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Severian 11.24.2018 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
nominated for best picture in 1977: "Taxi Driver," "All the President's Men," and "Network."

The winner? Sylvester Stallone's "Rocky."


Lol.

Yeah. “Rocky” has heart too, though. But indeed... wrong choice.

Goddamn academy.

!@#$%! 11.24.2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It's a great film. Katie Jarvis's performance is brilliant - although I can see how it might not travel well. It's a cliche saying a film has a heart but this one really does.


oh yeah she was very good—pimply forehead and all

which is why it was so depressing—i mean, that life.

reminds me of that mike leigh movie about the cab driver, but in a way bleaker because there are no parents. more like that 90s movie “kids”, sorta.

neorrealism lives on.

so the people with the horse are travellers?

demonrail666 11.24.2018 03:01 PM

Yeah, they're travellers.

The film definitely comes out of that Mike Leigh, Ken Loach, Alan Clarke, tradition. Have you ever seen Gary Oldman's film Nil By Mouth? That takes gritty to a whole other level.

h8kurdt 11.24.2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yeah, they're travellers.

The film definitely comes out of that Mike Leigh, Ken Loach, Alan Clarke, tradition. Have you ever seen Gary Oldman's film Nil By Mouth? That takes gritty to a whole other level.


I was literally thinking about that when reading Symbols' post. Amazing film and probably the only film where I can stand Ray Winstone for more than 5 minutes. Kathy Burke, however, is just incredible in it/

demonrail666 11.24.2018 03:35 PM

Yeah agree all round. But as brilliant as it is, I've only managed to get through it a couple of times. Maybe because of how brilliant it is, in terms of what it's about.

!@#$%! 11.24.2018 03:59 PM

i recognize the title but that’s about all—now im interested

thanks!

!@#$%! 11.24.2018 11:42 PM

fassbinder’s THE MARRIAGE OF MARIA BRAUN (1978)

 


i had seen this so long ago and so out of context i did not remember it at all. ok maybe i did not see it at all and i just dreamed it. ive seen veronika voss for sure. i think ive seen lola.

anyway it was great to watch it after all these (years? never?) and see that—this is not a play like other of his previous movies. this is a novel!

and it’s pretty epic in scope, and awesome. it does not hurt that hannah schygulla is hot as fuck in this ha ha ha. but no, greeeeeat story and characters, and i get that this is an allegory of the adenauer era and i don’t get it completely but i get some of it and i loved this film. no, not like la dolce vita, but more than, uh, too many american bullshit films to count.

the shadow of sirk is still there at times but i feel the vocabulary of images has exploded and expanded to match the scope of the story. it was a brilliant job, especially measured against his previous achievements.

sure this is a tragedy but it does not lack its hilarious moments. more of a tragicomedy? something. but that the final scene happened with the background of the 1954 world cup final blasting out the radio (or maybe it was the foreground, depends how you listen) was great and super cackleworthy. puskas! puskas! ha ha ha ha. wow.

brilliant really. i get that it’s somehow “provincial” in scope as it deals specifically with one nation’s politics, so that a lot is lost in translation, and so it misses out on greater universal appeal (la dolce vita im looking at you oh glorious text) but maria, as a character, in her own personal life, and her story, even without the politics, holy fuck, wow. she is great. and yeah she is also the german miracle, and bits of that i’ll have to read about, but at the sheer soap opera level, she is fucking great.

!@#$%! 11.25.2018 01:42 PM

EXCALIBUR (john boorman, 1981)

 


as cheesy and over the top as this here poster, but nevertheless great

one thing about rewatching this after multiple viewings of monty python and the holy grail is that they both merge in my mind and im not sure if a dude is gonna show up clapping with coconuts or if lancelot is gonna say ‘tis but a fleshwound when arthur duels him. but it’s alright, i can tell them apart (sometimes). this adds a good measure of ironic detachment and contributes to the enjoyment.

the loud-ass soundtrack is a match to the nearly absurd declamatory acting style of this film, and it’s awesome. i think this movie was the first time i heard carmina burana.

it’s all very loud and grandiose. tons of clatter.

Severian 11.25.2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
EXCALIBUR (john boorman, 1981)

 


as cheesy and over the top as this here poster, but nevertheless great

one thing about rewatching this after multiple viewings of monty python and the holy grail is that they both merge in my mind and im not sure if a dude is gonna show up clapping with coconuts or if lancelot is gonna say ‘tis but a fleshwound when arthur duels him. but it’s alright, i can tell them apart (sometimes). this adds a good measure of ironic detachment and contributes to the enjoyment.

the loud-ass soundtrack is a match to the nearly absurd declamatory acting style of this film, and it’s awesome. i think this movie was the first time i heard carmina burana.

it’s all very loud and grandiose. tons of clatter.


I liked this too.

This is the one with Patrick Stewart, right?

!@#$%! 11.25.2018 03:28 PM

yes—some of the cast would go big in the 90s. picard is in it, a young liam neeson is in it, hyacinth bucket’s husband is in it, caravaggio is in it, gabriel byrne is in it, and helen mirren in all her glory is in it. wait, not all of her glory but yeah.

the lady of the lake now owns an irish pub in fort lauderdale. fact!

EVOLghost 11.25.2018 04:40 PM

 

h8kurdt 11.27.2018 01:42 PM

 

Paris, Texas

Watched this for the first time on Sunday. There are some films you know you should see but for one reason or other the years go by and you still haven't. This is one of them. Let's just say thank GOD I didn't wait any longer. Such an amazing film.

!@#$%! 11.27.2018 01:43 PM

yeeees! great movie

i like wim wenders in general too. even the cheesy ones.

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wow i actually have not watched his stuff in ages! lots of new stuff. i need a refresh.

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filmstruck ends in 2 days boooo hooooo hoooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh many tears

LifeDistortion 11.27.2018 02:51 PM

Paris, Texas is fantastic.

hairs missing 11.27.2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
filmstruck ends in 2 days boooo hooooo hoooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh many tears



Criterion's launching an independent streaming service in spring 2019. It's basically going to be Filmstruck without most of the TCM stuff:

https://www.criterion.com/current/po...ch-spring-2019

"We hope to be available in both the U.S. and Canada at launch, rolling out to additional territories over time."

!@#$%! 11.27.2018 10:59 PM

yes—thanks!

ive known this for a while, but spring could be anything from february to may... i almost wrote them today to ask, ha ha ha, for a firm date

6 months to may is a very long slog, having already tasted paradise...

to february... i can do one month of netflix trash and one month of hbo to keep me entertained.

beyond that, oh... i might get the DTs... :D

tw2113 11.28.2018 11:05 PM

I don't watch it regularly, but I'll always love Almost Famous.

!@#$%! 11.28.2018 11:32 PM

fassbinderks VERONIKA VOSS (1982)

 


been on a fassbinder roll lately, loving the misery of it all. veronika voss does not disappoint and delivers many glycerin tears oh yes.

this is kinda like sunset boulevard meets sirk on acid. lol “on acid”. what i mean is it’s shot old-school like a 50s movie in grainy black and white except there are weird light effects, reflections, glasses, out of place music, all sorts of effects calling attention to themselves, very brechtian, at the same time that a very tortured melodrama takes place, with frequent narrative jumps. bananas!

fucksakes it was all a great story, and while maria braun seemed more of an allegory of the german miracle i am not sure what this is, except an allegory of fassbinder’s life or something, because... ah, no spoilers.

anyway i hope i get to catch LOLA tomorrow, not sure if filmstruck will still be operational or till what hour, meaning, if it’s the last day of service or if it’s the day of the actual shutdown

fucksakes! this hurts. la puta madre...

if it fails i might watch the blue angel on youtube... appears to be there...

demonrail666 11.29.2018 06:51 PM

 


Halloween II

The sequel to the original, not the reboot. It's no way up to the 1st one but maybe a little too easily overlooked these days. It's not a classic by any means but I certainly prefer it to either of Rob Zombie's films. Weirdly, the tone of this seems closer to Argento than to Carpenter - even though Carpenter produced it.

 

!@#$%! 11.29.2018 06:58 PM

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Argento

 

holy shit! yes!

!@#$%! 11.29.2018 07:00 PM

last day of filmstruck service....

 

!@#$%! 11.30.2018 08:19 AM

managed to catch 2 great ones last night
fassbinder’s LOLA (1981)

 


the 2nd brd movie fassbinder made but really the 3rd one in his scheme, it shoves a red hot poker into the ass of the market ideologies that swept germany in the postwar, and it’s hilarious and sad and hilarious again, as it borrows heavily from the blue angel, the 30s movie with marlene dietrich about a moralistic schoolteacher who falls in love with a cabaret singer (i saw it only as a kid and remember it as sad as fuck, maybe there was some humor in it i missed at the time, planning to rewatch soon).

barbara sukowa (the time machine lady from that 12 monkeys tv show) is GREAT in it, armin mueller-stahl is great in it, udo kier makes a brief appearance, fassbinder’s regulars do a great job, etc., and to appropiate cecil taylor, “sukowa was hot!”.

anyway ,besides the great story, etc., the lights are BANANAS in this film. super-artificial and fantastic. he’ll light 2 characters in the same thing with different color lights, light someone outdoors with i door lights, make lights flicker, etc etc. it’s sometimes obviously a “code” with apparent meanings, but it goes so far it becomes a distancing effect at the same time (for me anyway, i’m like “whoa the lights...” and “hahaha the lights”).

brilliant movie really and im a little sad to miss some of the context (there’s a germany-sweden game on the radio at some point) but im gladder im not a postwar german haaa haaa haaa.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 11.30.2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Halloween II

Weirdly, the tone of this seems closer to Argento than to Carpenter - even though Carpenter produced it.





Wow, honestly - you fuckin' nailed it. I'm not sure why I never even considered that before.

!@#$%! 11.30.2018 08:37 AM

the last one, because it’s better to die laughing, was fassbinder’s SATAN’S BREW [1976]. “satansbraten”. what’s braten. a roast? anyway

 


very fucking funny movie, a raucous satire of literature, and art, and artistic snobbery, of manipulative poets, of fassbinder himself?, of artistic fandom, of money, of ridiculous aesthetic enterprises, of sadomasochism, of abuse, of vampire myths, of the will to power, of fascism of course—the phrase “fascism will triumph” embedded in this movie scribbled by the poet (as it was in lola where esslin types it on his boss’ typewriter.) it has hilarious banter, it has physical comedy like the 3 stooges, and it’s basically just a filmed play, but so good, ha ha ha. absurd, cruel, poignant, absurd again.

 


 


 

demonrail666 11.30.2018 12:03 PM

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Wow, honestly - you fuckin' nailed it. I'm not sure why I never even considered that before.


It only occured to me watching it last night, and even then only when the action transfers to the hospital. The scene where Michael burns the woman in boiling water is a straight lift from Deep Red but even beyond that, the tone is VERY Suspiria, I know Carpenter is a huge Argento fan so, while he didn't direct it, he did write and produce it, so it certainly looks like the references (if that's what they were) were his - although I've never heard him mention them in an interview. He hates the film, apparently. But then he prefers the remake of The Fog to his own original. The guy's a bit weird.

I think I'll re-watch Prince of Darkness tonight, which he's upfront about being almost a straight tribute to Argento.

demonrail666 11.30.2018 12:07 PM

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What's Dierdre Barlow doing in a Fassbinder film?

!@#$%! 11.30.2018 12:11 PM

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What's Dierdre Barlow doing in a Fassbinder film?

haha i dont know that person but this is the petra von kant lady.... margit carstensen? they gave her pimples, giant glasses, and she made stupid faces. quite the deranged fan

eta

heres her in mother kusters goes to heaven

 


and this is satansbraten haaa haaa haaa

 

demonrail666 11.30.2018 08:01 PM

 


Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

This has always been the weak link in the franchise. There's just something fundamentally wrong about it: from the misjudged casting of Tina Turner through the silly child-tribe subplot to the fact you don't see a single car driven in anger till the very end. The fight in Thunderdome itself is pretty cool, and easily the highpoint in the film, but the fact it takes place so early in the movie means everything that happens afterwards (literally beyond Thunderdome) ends up feeling a bit flat. And Max never once getting to drive his V8 Interceptor is obviously the biggest wrong of them all.

 


Master/Blaster were cool, but not V8 Interceptor cool

 

Diesel 11.30.2018 08:52 PM

Baby Driver: Starts off with constant cheerful music (like Soul or summit) being mimed to by cheerful pricks whilst pulling off a dangerous bank heist! 'One last job before getting out' check!. Not only did this films dignity take a hit by starring a pre-Hollywood banished Kevin Spacey but then who turns up to the party? No other than your boy R Kelly.* Turned off after 10 minutes.

*meh

Rob Instigator 12.03.2018 09:23 AM

baby driver gets better. I enjoyed it.

!@#$%! 12.03.2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
 


Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

This has always been the weak link in the franchise. There's just something fundamentally wrong about it: from the misjudged casting of Tina Turner through the silly child-tribe subplot to the fact you don't see a single car driven in anger till the very end. The fight in Thunderdome itself is pretty cool, and easily the highpoint in the film, but the fact it takes place so early in the movie means everything that happens afterwards (literally beyond Thunderdome) ends up feeling a bit flat. And Max never once getting to drive his V8 Interceptor is obviously the biggest wrong of them all.

 


Master/Blaster were cool, but not V8 Interceptor cool

 

i agree with you on “plot”. i think the first one was great, the second one was even better, and thunderdome dropped the ball... HOWEVER

thunderdome has the most iconic and memorable characters. auntie’s look is GREAT. master/blaster is MYTHICAL, more even than rockatansky himself, something primal about that combo. TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES was the catchiest most memorable fucking phrase of the whole franchise until WITNESS ME entered the picture recently (i was just saying it yesterday lolol).

but anyway, yeah, whenever they bring in children a movie usually becomes shit. except maybe for NIGHT OF THE HUNTER, which was awesome. and there may be a couple of others but not many.

Diesel 12.03.2018 11:32 AM

@rob Hmm I dunno man. I mean the opening car chase scene felt dated. Like starsky and hutch dated: narrowly avoiding the glass window being inexplicably carried. Water on the ground to pull phat skids!! John Spencer. Soul. woo yea rok n roll baby.

It all felt a bit happy happy joy joy. Like Ren and Stimpy on acid.

Would it be racist to say this film could've only came from America? Does that make sense? Maybe if I say it could've came from somewhere else as well like France (seeing as they're into parkour and also made van damme movies in the 90's with identical car chases to baby driver) as well then this racism cancels the first racism. Pretty sure that's how it goes - two racism...s make a right (wing - eh?)

The final straw came when the dude turned up trying to look cool but was unironically dressed as a twelve year old!

Rob Instigator 12.03.2018 12:11 PM

I thopught the first 30 mins were stupid then it got better.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.04.2018 06:23 AM


 


It's been quite a while since I've truly enjoyed a film. I've become awfully jaded in my late twenties, and sorta have a "been there, seen that" attitude towards the entire medium.

Malmhaus, or 'Metalhead' has changed that attitude. I haven't been blown away by a movie like this in quite some time. One review referred to the film as "Iron Maiden meets Ingmar Bergman" and I can attest to that assessment.

Malmhaus is a film which centers around a young woman named Hera living on her family farm in Iceland, who witnessed her metalhead brother being scalped alive by a tractor at age 12. The movie focuses on her and her family's individual grieving and coping methods, but mostly Hera's.

Hera clings to her brother's essence by adorning his old clothing, a leather jacket of her own, and eventually corpse paint. She smokes cigarettes in church, works at a slaughterhouse, and goes on drunken escapades on the tractor causing mayhem throughout her local town. Taking after her lost brother, she also has developed a passion for playing metal guitar.


 


Watch as Hera deals with her pain and lashes out by disrupting her entire Icelandic country town. Laugh at the 'normies' who simply don't understand where Hera comes from, and watch her grow as a person. The ending to this movie was possibly the most heartwarming thing I've ever seen.

There's so much more I want to say about this movie, but I don't want to spoil anything. If you get the chance, just watch it. To quote Andy Webster of the NY Times, "It taps into something universal, and very precious, about loss, art and adolescent rebellion."

Shit, you guys. I love metal, and I loved Metalhead.


 


10/10 - no hyperbole

_slavo_ 12.04.2018 06:31 AM

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Shit, you guys. I love metal, and I loved Metalhead.


 


10/10 - no hyperbole


Malmhaus is a fantastic movie. And that last scene with that epic performance, that's something to remember.
10/10 here too

LifeDistortion 12.04.2018 06:28 PM

Have never heard of this but it sounds interesting, just checked Amazon to see if it was there on prime, sadly it wasn't, but thanks for making me aware of it.

Antagon 12.04.2018 06:58 PM

 



First off, this is an absolutely gorgeous movie. The scene composition as well as the models and the lighting: all top-notch. It's also quite funny and does pull at your heartstrings from time to time. Unfortunately, I felt it was probably one of Anderson's least consistent works. Characters were teased as big deals when their plot kind of went nowhere and the way things wrapped up just didn't do much for me. Isle Of Dogs tries to tie a lot of things together and in the end, they only kind of blend. In my opinion, his first stop motion film "The Fantastic Mr. Fox" was a lot more cohesive in that regard. That is not to say I did not enjoy Isle Of Dogs, as I find even the lesser of the Anderson movies very watchable. I just thought I was going to love it, but I ended up merely liking it. There are a lot of individual things to love about it though. Hell, the visuals alone are well worth a watch.


Something between 7 and 7 1/2 out Of 10

Severian 12.04.2018 09:23 PM

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First off, this is an absolutely gorgeous movie. The scene composition as well as the models and the lighting: all top-notch. It's also quite funny and does pull at your heartstrings from time to time. Unfortunately, I felt it was probably one of Anderson's least consistent works. Characters were teased as big deals when their plot kind of went nowhere and the way things wrapped up just didn't do much for me. Isle Of Dogs tries to tie a lot of things together and in the end, they only kind of blend. In my opinion, his first stop motion film "The Fantastic Mr. Fox" was a lot more cohesive in that regard. That is not to say I did not enjoy Isle Of Dogs, as I find even the lesser of the Anderson movies very watchable. I just thought I was going to love it, but I ended up merely liking it. There are a lot of individual things to love about it though. Hell, the visuals alone are well worth a watch.


Something between 7 and 7 1/2 out Of 10



I think I preferred it to Mr. Fox, though I agree the character development could have been better.

The characters were just really lovable, and all the classic Anderson components were there. The stop-motion was better too (MAN some of those sequences look absolutely ANAZING) and I think it’s one of my favorite films of the year.

That said, I’m the kind of Anderson fan who suspects his best work is behind him. I look forward to breaks from the pattern, like Darjheeling Ltd., which added new narrative dimensions to the Anderson “house style.” Oddly, that film is the least favorite among critics, but it pulls the tears for me every time (when “Strangers” by the Kinks plays, or “Play with Fire,” I get down with my classic Irish weepy self).

His best films are Tenenbaums, Bottle Rocket and possibly Grand Budapest, but I’ve only seen that one once so I don’t want to really speak until I digest it more.

But as fun as Isle was, I’ll take a live action Anderson film over the stop-motion any day.

Just hoping he doesn’t stop adding to that world he’s built, but I worry he’s come close.

Severian 12.04.2018 09:26 PM

** Also there was that mild controversy about it being insensitive to Asians, and while it’s not something I think anyone did on purpose, I do think there’s a case to be made that it relies too heavily on stereotypes. But I’m not sure if it was actually offensive or just a little loose with its expressions of cultural reverence (* saw it as an adoration of the culture, not a caricature of it, but I’m not Asian so I can’t really speak to that.)

tw2113 12.06.2018 12:23 AM

Muppets Take Manhattan


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