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pbradley 11.03.2009 03:11 AM

Pitchfork is pretty hip-to-be-squarish, isn't it?

davenotdead 11.03.2009 03:14 AM

what? no. fail.

davenotdead 11.03.2009 03:18 AM

socially conservative, fiscally conservative, blue-collar, family-oriented, traditional, pro-life. this is the new hip. embrace it

pbradley 11.03.2009 03:18 AM

Maybe it's just ironic hip-to-be-square.

But isn't all hip-to-be-squareness essentially ironic?

pbradley 11.03.2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davenotdead
socially conservative, fiscally conservative, blue-collar, family-oriented, traditional, pro-life. this is the new hip. embrace it

I'd rather be square.

davenotdead 11.03.2009 03:19 AM

not surprised.

being hip isn't easy, otherwise everyone would choose it.

pbradley 11.03.2009 03:22 AM

Hope you don't mind me calling you hipster, then, hipster being so fucking hip.

davenotdead 11.03.2009 03:25 AM

sure. i've earned my stripes

pbradley 11.03.2009 03:29 AM

 


Bringing it back, y'all.

Satan 11.03.2009 04:14 AM

oh.my.god.you.people.



everyone should be allowed to do wtf they want and that includes getting married. if you wanna, great, if not, great, who cares, whatever, dont sit here and hate on people who do.

TOLERANCE.
it goes both ways guys.

atsonicpark 11.03.2009 04:45 AM

 

pbradley 11.03.2009 04:48 AM

As with many such debates, the issue of confrontation lies within confusion over the meaning of "marriage." I believe notyourfiend was criticizing the genealogy of marriage as a socio-economic institution, as per her typical Foucauldian vantage.

However, in rebuttal, marriage should not be solely defined by its social and legal expression. To interpret girlgun, marriage is legitimized by being a practice that precedes social norms and legal privileges. In essence, a couple joined in marriage are so in virtue of being joined above all else. To them, marriage as an institution is secondary.

terriblecanyons 11.03.2009 04:57 AM

LOLLLLOOLO NEG REP ROFL XD


sheesh.

phoenix 11.03.2009 06:05 AM

From my side of the ocean it appears to me that notyrfiend is more against the formal 'procedure' and therefore rocognised ecconomic benefits/restrictions/allowances that come with being married, because it is descriminatory and not something which is available to ALL types of couples.. rather than being against the idea of people who choose to make a life commitment to someone...



just sayin.

phoenix 11.03.2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley

However, in rebuttal, marriage should not be solely defined by its social and legal expression. To interpret girlgun, marriage is legitimized by being a practice that precedes social norms and legal privileges. In essence, a couple joined in marriage are so in virtue of being joined above all else. To them, marriage as an institution is secondary.



no but that is the point, it isn't available to all couple's who would like to partake in it, and so it is and can be extremely descriminatory legally financially etc..

Satan 11.03.2009 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix
From my side of the ocean it appears to me that notyrfiend is more against the formal 'procedure' and therefore rocognised ecconomic benefits/restrictions/allowances that come with being married, because it is descriminatory and not something which is available to ALL types of couples.. rather than being against the idea of people who choose to make a life commitment to someone...



just sayin.

yes and i agree with this. it's people getting all radical about it that i can't deal with.

gays should be able to get married with the same benefits as straight people. or perhaps the whole system should be done away with and marriage should be about love.

phoenix 11.03.2009 06:14 AM

When I was getting government benefits as a student a couple of years ago, I had to fill out a few forms regarding my financial status, living arangements, etc.

One section basically read:

"Do you live with(spend more than 3 days a week) someone of the opposite sex? If yes, what is their yearly income? "


It didn't matter HOW MANY women/same sex people I might be living with, and what they were earning. To the govt, those details are irrelevant. Yet I am judged on the assumption that I may be in a supportive relationship with someone just because they are of the opposite sex. Because same sex relationships aren't legally recognised, they DONT MATTER.

It is ridiculous.

phoenix 11.03.2009 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan
yes and i agree with this. it's people getting all radical about it that i can't deal with.


in what way?

Satan 11.03.2009 06:16 AM

it's rude and often intolerant shitspewing

like i said, it goes both ways.




this is like talking about abortion.

phoenix 11.03.2009 06:19 AM

I don't care if people want to get married/not. I do care how unfair it is that some people who wish to, cannot. They are different discussions. imho.

lol abortion.


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