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porkmarras 08.28.2006 11:42 AM

haha.Let me think,she mentioned some hideous ones.

porkmarras 08.28.2006 02:02 PM

Do you know what toilet?I don't remember.I shall ask her tomorrow if i see her.

Iain 08.28.2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Oh Porky, what did I just say?

Am I the only person here who grew up on a council estate? Wait a minute...Sonic Youth discussion board...mmm...of course I fucking am.

Go on admit it, you're a bunch of snobs aren't you? I bet most of you went to art college and eat pesto.


No you're not....not really. I grew up largely on a council estate in mid-wales. Although being mid wales it wasn't really that rough or anything. A fair share of bratty kids running around the place but not really getting up to much more than youthful hi-jinks or a bit of tomfoolery. But I also spent my early years (up to age 7) in a nice apartment in Hong Kong where my dad had the uber-middleclass job of University lecturer. So I don't really know whether to consider myself working or middle class. I don't really feel right labeling myself either.

Toilet & Bowels 08.28.2006 07:27 PM

Who is the most upper/middle class member of this board then?
I can't be the only ex-public schoolboy here, can I?
Hands up who isn't an oik!

Cantankerous 08.28.2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
12 years and counting.

do you have an italian accent?


i don't properly understand what a chav actually is, i have been informed that they all drink stella artois but i'm still quite a confuzzled sea lion.

Toilet & Bowels 08.28.2006 10:27 PM

they're kind of like white trash, but with a more particular dresscode

Cantankerous 08.28.2006 10:29 PM

so they're like white trash in burberry instead of this:

 

 

Toilet & Bowels 08.28.2006 10:32 PM

yeah, and if you don't wear the same clothes as them they'll probably try and start a fight with you.

Cantankerous 08.28.2006 10:36 PM

ew, really?

Toilet & Bowels 08.28.2006 10:38 PM

yep. that's basically the chav philosophy.

Lurker 08.29.2006 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
do you have an italian accent?


i don't properly understand what a chav actually is, i have been informed that they all drink stella artois but i'm still quite a confuzzled sea lion.


They wear burberry and sports clothes, listen to hip hop and rnb, they're violent including the female ones, they're all complete sluts, every third word they say is 'fuck' or 'cunt', they stand around in parks passing round a bottle of cider, they all smoke, they all binge drink, they all take drugs, they're completely retarded, what else...... just read Porkmarras' thing on neds, they're basically the same thing.

Thomas Moronic 08.29.2006 12:39 PM

I'm glad you raised this Pookie.

The "chav" thing is ridiculous. It's become (wrongly, in my view) an acceptable way for people mock others. Generally it seems to be a fairly middle class thing, a way to make fun of those less well off than themselves. All snobbery sucks.

The thing that annoys me most, is that generally, on the occasions I've heard people using the term "chav" as an insult towards others it seems to stem from people who would usually go mad if someone were to insult or label them in a similar fashion. Hypocrites.

Glice 08.29.2006 12:48 PM

CHaaaaaav.

It really lacks more consonants as a word.

I'm working class, but I often get called a posh twat because I'm incredibly intelligent and well spoken. Well, the men say I'm a posh twat. The girls just call me, "Him with the massive wang". Such is my Mafiosa-esque power.

doctor dan 08.29.2006 01:07 PM

a lot of this debate is ridiculously reactionary, and stems from a slight misunderstanding of the meaning of the word. coming from nottingham, "assassination city", ive had ample experience in dealing with them. Contrary to popular belief, it has NOTHING to do with class. I grew up in a really middle class area of the town, so i hold no pretentions to the idea of being a part of the working class. However, i can tell you that there are just as many chavs, or as we call them "skally cunts" from middle class and upper middle class backgrounds as there are from working class. its a style of dress and music and attitude, not a social division. To accuse someone of being a snob because they get fed up loud twats yelling insults at them from across the street is stupid, as just as many of those twats are form middle and upper middle class backgrounds. Its got nothing to do with class.

static-harmony 08.29.2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Who is the most upper/middle class member of this board then?
I can't be the only ex-public schoolboy here, can I?
Hands up who isn't an oik!



Don't worry I went to public school and had free lunch, so I do come from a working class family.

Toilet & Bowels 08.29.2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
Don't worry I went to public school and had free lunch, so I do come from a working class family.


public school in england means private fee paying school.

static-harmony 08.29.2006 02:03 PM

okay

porkmarras 08.29.2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctor dan
a lot of this debate is ridiculously reactionary, and stems from a slight misunderstanding of the meaning of the word. coming from nottingham, "assassination city", ive had ample experience in dealing with them. Contrary to popular belief, it has NOTHING to do with class. I grew up in a really middle class area of the town, so i hold no pretentions to the idea of being a part of the working class. However, i can tell you that there are just as many chavs, or as we call them "skally cunts" from middle class and upper middle class backgrounds as there are from working class. its a style of dress and music and attitude, not a social division. To accuse someone of being a snob because they get fed up loud twats yelling insults at them from across the street is stupid, as just as many of those twats are form middle and upper middle class backgrounds. Its got nothing to do with class.


They are called chavvers wich is the equivalent of wiggers in chav terms.Disqualified.

static-harmony 08.29.2006 02:05 PM

I kind of find them funny those Wiggers or whatever they are called. Especially when they start acting tough. They should come to my neighborhood and they would not last.

doctor dan 08.29.2006 02:44 PM

no, chavvers isnt a real word. half the chavs ive ever met have come from comfortable backgrounds. it may have once originated as a working class style, but spread from solely that grouping ages ago.


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