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keep poppin pimples 01.13.2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox
Listening to ANTI WAR DUB by them Digital Mystikz makes me xoxoxo my soul.



mystikz is pretty much the best ever music

atsonicpark 01.13.2011 10:14 PM

stuff I listened to a bunch lately (not all is dubstep but quite a bit of it is and there really aren't any other dedicated electronic threads on here to post this to):

new ikonika
girl unit - wut?
tensnake - coma cat
terror danjah - undeniable
james blake - cmyk
optimum - max power
skudge - convolution
black dog - music for real airports
conforce - grace
actress - splazsh

A lot of that is dub/post-dubstep type stuff, really awesome.

Also been listening to Esoteric and Curley a lot, both are awesome epic techno with lots of changes. And the new Calibre, Even If, is one of the best d'n'b albums I've heard in forever.

SYRFox 01.14.2011 01:19 AM

adam, have you checked the night slugs compilation ? i think about it because there's both girl unit and optimum in your list. it might well be my record of 2010. nothing on there is less than excellent

atsonicpark 01.14.2011 01:31 AM

ohh, I got some other night slugs stuff that kills (Mosca's SQUARE ONE was on constant play a few months back), but haven't heard that comp. Getting it right now, you've been dead-on with your reccomendations so I pretty much always stop everything to check out whatever you throw my way.. Really appreciate it, dude.

Hey foix, I've asked before, but where do you find your music?! I check out RESIDENT ADVISOR about once a month, I don't always agree with their reviews, the actual opinions expressed in them, but their reviews are well written and articulate enough to at least describe the stuff I'm going to hear. So I check them out just to see if there's anything interesting.

BTW, this terror danjah album "undeniable" strikes again, as far as "albums with vocals" go. I really really really don't like just about any of the vocals on the album (lots of poor rapping, like The Streets but even more arhythmic and downright boring), but the MUSIC is so goddamned brilliant. Vocals only take up about 18 minutes of the album, but the vocal songs are the longest on the album. I just flat-out don't understand why these brilliant musicians feel the need to get every random rapper they're friends with, awkwardly and arhythmically "rap" over top of their brilliant compositions. There are plenty of inventive and interesting things a good producer can do with vocals; hell, take a few lines out and make 'em a hook, have 'em repeat a bunch, fuck with them until they're unrecognizable... you could make a guy's vocals so chopped up and insane that it matches the beat perfectly... "yo yo yo hello hello got multiple tongues so you don't know where to look this ain't no 4/4 don't listen for da hook yo" you know? But instead of it going from there, cut up the yo yos and make em wonky as fukk, have the "4/4" line cleverly stutter on an actual 4/4 beat and then break apart, maybe overdub yourself going "5/4" and then "7/4" as the music breaks apart. I dunno, I get little ideas all the time of weird shit to do, I just don't understand how music can be so intelligent and intricate but then you got some guy performing vocal disarhea on the mic.

Anyway thanks for the reccomends, FXXXX!

atsonicpark 01.14.2011 01:33 AM

fuck yeah, getting night slugs all stars vol 1 right now and it kicks off RIGHT AWAY with square one, FUCK YEAH!

SYRFox 01.14.2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
ohh, I got some other night slugs stuff that kills (Mosca's SQUARE ONE was on constant play a few months back), but haven't heard that comp. Getting it right now, you've been dead-on with your reccomendations so I pretty much always stop everything to check out whatever you throw my way.. Really appreciate it, dude.

you're welcome ! i hope you'll like it. some of those synths as cheap as fuck but just irresistible. when the beat drops on lil silva's golds 2 get i'm always spastic. and kingdom's bust broke fucking slay. and wut obviously. and jacques greene's track is just excellent. egyptrixx delivers. not to talk about l-vis 1990. simply perfect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Hey foix, I've asked before, but where do you find your music?! I check out RESIDENT ADVISOR about once a month, I don't always agree with their reviews, the actual opinions expressed in them, but their reviews are well written and articulate enough to at least describe the stuff I'm going to hear. So I check them out just to see if there's anything interesting.

i find it pretty much everywhere. resident advisor is definitely a source, though i do not necessarily agree with their reviews either, i'll just check the names that sound interesting to me. last.fm is still my main source for music obviously. dubstepforum is also a good point... as well as xlr8r. podcasts and mixes are obviously a good way to find about new artists.

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
BTW, this terror danjah album "undeniable" strikes again, as far as "albums with vocals" go. I really really really don't like just about any of the vocals on the album (lots of poor rapping, like The Streets but even more arhythmic and downright boring), but the MUSIC is so goddamned brilliant. Vocals only take up about 18 minutes of the album, but the vocal songs are the longest on the album. I just flat-out don't understand why these brilliant musicians feel the need to get every random rapper they're friends with, awkwardly and arhythmically "rap" over top of their brilliant compositions. There are plenty of inventive and interesting things a good producer can do with vocals; hell, take a few lines out and make 'em a hook, have 'em repeat a bunch, fuck with them until they're unrecognizable... you could make a guy's vocals so chopped up and insane that it matches the beat perfectly... "yo yo yo hello hello got multiple tongues so you don't know where to look this ain't no 4/4 don't listen for da hook yo" you know? But instead of it going from there, cut up the yo yos and make em wonky as fukk, have the "4/4" line cleverly stutter on an actual 4/4 beat and then break apart, maybe overdub yourself going "5/4" and then "7/4" as the music breaks apart. I dunno, I get little ideas all the time of weird shit to do, I just don't understand how music can be so intelligent and intricate but then you got some guy performing vocal disarhea on the mic.

Anyway thanks for the reccomends, FXXXX!

hmm, i don't know, i'm into some of the vocal tracks on that lp - though "story ending" for instance is abysmal -, but then again i have no problem with rapping over the tracks in general so that might explain it. and the best track on the album is definitely s.o.s. which is 8 minutes of pure instrumental bliss. but the vocals could have been done better, that's for sure. now terror danjah has always been a force in grime, so i guess it makes sense for him to include a few mcs in his tracks...
now that, for instance, is a fucking great track with mcs imo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoTkDUcL3dI
the way the rap kicks in along with the drop just kills me eveytime. frenetic, hypnotic, violent. it just makes the song even greater, it does not feel like some useless addition to the track

in another style : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgmrnhU7RpQ fucking kills me as well anytime (though the track was initially centered around the vocal so i guess it makes sense).

personally, i feel vocals can either work or not... but i'm not against a grime mc spitting all over the track.

SYRFox 01.14.2011 02:11 PM

now in other electronic music news, this is my latest addiction :

Maya Jane Coles - What They Say

fucking excellent house track. gotta love those vocal samples throughout the track. she's got a nice dubstep project, nocturnal sunshine, as well with a track out that was played in scuba's podcast for resident advisor a while ago...

Derek 01.14.2011 05:22 PM

SYRFox, what was that track you showed me one time that had this insane, cool bass wobble after I noted that I hated them?

SYRFox 01.14.2011 05:46 PM

Could it be Goblin by Coki by any chance ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cWgvo6TtZQ

Other mindblowing wobblers amongst loads of them :

King Cannibal - Aragami Style (this one is REALLY insane. your brain will melt at 1:30)
Zomby - Euphoria (of course...)
Kromestar - Kalawanji
Truth - Legion (you can almost feel the space between the notes in this one. incredible stuff)

Derek 01.14.2011 06:38 PM

Yeah it was that. Thank you!

atsonicpark 01.15.2011 03:00 PM

fuck yeah great wobble!

and yeah fox it's just that the terror danjah album is one of my favorites, instrumentally, ever, so the vocals just throw me for a loop. not in a good way either.

fox thanks for reccomending so much great shit -- i discovered more awesome muzak in 2010 from you than anywhere/anyone else (derek is someone else i discovered a lot from, and then glice). keep 'em comin man.

atsonicpark 01.15.2011 03:05 PM

I got something really badass on soulseek called 100 GRIME AND DUBSTEP INSTRUMENTALS, it's a 5 cd set.

btw, fuck yeah on that kromestar stuff. also yeah scuba is AMAZING, scuba is my favorite dubstep artist I think, scuba zomby and ikonika are basically the 3 I reccomend to everyone. TRIANGULATION.. can't do much better than that album imo.

but yeah, IKONIKA never fails to blow me away, this new ep is AWESOME. Might be my favorite Ikonika song. 2011 already starting out awesome for her. Please listen:

Ikonika - Aqueous Cream ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2CSzuUqZiI

hey fox ever see DUBFILES? i got 2 dubstep docs a while back and can't remember the name of the other one, but dubfiles was pretty comprehensive/insane, it was like 2 1/2 hours long if I remember correctly. was kind of a mess, there was just SO MUCH to take in, but it was great for the most part.

nicfit 01.15.2011 03:12 PM

dunno if this qualifies as dubstep, and not sure it's a "new" link, but listen loud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRrjGO5V5go

SpaceCadetHayden 01.15.2011 04:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czaY6...eature=related

This has been my favorite track for the last year or so. Caspa and Rusko - Louder. I had a great night on some pills and this song kicked in at my peak, it was close to a religious experience. Since then, I can't get enough of this song.

Ikonika's Aqueous Cream is fantastic, Adam! She's my favorite new artist of the last 5 years. I love that she says she can't even play music. 'i just hit the keys until it sounds good'. I wouldn't believe it.

atsonicpark 01.15.2011 04:53 PM

absolutely, she's probably my favorite new electronic artist as well (autechre is my favorite, still, my favorite of all time definitely -- move of ten was pretty underrated, honestly, I think people still hadn't wraped their head around oversteps, and probably won't for a while, before they dropped move of ten which was infinitely better in every way). that new song rules. I bet I've listened to it 500 times in the past 3 days man. It's the lead single for her new label HUM AND BUZZ. I have a good feeling that her new label will kick all kinds of ass. also, what a lead single, eh? she released it like 3 days into 2011. So, I have a feeling 2011 will be a big year for her, just like 2010 was.

Also, this "doesn't know how to play music" thing has gotta be a put-on, at least to an extent. I guess I don't really know how to play music, either (and don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing myself to the melodic genius of Ikonika), but I can still come up with riffs and melodies. Anyone can. Still, very few come up melodies as infectious, addictive, and -- um, for lack of a better word -- MELODIC, as Ikonika does. I mean, she's made at least 20 songs AS Ikonika now, so I think she really is starting to understand "oh, if I put this note next to THIS note, it'll sound good." you know? She's made her own language, but it's a damn infinitely-relistenable, addictive language. She has to understand music, at least to the degree of what sounds good and what doesn't. And while some notes might technically be "wrong" (though I don't really believe in the concept of "wrong" notes), it all sounds fucking good to me. I mean, all those counterpoints! I mean, she'll have like 7 melodies going on at the same time. Have you heard her song DICK HEAD BITCH (I think she stylized it "dckhdbtch" or something like that)? That is one of her most melodically insane songs, I bet there are 15 individual melodies in it, it's like a series of disconnected melodies. A loit of her songs, to me, seem to be about the drums, how off they are, but that song is all about those sweet melodies. Her best songs have a good mix of both. Like I said, she's also great at having these little elements that one doesn't really notice -- but by the end of the song, they've taken center stage. I noticed a lot of her songs ehd with ALL elements coming together -- she will kinda subtley "hint" at some kind of melodic break or sound halfway through the song, but those parts almost always take over everything by the end.

Anyway, I'm sure she doesn't even think about this stuff very much, or want to be analyzed. I just know she flat out motherfucking rules.

atsonicpark 01.15.2011 04:56 PM

also, thanks for the "Louder" song, it's apparently part of some comp called fabric 74, I believe, which has all sorts of great shit on it (mainly rusko, but there's some skream and some other heavyweights on it). I just cannot believe how much great music there is in this genre -- this genre has just flat-out fucking EXPLODED in the past few years. Such consistently great albums just coming from everywher.

atsonicpark 01.15.2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox


this is so badass. his song "FLOWER OF FLESH AND BLOOD" (named after the guinnea pig movie) is one of my favorite electronic songs ever. Listen to this shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObs0npspj0

atsonicpark 01.21.2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
CMYK by James Blake


yep, been jamming the shit out of this one. SOO GOOD.

SpaceCadetHayden 01.21.2011 11:32 PM

Anyone else here enjoying the Vicki Leekx mix tape by MIA? It redeemed her from MAYA in my opinion and features some awesome producers mixing her shit up.

SYRFox 01.28.2011 03:06 PM

Fabric 55 by Shackleton has to be one of the most perfect records I've ever heard. I can't stop listening to it at the moment.

You're beginning to come up.

SYRFox 03.04.2011 12:34 PM

Everyone get Fabric50 by Martyn and Rinse 11 by Oneman. The two best mixes of 2010 imo. Excellent dubstep showing all its diversity, ranging from techno influenced dubstep to uk funky to whatever. Perfect stuff.

SYRFox 03.05.2011 07:59 AM

Also, Exit Records Present Mosaic Vol 1 is one damn fine comp. I'm seriously into that Autonomic sound now. Probably the most interesting thing happening in d&b at the moment..

atsonicpark 03.05.2011 08:19 AM

fuck yeah, thanks fox. your post was the one I was waiitng for.

I got the new photek ep "AVALANCHe". It's great, but he's not doing drum and bass anymore! This ep is downright dubstep, at times, though it doesn't really sound like any other kind of electronic music I can easily identify. It still has his focus on technical details down, every little movement is fine-tuned, like a surgeon using a scalpel to make beats and melodies with. Great atmsopheres as usual. It's just a teaser for the eventual full length, which I'm suspecting will be the album of the year.

SYRFox 03.05.2011 09:06 AM

oh, i heard about that new dubsteppish photek ep but still haven't listened to it... will need to check it out, it's not the first time i hear it's awesome. thanks...
the record i'm most looking forward to at the moment is definitely egyptrixx's album, which should be out really soon (on monday, i think) on night slugs.. looks like it's gonna be one of the records of the year, judging from that awesome track on the night slugs compilation, the track with trust, and the mix he did on rinse in december... can't wait to hear it. he's playing lille in early april, i really hope i'll be able to see him (not sure as my exams are coming, too...)

this year is looking really great for dubstep and bass music in general... new albums coming from kode9 & the spaceape, faltydl, boxcutter, joker, hyetal, zomby, clueless, etc etc... can't wait to hear them all. also really eager to hear where that juke thing is heading to... have you heard those five new tracks zomby posted on his youtube channel, asp? they're awesome, somewhere between jungle and juke... check them out: http://www.youtube.com/user/wherewereuin92
judging from those tracks and the dubplates in oneman's and martyn's mixes i mentioned earlier in this thread (rumours & revolutions in particular), his new album is gonna be really great...
that africa hitech (mark pritchard + steve spacek) that's gonna be released on warp in may is looking like it's gonna be awesome... the first single from it melts juke with dubstep with dancehall with whatever and is totally killing me at the moment. http://warp.net/records/africa-hitec...in-the-streets

definitely sounds like a good year...

SYRFox 03.05.2011 09:10 AM

also, dour festival's line up is slowly released these days, and things are looking pretty huge for dubstep. I don't really care about doctor p and trolley snatcha, but the rest of the dubstep line up is mad so far:

digital soundboy soundsystem (feat. shy fx, breakage, b. traits w/ donaeo, youngman & stamina mc)
flying lotus
joy orbison
king midas sound
kode9 & the spaceape
lefto
martyn
night slugs (l-vis 1990 b2b bok bok)
pearson sound aka ramadanman
the gaslamp killer
true tiger label (sukh knight, scandalous unltd, stenchman, blue bear & mc chunky)
untold

damn.

also: the new fabriclive mix by pearson sound aka ramadanman is promising too, can't wait to get my hands on it

Pelle 03.05.2011 06:44 PM

Has anyone mentioned DatsiK ?? That's some good shit.

atsonicpark 03.05.2011 07:05 PM

fuck yeah, fox, your musical reccomendations always blow me away, and keep me busy for months. good man.

SYRFox 03.06.2011 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelle
Has anyone mentioned DatsiK ?? That's some good shit.

no man. i mean... datsik has some good tracks... swagga with excision is pretty fun... but you should really dig deeper into dubstep if you only know datsik, cause there is far, far, far better music in that style than a guy whose tracks mostly consist of various wobbles over a basic beat. really. basically, check out most of the bands that have been recommended in this thread... it's worth it. though in the end, obviously, it's all about taste...

Inhuman 03.06.2011 05:19 AM

Surprised in 8 pages Inspector Dubplate hasn't been mentioned. He was hardcore live, but I was half asleep during his set since it was 5:00am.

THE MUSTACHE MIXTAPE
http://soundcloud.com/inspectordubpl...stache-mixtape

SYRFox 03.06.2011 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman
Surprised in 8 pages Inspector Dubplate hasn't been mentioned. He was hardcore live, but I was half asleep during his set since it was 5:00am.

THE MUSTACHE MIXTAPE
http://soundcloud.com/inspectordubpl...stache-mixtape


just as datsik actually, i'm not too into that kind of too-filthy midrange wobble dubstep... it can be super fun live, and i like some tunes (sweet shop by doctor p, woo boost by rusko, swagga by excision & datsik), but usually it bores me quite quickly. I'm usually more into deeper dubstep... though i think there's a place for both.

when it comes to insane wobblers, coki is untouchable, i believe. that is because his tracks do not sound like he wants to do "the most filthy thing ever, dirtier than fingering yr sister" whatever, they sound totally unhealthy.
horrid henry for instance is probably one of the most terrific tunes i've ever heard. sounds like someone getting tortured or something. completely mad.

SYRFox 03.06.2011 05:49 AM

skream - wibbler is another fantastic heavy wobbling track. kills me everytime.

Pelle 03.06.2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox
no man. i mean... datsik has some good tracks... swagga with excision is pretty fun... but you should really dig deeper into dubstep if you only know datsik, cause there is far, far, far better music in that style than a guy whose tracks mostly consist of various wobbles over a basic beat. really. basically, check out most of the bands that have been recommended in this thread... it's worth it. though in the end, obviously, it's all about taste...


Yeah I know more bands than datsik, haha. Ive heard of most of them that are mentioned in the thread already.
Ofcourse there are way better stuff than just him yeah, but I recommended it since I like it pretty simple aswell. :rolleyes:

SYRFox 03.10.2011 10:40 AM

http://soundcloud.com/stholdings/ins...solution-653-1
19 minutes sampler of Instra:Mental's forthcoming album, Resolution 653. Great stuff.

SYRFox 03.12.2011 08:43 AM

Morgan Zarate - Hookid
this track is fucking sick

Genteel Death 03.12.2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
i found this blog with bbc radio 1 essential mixes and there are many dubstep ones.

http://core.thomaslaupstad.com/category/essential-mix/

Thanx sweetie.

SYRFox 03.13.2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefeli
i found this blog with bbc radio 1 essential mixes and there are many dubstep ones.

http://core.thomaslaupstad.com/category/essential-mix/

thanks! gotta check that essential mix kode9 made last week, awesome stuff. ranges from dubstep to uk funky to juke/footwork to various other things, tight mixing. highly recommended; he plays some new tracks off his forthcoming album too which sound awesome.

atsonicpark 03.13.2011 02:48 PM

DUDE

fox

i may have mentioned it in another thread, who knows

but it's re-blowing my mind

every time i listen to it, it blows my mind

get Multistability by MARK FELL

it's not dubstep perse. i'm not sure what genre it'd be in.

the closest thing i can honestly compare it to is something like autechre, or if ryoji ikeda didn't exclusive work with high pitched sounds haha.

every song kinda sounds like a beat/section being stretched in some weird way, like a rubber band that keeps snapping back. but what really is mindblowing is when you pay attention to what's going inside the "riubber band". beats that change/EVOLVE in a very very autechre ish fashion, repetetive but ALWAYS changing... it's a masterpiece of beats that are constantly attacking the speakers. it's so fucking addicting. wow.

SYRFox 03.13.2011 03:01 PM

sounds awesome! getting this now, thanks a lot.
isn't mark fell a member of SND? or am i mixing things up? anyway, i love snd.

sounds like what i needed, too... i'm into a lot of different things lately.

SYRFox 03.13.2011 03:56 PM

also, adam, i guess you have already listened to that "fünf" compilation ostgut ton put out last year, but if you did not, check it out. one of the most impressive compilations i've ever heard... nihilistic techno at its best. industrial beats, massive bass, little to no melody, sloooow progression. terrific, and dark.

loubarret 03.14.2011 07:46 AM

Egyptrixx's album is great overall, not over the whole lenght but it makes for a amazing record


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