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Genteel Death 02.06.2010 09:15 AM

Ok, maybe her records could loosely be compared to Eno's work with David Byrne on ''My Life in The Bush...'', but surely the beats were more Byrne's making than Eno's?

_slavo_ 02.06.2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Also, I don't get how Inca Ore, Zola Jesus or Grouper are compared to her apart from the obvious female component. Meg has a rhythmic sensibility that those three can only dream of. Often her songs remind me of what would happen if an African tribe took the best acid and partied in some hidden corner of outer space. That fucking good.


you are right. there's something magical about her music. I'm listening to "Go Grey" right now and absolutely love it. Gonna order a copy right away.

Genteel Death 02.06.2010 09:27 AM

Slavo, you'd be glad to know that I'm making her a CD of Philip Jeck's music because I was telling her how her music vaguely reminds me of certain moments of his. Probably it's just their brilliant use of a super economical set-up to create dusty sounds.

_slavo_ 02.06.2010 09:32 AM

that's nice, you're in contact with her? tell her i love her.

Genteel Death 02.06.2010 09:43 AM

I chatted to her before she played last year. She came over to say hello while I was standing outside smoking. I promised her that I would up some Jeck for her, which I did through her myspace, and never got a reply, until the other day I noticed on her page that she only replies to emails sent to another address. Silly me.

Genteel Death 02.06.2010 09:51 AM

You're really tempting me to download the record, but I am too much of a devotee of hers to ruin the sacred ritual of getting it out of its sleeve and keep it special.

_slavo_ 02.06.2010 09:56 AM

do as you please, let me just tell you that it's the best one of all her efforts.

Genteel Death 02.06.2010 10:09 AM

AMEN

Genteel Death 02.07.2010 04:00 PM

Glice, if you still listen to anything apart from Avril Lavigne or shit like that, download ''Turnaround Time'', and argue with me about its spectral qualities.

SYRFox 02.07.2010 06:48 PM

The new Four Tet is mindblowing

Glice 02.07.2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Glice, if you still listen to anything apart from Avril Lavigne or shit like that, download ''Turnaround Time'', and argue with me about its spectral qualities.


I had a look at her myspazz. I was assuming you meant 'spectral' as in spectralism, as in Murail/ Grisey et al. You didn't. Which is a shame. But then, spectralism is kind of dead.

I didn't really dig it from the myspazz. It's alright, she's doing really good things with massively murky production, but I'm not in a rush to hear it again.

I'm currently puzzling over a Mattias Pintscher CD. Not 2010, but definitely good.

Genteel Death 02.07.2010 07:56 PM

If you'd bump into me on the street right now, you couldn't tell the difference between what I was going to post and a ghost.

atsonicpark 02.09.2010 08:44 PM

overstep'd

DJ Rick 02.12.2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Also, I don't get how Inca Ore, Zola Jesus or Grouper are compared to her apart from the obvious female component. Meg has a rhythmic sensibility that those three can only dream of. Often her songs remind me of what would happen if an African tribe took the best acid and partied in some hidden corner of outer space. That fucking good.


This explains some of why US Girls and Inca Ore get compared to each other. It's the story of how their beginnings as solo artists are related. Those ladies were tight friends when they lived in Portland and inspired each other.
http://artforspastics.blogspot.com/2...la-safari.html

jimbrim 02.12.2010 03:07 PM

i bought the new US Girls record today, i'm really enjoying it.

atsonicpark 02.13.2010 07:52 AM

I've listened to Oversteps 4 times and while it's quite admirable in its further deconstruction of electronic music, I think it's a bit of a synth overkill, overall. While Autechre probably intended even its diehard fans to look closer -- look beyond the beats -- the thing is, the best songs on Oversteps are the more beat-driven ones. It's a very curious album, and I absolutely love it in theory, but a lot of the more, um.. not sure what the word is here.. not ambient.. just more.. synth-driven/beat-less songs don't really do much for me. They're nice enough, especially if you REALLY listen to them (which is something you need to do with all Autechre; REALLY pay attenton, don't treat it as background music), I just think the main problem is that they're overshadowed by the more beat-driven works, especially the second track on this album...

I think the big problem with this album's synth-only tracks is the synth tones themselves, which don't do anything for me (which is probably the point; theyre supposed to be cold, the exact opposite of the warmth associated with most ambient music)... also, the, um, "songwriting" on SOME of these tracks honestly sounds like someone going into Fruity Loops and hitting "randomize". Just a bunch of melody-less note sequences. Again, I get the deconstruction, and I find the whole thing fascinating, and I GUESS it works as an album (especially the first half), but it just kinda makes me impatient for the more beat-driven songs. Definitely a fascinating album, and I am not going to dismiss an Autechre album after 4 listens (only after about 30 did I LOVE Quaristice), but I definitely think, aside from a few brilliant tracks, it's their worst album, overall. Still like it quite a bit though.

Glice 02.13.2010 09:13 AM

You used the word 'deconstruction' twice in that post - a word that irritates me so much in its abuse that I'm downloading the album in a fit of pique.

Glice 02.13.2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I've listened to Oversteps 4 times and while it's quite admirable in its further deconstruction of electronic music, I think it's a bit of a synth overkill, overall. While Autechre probably intended even its diehard fans to look closer -- look beyond the beats -- the thing is, the best songs on Oversteps are the more beat-driven ones. It's a very curious album, and I absolutely love it in theory, but a lot of the more, um.. not sure what the word is here.. not ambient.. just more.. synth-driven/beat-less songs don't really do much for me. They're nice enough, especially if you REALLY listen to them (which is something you need to do with all Autechre; REALLY pay attenton, don't treat it as background music), I just think the main problem is that they're overshadowed by the more beat-driven works, especially the second track on this album...

I think the big problem with this album's synth-only tracks is the synth tones themselves, which don't do anything for me (which is probably the point; theyre supposed to be cold, the exact opposite of the warmth associated with most ambient music)... also, the, um, "songwriting" on SOME of these tracks honestly sounds like someone going into Fruity Loops and hitting "randomize". Just a bunch of melody-less note sequences. Again, I get the deconstruction, and I find the whole thing fascinating, and I GUESS it works as an album (especially the first half), but it just kinda makes me impatient for the more beat-driven songs. Definitely a fascinating album, and I am not going to dismiss an Autechre album after 4 listens (only after about 30 did I LOVE Quaristice), but I definitely think, aside from a few brilliant tracks, it's their worst album, overall. Still like it quite a bit though.


Right, I've listened to it ONCE and I'd be surprised if I listened to it again.

The beats are Autechre by numbers, although they've finally got the hang of putting the odd cod-jazz rhythm in there. The problem with the beats is that they're a bit more regular than more recent albums. On the one hand, this means I don't find them massively frustrating for pissing about with 'oh-so-clever' glitches [yawn]; on the other hand, it does mean that it sounds a bit 99. I'm clearly over-saturated with dubstep, but this sounds really weak in 2010.

If 'deconstruction' means pushing the perimeters of what's acceptable within a genre, then, well, this isn't it. The beats are really regular. What they do do really, really well on this album is the non-beat-driven tracks - on the first track, there's this really meticulous, painstaking attention to the attack sound, the decay of a note, the placement of the high sine tones. Also, the fake cello sound is really, really sweet. As usual with Autechre, the other tracks have the beats far too far forward - there are some absolutely gorgeous sounds on st epreo that are largely buried underneath quite a pedestrian beat.

The last track does something really quite smart with a fake cadence around 3:30. It's almost like they've listened to Sibelius. Which they probably have, come to think of it. Again, a really meticulous attention to dEQtail on the synths.

That fruitloops comment - I can only assume that's coming from os veix3. Which has a synth gamelan floating about in a sort of Herbie Hancock way. It's probably the most unconventional thing on the album, melody-wise, but it's hardly something that would throw someone like yourself off. I'm surprised.

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atsonicpark 02.13.2010 06:58 PM

All I'm saying is, I need to get on this fruity loops randomized bitcrushed fruitygranulizer.dll with 6 point hermite pitch shifted reverb trail artifacts racket business...

Untilted forever.

Glice 02.13.2010 08:42 PM

Just, y'know, stop listening to so much music. And figure out how to listen a bit better. That's all I'm saying.


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