick live. I have done it with countless Future tapes. Sometimes I still feel nothing for the album. But usually I find something I didn't notice the first time around.

I say this because I've heard a ton of great music this year from all over the music spectrum. Really impressive stuff. Some of it is truly brilliant. But there's just nothing out there, not even among the handful of TOP TIER releases this year has produced... there's NOTHING that can even hold a candle to TLOP. It sucks me in every time, and apparently not even 99% or Lemonade or Coloring Book, or long awaited new releases from Pantha Du Prince or Autechre can compete with this album.

I hope you give it another go, now that you've had some months to distance yourself from the hype and hysteria. Because Pablo delivers. If the lyrics don't grab you, the production has to (or... really should).

Anyway, that's my schpeal. Go on about your business.

Itcwas QTip and i hope to goodness he is heavily involved.

Listened to Cruel Summer today in preperation.

I dont skip anythin ob pablo. That and coloring book are just amazing to me this year.

Aight Sev, I'll give TLOP another chance soon.. also since Kanye improved the mixing on some songs (so I heard).

I'm looking forward to Cruel Winter of course, but I really wish Q-Tip, Mos and Common were heavily involved in the project, which doesn't seem so realistic at this point. :(

Did you check the song out? It's a freakin' behemoth. Though like I said, it doesn't really sound like a straight up 'Ye song. That's fine though. I want GOOD Music to succeed as a label. I don't want it to just be a vehicle for self-promotion like OVO.

Yes, listen to TLOP start to finish. Give it another go, as it were. I feel like it's been a more consistently celebrated record than even Yeezus was, and once you accept the fact that it's Ye in "committee"-mode, rather than a Kanye-show album (read: more MBDTF than 808's or Yeezus), it goes down more smoothly as a whole.

Take your time of course, but remember ... I hauled ass to listen to I Don't Like Shit... again last time we talked about that, and took your words of praise to heart while I re-evaluated an album I'd largely written off. No pressure though ;)

ELDORADO is finally up on Spotify.. so maybe it's time for a certain someone *uhm* to check it out. ;)

New Vic Mensa EP, download for free: http://pitchfork.com/news/65860-vic-...alot-going-on/



The cover art is lame.. but he's a talented dude. Loved "Down on My Luck" and his verse on Wolves. I'll give it a chance.

TLOP is Kanye being lazy. it's amazing how really stupid he sounds when gone a long time without hearing the record. TLOP is the most childish pop/star stupid rap record of 2016. boring album.

his feel good dream of " having evil porn hot thick ass sex with a dark light shade girl with questionable good pussy' has faded and now he should just focus on being a daddy. with his old ass. welcome to fatherhood and normal sex Ye. it's over Kanye unless you can get the other ugly sisters to lick yr brown balls.

don't promote it like it's the shit unless yr Muhammad Ali.

too bad he's as boring as searching for a four leaf clover. good looking black kid MTV.com ready. can't rap, tattoos, sounds like a ready made Micky dee's commercial. yeah, he suck!! he's yr mellineminem generations's Tommy Tutone.

oh look, he has 'southside' tattooed on his neck!!! oh cool! he must be from the southside, throws rocks and slams killer pussy. I bet the kids in Scotland will get a thrill out of that.

stick to yr Danny Brown and yr classic limp biscuit kids. only losers on percocets and cut molly mix with weed listen to this shit .

don't tell me otherwise. been there, done that, and stuck my finger in yr mother and survived the limp biscuit Korn era. I know a thing or two. so go do yr homework and don't be late for class kiddos.

suck on a blunt suck on nuts. ASAP!

LOL. Thank you for funny posts.

I think Vic is a total cornball.. I mean, just look at this pic:



With that said, I'm starting to like it. I'm tired of rappers who are way tougher (Gibbs, The Game) or way cooler (Future, ASAP Rocky) than me.

oh come on man! he's an young asshole and should put the guitar down because he saw Prince is dead in the grocery store mag rack while buying olive oil for his mama to cook lasagna. he's better off dying his hair and trying to fuck white bitches on '16 and pregnant mommy I have a black rapper boyfriend' on MTV.com.

nerdy four eyed boys cuckold love to think females love them being cuckold.

suck sperm smoke blunts. pussy whipped = no good pussy for you.

Sorry, but you've flip flopped too much on this topic to be taken seriously anymore. Just last week you said another Kanye album in 2016 would turn you into an honest person.

And you praised 30 Hours after initially calling it a fucking Drake ripoff. You have lost whatever credibility you may once have had. Also, you say whatever whenever, whether you believe it or not. For these reasons and many others, you are not part of TLOP talk.

It's a great album and you're probably some kind of Bitch if you can't see that. Even if you don't like every second, I wouldn't believe you if you said you didn't like Real Friends or FML or Ultra light Beam or Fade. I just wouldn't believe a goddam word of that shit.

It's already been culturally vetted and accepted as a great album. Why wage war on the world? Especially when you can't keeps focused thought in your head to save your life?

Haters can hate, but Pablo is already a classic.

Now run along and flipping flop to the barber shop, rabbit!

Seriously, if you can't dig "Fade" you're stuck in the safe zone. I'm not sure Kanye's ever made a more powerful song.

And if you can't dig Real Friends, you probably have no business listening to anything other than the most generic thug ass hip hop, cuz you have no taste.

If you can't dig ULB, you're probably a sociopath. As for the rest of the album, if you can't dig any of it, you probably take yourself way too seriously. Even the songs I didn't initially love sounds like gold to me now. Father Stretch my Hnds 1&2... Even FACTS. I can't believe how much I love FACTS now.

"With only one guest feature from Ty Dolla Sign, the EP tackled issues such as the Flint water crisis, the Shooting of Laquan McDonald, and self-inflicted wounds.

The EP was highly anticipated due to the fact of the long period of time between Mensa's last project INNANETAPE which was released on the 30th of September 2013 highlighting almost a 3 year break between the projects. The project deals with a lot of Mensa's personal problems as he details his struggles with addictions to a range of drugs and suicidal thoughts."

LOL. I agree that he shouldn't get anywhere near a guitar unless he really learns what he's doing. But he's a good rapper.

Snoop Dogg changed the title of his upcoming album from "The Return of Doggystyle" to "Cool Aid".. probably means something about the quality of the record we should expect. :/

Ha!

Severian you take Kanye way to seriously bruh. Does Kim know about all this?

I know, it's weird. I'm not usually like this. Growing up a sonic youth fan basically means you have to develop a thick skin about the music you listen to. I could listen to people trash Sonic Youth all day and it wouldn't bother me, but when I see people post memes about killing Kanye, or hear people talking about him as though he's nothing but an insane dude who says dumb shit, it makes me unreasonably and irrationally pissed. Mostly because people almost never talk about his music actually being bad. They just say "Kanye West sucks," whether they know fuckall about his music or not.

It's kind of emblematic of a bigger cultural problem, where people don't see hip-hop as a legitimate musical art form. They think that if people can say words really fast, then they're "good" hip-hop artists, and if they can't/don't, they're "not good" hip-hop artists.

By that logic, Emiem is the greatest ever and J Dilla is a talentless hack.

I don't know man. I'm not proud of my Kanyd worship, but I do love Kanye and his music means a great deal to me. I don't like it when folks write him off because they like the "fishdicks" South Park episode. Or because they want to be part of the intelligencia, and have some rule about liking things that are within 6 degrees of separation from something dumb and mainstream (like Kim Kardashian). That kind of thinking is self-defeating and ultimately just incredibly phony.

If someone said they didn't like Kanye for reasons that had anything at all to do with his music, and were well thought out and sincere and original, I wouldn't get so pissed. But usually it's just bandwagon hopping, and it's annoying as hell.

I love Kanye's music and aknowledge he's an insane guy who says dumb shit. haha. So I feel you man. It's like when everyone was on about the whole "I'ma let you finish thing." I'm like "dudes. I love Kanye. I love Taylor. None of what your'e saying is about music. It's TMZ shit."

Severian if it makes you feel any better is mostly for his music that i don't like Kanye

That actually does make me feel better.
But I also know that — because you're not a brain dead oaf — you can probably hear the complexities and inherent strangeness that permeates all of Kanye's post-2004 work.

All I need is for people to get that it's the kind of music and sound engineering that very, very few people can do. Even if you hate it, I'll be fine as long as you don't try to convince me that Kanye has no talent.

Yeah.

Except I actually think he was 100% right about that one. What kind of moron would place Swift (especially early Swift... That God-awful "Just Say Yes" song?) over "Single Ladies?" Was it rude, yep. Was it mean, yep. Was it pretty much unnecessary because the Video Music Awards carry no clout whatsoever and mean nothing to anyone who isn't Nicki Minaj? Yeah, absolutely.

But I'm not going to fault someone for saying that generic piece of garbage junior high asswipe song had NO business winning against "Single Ladies." That was an abomination, even though it didn't mean shit.

I didn't care then and I don't care now.

Love Kanye. Love Taylor. Genuinely have no idea (nor desire to know) which awards either of them have won.

Yeah that's cool man. I guess I really don't care much either, because it's not like Bey has suffered. It's just a dumbass MTV award.

I just happen to be a really big fan of "Single Ladies" (song AND video), and while I definitely dig some Taylor songs, I really dislike that particular one. But I wouldn't have batted an eye about Swift winning that award if Kanye hadn't made a scene, because I would have never known about it, because I hate everything about MTV... and award shows.

So never mind. And yes, all of those public episodes that people use to define Kanye are straw men. They mean nothing, and have nothing to do with his art.

I will never for the life of me understand why you always invest so much fucks in the value of music awards? They are even more an empty media popularity contest than the NBA MVP! Who gives
a fuck aside from teenage girls and music critics?

I thought it was a shrewd and calculated marketing ploy. It sets up Beyonce as the anti-Swift, and in all respects she is.

Beyonce - heterosexual, african american, roots in Dirty South, grew up middle-class, can dance her sizable ass off, political,
Swift - closeted homosexual, WASP, Yankee blueblood, grew up wealthy, cant shake that twiggy butt to save her life, shies from politics,


;)

First off, it's "so many fucks" ...

Second, what do you mean I invest value in awards? I said repeatedly that the awards don't mean shit! I feel the same way about the Grammys and to some extent the Oscars. They're worthless.

But that's because they cater with bullshit decisions and "rulings" that the world is supposed to see as somehow official. If these awards did less of the shit that I bitch about them doing, they would be less worthless.

Also, not sure if you've noticed, but I like to blow of steam from time to time. I don't give a percent of a percent of a god forsaken fuck about the MTV awards. I wish they didn't exist. I hate them. They're awful. They make people stupider and they infect infect the minds of music listeners, narrowing public awareness of music and the arts. I place ZERO value in them, but I reserve the right to complain about them nonetheless.

Surely you can understand that.

The time e-40 kidnapped biggie

https://amp.twimg.com/v/a8013ff8-4c3...9-20c07f82fcc9

What is that show? Who was that weird Cubano dude who was just sitting there?

That was a good little view though, man. I liked that shit. E-40 is funny as hell. Truth be told I didn't realize he was so prone to violence!

I like that bit where totally boring white guy in a suit said, "so you extended Biggie's life" and 40 just says, "However you wanna put it." Hah. So dry. He's kinda trying to downplay the situation, and then he just goes flat and basically says yeah, I chose not to kill that bitch.

Haha!

Still love Big and Wu and whatnot all day long, but that was fucking good. Thanks for sharing!

Have you just not been listening to e-40? He talks about merking folks on like every other track ;)

I don't know what merking means. I often miss references to violence in hip-hop because I don't knew the lingo very well at all.

I did listen to E-40, though. For a long time. He was never one of my abso-faves, but I've always liked him. In the last year or two I've kinda lost interest and lost track of what he's been up to lately.

^what's that?

Merking means kill somebody. Indeed just put on The Element of Surprise again, its essentially one of most violent records in rap