I don't know... I mean, yes, we're dad aged. Easy. I'm several years older than my parents were when they had me. But I still think of Springsteen and The Eagles when I think of dad rock.

Radiohead just doesn't sound like the dreaded "DR" to me. Few of the bands from my formative years feel like they could hold that title. Pearl Jam is one major, major exception. Everything about them screams dad rock and has since about 1996.

My own father barely considers Radiohead music. Which is kind of weird because he's a Beatles guy, and if "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" is music, surely just about anything is. I love that song, but it's just so weird, even compared to today's most experimental pop.

Coldplay is definitely dad rock. I don't think there's a "kid" on the planet who really loves that band.

That is because you are thinking of YOUR dad but haven't processed that we are not merely as old as our parents were when we were born, but many of us are as old as our parents were when we were in HIGH SCHOOL!!

Radiohead first album came out over 20 years ago..

Dad Rock is apt.

it works pretty well as is. the song provides a feeling of relief, breathing easy. a sigh of relief. any additional activity would only clutter it up and disrupt the feeling of ease going on there. diff'rent strokes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XithTcxKqBE

Not horrid recording of the Amsterdam show. Only a few songs in though. Burn the Witch gets going decently enough, but holy crap did it start off pretty horrid.

Ful Stop is not in this recording unfortunately. In searching, I found that they actually played it several times during 2012 tour. I had not seen any performances of it yet, and I have to say, I certainly do not like the live versions from 2012. I certainly hope it has matured live for this tour. I am sure we'll see soon enough.

My sentiments exactly. As much as its clear Severian likes this record I'm not as sure that he "gets it" yet

Not sure if I should be offended or not.

But maybe I don't get it. Cause while I like it as a whole, parts of it just sound like bleh to me.

Shouldn't be it was an honest reflection not a diss
My personal interpretation of this record is it is meant to be listened to as a composition and the differences between the songs are intentionally trying to set a mood. It all feels even more calculated than usual even for a radiohead album.

I have listened to it every morning on Metro on way to work since i got it and more and more i am convincedthe songs only work in the context of each other. I personally don't enjoy them half as much at random or even just mixed out of original ttack list

Yes that is precisely my point here ;)

This is how I feel about all Radiohead records though. I don't think any of them are perfect, from start to finish. Even Kid A and HTTT, where I genuinely like all the songs, don't feel like perfect albums to me. I'm a chronic Radiohead album skipper-arounder.

My list will also be topped by Street Spirit, for the same reason as with you. I was 15 when I first heard that song - 20 years ago, fuck.

Anyway:

1. Street Spirit
2. Permanent Daylight
3. Maquiladora
4. Lurgee
5. Blow Out
6. Pyramid Song
7. Airbag
8. Everything In It’s Right Place
9. Lozenge of Love
10. How To Disappear Completely

yep! I love dad rock. dad rock is cool but maybe dad rock with existential probs is not. you must learn the art of floating before yr 32. otherwise you'll still be begging people for money on a message board. after you've learnt the art you can clown as much as you can.

So, is Sonic Youth Dad Rock?

I don't know why I keep punishing myself by reading this thread.

With how old the kiddies are today if we're talking sonic death era sonic youth we're talking grandpa rock

Sonic Youth can never be dad rock. Is the Velvet Uderground "dad rock?" What about Can? No. Nobody who isn't awesome could ever appreciate Sonic Youth.

Dad rock refers to music that's bland and tame and really easy to listen to. Played by white dudes. Coldplay, U2, Pearl Jam... all of these bands are "dad rock" for dads of various ages and levels of lameness.

Do some dads listen to Sonic Youth? Certainly. I'm sure some grandfathers do. But they're badass dads and grandpas. Like the members of SY themselves.

No, Sonic Youth is not dad rock or any other kind of "rock." Age has less to do with it than the music itself. Frank Zappa will never be "dad rock," no matter how many dads listen to it.

The Eagles, on the other hand, were dad rock before they even started. Lame, basic, and to use p-green's word, "vanilla" as all fuck.

Just because we're old doesn't mean we have to be lame asses.

In my humble opinion, this thread begs to differ.

Ok, what the deal is Skuj? You got a problem with something I've said? Something SFAD's said? Something Louder's said? Or are you just pissed at the framers and creepy gentry?

A thread is only as good as you make it. So let's hear your gripe, then you can contribute a bit for the love of Christ. ;)

Wow. Radiohead albums in general normally have one decent song on there but this new one has at least double that.

Real.

The very fact that you typed like 500+ words counters your argument. In other words you're in denial

I dunno...I knew a Dad that listen to Zappa...But dood also listened to Pixies.

Are Pixies Dad rock yet?

And yeah....some of PJ's catalog can be considered Dad rock(especially everything released AFTER Riot Act), but I don't give a fuck. Brain of J will never be considered Dad rock.

all rock is dad rock when you're a dad. and everyone in this thread is actin' like a big fuckin' dad no matter if they have kids or not. all the bands mentioned are old and noone young cares about them. rock is a gerontocracy like most other things. rock music will be looked back upon with the same enthusiasm we look at ancient boring folk songs. it's torture and you're all old and you know it. give up the ghost and do something responsible you fuckin' dadz.

radiohead are all dads or wannabe dads for mother gaia and thom yorke keeps getting up in the middle of the night to pee and thumb through his old copy of no logo from 1999 that's been sitting next to his medication cabinet gathering dust since he bought it. he is animated only by concerns for his lawn and the vague idea of doing something cool in a leather jacket on the bbc once but he can't remember what and is too embarrassed to ask his personal assistant in case it's a proto alzhiemic hallucination and not an actual memory.

johnathon grenwood the 3rd is only capable of mustering enthusiasm for buying new shirts in top shop which he's been doing for almost 30 years. it started as an attempt to look like thurston and signal that he was cooler than the standard alt guitar wank he really was but didn't realize that dressing like thurston is exactly what loser mainstream alts did because they didn't realize how mainstream thurston actually is. being all fey and experimental got him this far and shitty wes anderson movies will get him through another few years until the lanky fuck eventually disintegrates into plastic wire hangers in a box in top shop and everyone including the spouse and kids he may or may not have instantly forgets he ever exists.

the other guy got lost in b&q and ended up a member of staff there.

i think that's all the members of radiohead except matt bellamay. anyway, who even cares?

real dads do things like earn money and raise kids but you guys are just sad dadz and there was a whole simpons episode detailing what has become of you you fat jamaican narcs.

ignore me i'm just trying to get severian to go another 20 pages to see what happens to his brain

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oh shit i hit 2k without realizin it. well this is as good a way to go out as any. bye y'all!

yes

Man I saw Pixies live like 1 or 2 years ago and they SUCKED.. sucked sucked sucked.

Ha! I know right. it's like "im I still relevant, who am I, is margarine imitation, do black holes really exits, are cats feline"?

im on this guys side. this is far more unintentionally unfunny but true than it should be.

anything that's played on guitars is dad rock now. i lernt tdis in 2005. dead_battery did too, that's why he reads books only now and occasionally listens to post post post no-wave bands.

you so sure about that? the Stones played in slightly out-of-tune tunings through tube amps.

people still dig them. so it doesn't matter. goddamn!!, it's just music. someone will enjoy it. carry on, unless yr a popist.

who cares. I have an headache.:( black holes and stuff.

Yeah, that's a great song and I always forget about it.

The term "dad rock" has nothing to do with fathers. It's just an analogy. "Dad rock" bands are like bands who've given up on being Dangerous or independent, and have totally given themselves over to comfort and stability.

... it's a bad rap for dads, really.

But make no mistake, "dad rock" is a real and horrible thing. It makes lives boring and predictable, because it is boring and predictable.

The music has to be boring, inoffensive and predictable in order to be "dad rock." Sonic Youth is not dad rock. Never can be, never will be.

The Pixies, like Pearl Jam, have allowed themselves to become dad rock, but there's no way in goddamn hell Come on Pilgrim, Surfer Rosa or Doolittle could ever be considered boring and predictable and safe.

Remember Red Hot Chili Peppers circa "Scar Tissue"? Dad rock, baby. That's fucking dad. ass. rock.

We all know what we're talking about here. Let's stop fucking around and cut the shitshow.

Yes I'm sure, and "slightly out of tune" does not equal "Sonic Youth tunings."

^^ I agree. I was trying to be post post animal collective post modern.

I want to meet you in person so bad. I want to see how you actually speak.

slightly good-looking, articulate but slurring.:rolleyes:

one thing though. I have this OCD hipster thing so my socks are always miss matched and stink.

hey man, free jazz is stacked shit. imagine if ancient Egyptian music was recorded? we be funking and doing the forward rogger rabbit or Snoop Dogg 'for the undanceable or uninitiated'...... until a time machine..... I guess we got the Yiddish funked afied boogaloo.

disco disco. funking until higher consciousness.

semi serious talkey: PJ became dad rock when they formed. the Pixies became dad rock after they dropped Kim and reformed yeeeaaars later.

See now I feel like you're laying it on a little thick. But still, I have a strong urge to witness words coming out of your mouth. Call it a scientific interest. I have three theories about you, and I'd like to research them.

1. You're a totally normal guy who deliberately fucks with people.
2. You're a night drunk with a high IQ that's stunted by alcohol (which is how you present yourself)
3. You're a high functioning schizophrenic.

Part of me wants to know. Another part of me just wants to be along for the ride.

Top 10 Radioheads:

1. Kid Aphex Twin
2. Moon Safari
3. Fake plastic trees aka Pavement circa 92'
4. Mar E Smith was wrong about Pavement
5. Sonic Youth rip-off song
6. 20 Lambert and a bottle of white lightening daydreaming....nation please
7. Condescending orchestral crescendos FTW!
8. Flea
9. Ukip and Donald
10. Beck

But...but...I thought it was?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc

Nice list.